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why do men and women like what they like?
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DougK62
Diamond Member
Of course I date girls that *I* find attractive, but the truth is that society has a huge influence on people about who they feel attracted to. Just look at all the female models out there. The "in" thing is to be really skinny with small boobs, and a LOT of guys are attracted to this shape. That's not an instinctual attraction. Human instinct says that a man should be attracted to a woman with wide hips and large breasts.
I know what I'm saying isn't politically correct, but it is true. I'm not religious at all, either. I'm not saying that people should hate gay people, I'm simply stating that gay people have a problem that they were born with. They were born with a malfunctioning sex drive. Instead of being attracted to the opposite sex that they can breed with, their attraction lies in the same sex.
It's a shame, actually, because not many people would choose to go through life being hated.
Schadenfroh
Elite Member
fixed
:thumbsup: That is my take on it precisely. Technically, it's a defect that occurs somehow in utero (whether via genetic or environmental means or some combination) whereby a person's sexual instinct does not progress far enough past the midline between male attraction and female attraction.
But does that mean gay people should be discriminated against, hated, told they're going to hell, or otherwise marginalized? By no means. Just because it's not visible like quadriplegia or black skin doesn't mean it should not be accepted and embraced like any other trait that makes humans differ from the aryan "ideal".
But techically it is a defect because sexuality's purpose is to propagate the species. It feels good so that we will want to do it frequently.
It is OK to be defective... we all are in some way or another (except of course for models in magazines). :roll:
l2c
Some people break the mold: Photographic Proof
otispunkmeyer
Lifer
hahahhahha
oh dear thats just wrong
LOL, no. Sorry that was a bad example. I simply meant that it is a variation in the human species just as homosexuality is.
By the way, I use the word defect with none of its negative connotations... basically another word for variation.
And to head off any misunderstanding, I do not consider aryan to be ideal (which is why I put it in quotes)... only that Western society has, in the past, considered it to be so.
My point is that we all vary from whatever "norms" we deem to be so in our society. These differences are part of what makes life so great.
And sorry for helping hijack the thread. Carry on...
l2c
Schadenfroh
Elite Member
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Cerb
Elite Member
Physical attraction (lust) is purely based on reproduction.
Part is how we are taught, but also, we are the product of at least tens of thousands of years, possibly hundreds of thousands, or millions, of years of breeding. Also, for distrobution of genetic traits, it is