Why do people commit crimes?

her209

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Surely the criminal sees the risk of gain vs loss is greater. Or would you say that they don't really comprehend the risk?
 

Mo0o

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Not necessarily, if I was piss poor and I lived in a neighborhood where the police was stretched thing already, Id think about stealing. And as far as serial killers go, they're just insane and cant think clearly. In their demented minds the people they killed deserve to die.
 

CrackRabbit

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Not necessarily, if I was piss poor and I lived in a neighborhood where the police was stretched thing already, Id think about stealing. And as far as serial killers go, they're just insane and cant think clearly. In their demented minds the people they killed deserve to die.

That qualifies as desperation. I didnt think of insanity though..
 

her209

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Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
That qualifies as desperation. I didnt think of insanity though..
So would you say anyone who is insane is a criminal?

On another note, what about white collar crimes?
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
That qualifies as desperation. I didnt think of insanity though..
So would you say anyone who is insane is a criminal?

On another note, what about white collar crimes?

Um.. the people of enron were able to hire expensive lawyers and are now enjoy life in min security prison w/o walls. White colllar crime pays :thumbsup:
 

CrackRabbit

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No not everyone who is "insane" is criminal.
Im thinking of a response for the white collar crime
 

yobarman

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You're a product of your own enviorment. If you grow up in a neighborhood that's riddled with violence and poverty, then thats all you know. The tempation to rob, steal, and sell drugs is too great knowing that you'll make more money than anyone you know working a legitimate job.

That's only speaking for people in ghettos and lower class areas of America. Everyday people that don't need to commit crimes? I guess for the rush and excitment. My friend is a clepto and will always steal a candybar or mach3 or something from a supermarket cause in the middle class neighborhood we live in, he knows he won't get caught. and if he did he could talk his way out of it. He's not too well off so he steals when he can. I guess then it's a mix of nessessity and adrenaline. I would to, but I haven't stolen since I got caught in like 5th grade lol.

Or are you talking about those serial killers? That's a whole different ballgame altogether.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Um.. the people of enron were able to hire expensive lawyers and are now enjoy life in min security prison w/o walls. White colllar crime pays :thumbsup:
So would you say that that goes back to the gain vs loss thing?

What would you say the difference is between stealing millions of dollars through embezzlement versus bank robbery?

 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Um.. the people of enron were able to hire expensive lawyers and are now enjoy life in min security prison w/o walls. White colllar crime pays :thumbsup:
So would you say that that goes back to the gain vs loss thing?

What would you say the difference is between stealing millions of dollars through embezzlement versus bank robbery?

You're more likely to be caught in a bank robbery.

It's like cheating in a test, if you take little peaks at someone else's test, you're not so likely to be caught. if you stood up took out a scanner to copy his test, that would be a little more risky.
 

Falloutboy

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people who get caught stealing are ethier greedy or stupid. the truley smart theves you never here about because thier smart enough to comeup with a scame use it once or twice and move on to the next
 

z0mb13

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There are lots of different reasons

jealousy, anger, sadness, hate, crazyness, etc etc

 

her209

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
You're more likely to be caught in a bank robbery.

It's like cheating in a test, if you take little peaks at someone else's test, you're not so likely to be caught. if you stood up took out a scanner to copy his test, that would be a little more risky.
So would you say its fair to give both cheaters an F when caught?
 

Biggerhammer

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They perceive the rewards as outweighing the risks. In most cases, the risks will catch up with any criminal who repeats his or her crimes, but the perception is the important part here.

Or, they don't care- the rewards are so important that the risks are irrelevant. The rewards might be revenge, the correction of perceived injustice (ie minority mugging majority), or just instant gratification.
 

Spamela

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many years ago i worked with a few ex-felons.
mainly they got drunk or high, did stupid things, & got caught.

there wasn't any rational calculation of risk, IOW.