Why do most the people prefer their statesmen to be kings instead of servants?

Anarchist420

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I don't get why we keep electing people to use our money to fund things like the Secret Service, and huge salaries for people who are supposed to be civil servants, especially since they're the ones making the law not us.

So basically, I'm asking: Why do some people like to spend their money making other people above the law?

Obama doesn't deserve anymore protection from possible murderers than anyone else does. If anything, he deserves less since he's a war criminal and a thief.

People actually voting for things like the Secret Service is what makes me think autocratic rule is 8 to 9 times out of ten better than a democracy (exceptions include Jefferson, Jackson, Cleveland, Warren G Harding and Coolidge about 9 elections out of 55), especially considering that Hitler and FDR were democratically elected (granted, Hitler didn't achieve a majority, but he still won a plurality). I would rather have Emperor Hirohito every day of the week than either one of them and I'd probably rather have Adolf Hitler than FDR who wasn't quite as democratically elected as FDR (I say not as democratically elected because FDR won a majority four times, Adolph Hitler a plurality once).

EDIT: No, I'm not an anti-semite. Keep in mind, anyone who likes FDR (in fact, I don't like Hitler, I just think he was less evil than FDR) could be considered racist against people of Japanese descent.
 
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nageov3t

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the entire country wouldn't grind to a standstill if you were kidnapped and held for ransom.
 

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I don't get why we keep electing people to use our money to fund things like the Secret Service, and huge salaries for people who are supposed to be civil servants, especially since they're the ones making the law not us.

So basically, I'm asking: Why do some people like to spend their money making other people above the law?

Obama doesn't deserve anymore protection from possible murderers than anyone else does. If anything, he deserves less since he's a war criminal and a thief.

People actually voting for things like the Secret Service is what makes me think autocratic rule is 8 to 9 times out of ten better than a democracy (exceptions include Jefferson, Jackson, Cleveland, Warren G Harding and Coolidge about 9 elections out of 55), especially considering that Hitler and FDR were democratically elected (granted, Hitler didn't achieve a majority, but he still won a plurality). I would rather have Emperor Hirohito every day of the week than either one of them and I'd probably rather have Adolf Hitler than FDR who wasn't quite as democratically elected as FDR (I say not as democratically elected because FDR won a majority four times, Adolph Hitler a plurality once).

EDIT: No, I'm not an anti-semite. Keep in mind, anyone who likes FDR (in fact, I don't like Hitler, I just think he was less evil than FDR) could be considered racist against people of Japanese descent.

sounds like in a veiled and very carefylly worded way that you are saying that it would be OK with you if Obama was assasi........

People like you are not what makes our country great...it`s people who think like you who drag down our country!!
 

nageov3t

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I feel like Anarchist420 threads are the one time when all of P&N comes together and agrees on something.
 

Anarchist420

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the entire country wouldn't grind to a standstill if you were kidnapped and held for ransom.
Um, more people have an unfavorable impression of Obama than they do of me. I can't (and wouldn't) bankrupt the country and swindle future generations. I wouldn't go around ordering assassinations of possibly innocent people and I wouldn't ignore the fact that too damn many bombing errors are being made in Afghanistan just so that we can go further into bankruptcy. I wouldn't be a corporatist who lies their ass off about caring about the common man and the poor.

I could go on, but I'm sure that's enough to make you realize you were wrong. No offense or anything.
 

Deeko

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granted, Hitler didn't achieve a majority, but he still won a plurality

Not only did Hitler not win a majority, he did not win the election. He lost - substantially - both times. He was appointed Chancellor by the elected President, and then the German legislature voted to give him supreme power. I tire of seeing people wrongfully claim Hitler was elected.
 

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I don't get why we keep electing people to use our money to fund things like the Secret Service, and huge salaries for people who are supposed to be civil servants, especially since they're the ones making the law not us.

So basically, I'm asking: Why do some people like to spend their money making other people above the law?

Obama doesn't deserve anymore protection from possible murderers than anyone else does. If anything, he deserves less since he's a war criminal and a thief.

People actually voting for things like the Secret Service is what makes me think autocratic rule is 8 to 9 times out of ten better than a democracy (exceptions include Jefferson, Jackson, Cleveland, Warren G Harding and Coolidge about 9 elections out of 55), especially considering that Hitler and FDR were democratically elected (granted, Hitler didn't achieve a majority, but he still won a plurality). I would rather have Emperor Hirohito every day of the week than either one of them and I'd probably rather have Adolf Hitler than FDR who wasn't quite as democratically elected as FDR (I say not as democratically elected because FDR won a majority four times, Adolph Hitler a plurality once).

EDIT: No, I'm not an anti-semite. Keep in mind, anyone who likes FDR (in fact, I don't like Hitler, I just think he was less evil than FDR) could be considered racist against people of Japanese descent.

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nageov3t

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Um, more people have an unfavorable impression of Obama than they do of me. I can't (and wouldn't) bankrupt the country and swindle future generations. I wouldn't go around ordering assassinations of possibly innocent people and I wouldn't ignore the fact that too damn many bombing errors are being made in Afghanistan just so that we can go further into bankruptcy. I wouldn't be a corporatist who lies their ass off about caring about the common man and the poor.

I could go on, but I'm sure that's enough to make you realize you were wrong. No offense or anything.
so, you're not saying that the secret service is a waste of money, you're saying that you want Obama to be killed?
 

dank69

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Um, more people have an unfavorable impression of Obama than they do of me. I can't (and wouldn't) bankrupt the country and swindle future generations. I wouldn't go around ordering assassinations of possibly innocent people and I wouldn't ignore the fact that too damn many bombing errors are being made in Afghanistan just so that we can go further into bankruptcy. I wouldn't be a corporatist who lies their ass off about caring about the common man and the poor.

I could go on, but I'm sure that's enough to make you realize you were wrong. No offense or anything.
That's only because they don't know you yet. Take this board for example. Half the people here have an unfavorable impression of Obama, but all of us have an unfavorable impression of you. No offense or anything.
 

nick1985

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That's only because they don't know you yet. Take this board for example. Half the people here have an unfavorable impression of Obama, but all of us have an unfavorable impression of you. No offense or anything.

lol
 

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This thread is good!

I feel like Anarchist420 threads are the one time when all of P&N comes together and agrees on something.

I can think of another member member like this, except he has rabies, that this is true of as well. So glad his ban is over.
 

Anarchist420

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so, you're not saying that the secret service is a waste of money, you're saying that you want Obama to be killed?
Um, no, the SS is a waste of money, and it's not fair that anyone gets and that people are forced to pay for it.

I don't care whether Obama's killed, I just want him to leave myself and others who value liberty alone.
 
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Um, no, the SS is a waste of money, and it's not fair that anyone gets and that people are forced to pay for it.

I don't care whether Obama's killed, I just want him to leave myself and others who value liberty alone.

How many times did you have to smack your face against a brick to become this dumb? Or were you just always this dumb?
 

Kirby

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Um, no, the SS is a waste of money, and it's not fair that anyone gets and that people are forced to pay for it.

I don't care whether Obama's killed, I just want him to leave myself and others who value liberty alone.

Don't you see a problem if the President is killed daily?
 

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I almost side with 420 on this one. They deserve no more protection than the rest of us, but the position deserves it and requires it. Free jets and free housing and free food for life and all that stuff, no! They're servants. They already get paid a ton. They get protection until their office terminates. That's how it's supposed to be.
 

hal2kilo

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Um, more people have an unfavorable impression of Obama than they do of me. I can't (and wouldn't) bankrupt the country and swindle future generations. I wouldn't go around ordering assassinations of possibly innocent people and I wouldn't ignore the fact that too damn many bombing errors are being made in Afghanistan just so that we can go further into bankruptcy. I wouldn't be a corporatist who lies their ass off about caring about the common man and the poor.

I could go on, but I'm sure that's enough to make you realize you were wrong. No offense or anything.

Ok you got it rolling, now take another hit, then another shot...............Canonball!
 

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Anarchist420

Your rant against the Secret Service marks you as a buffoon. Just saying, in case others comments went over your head.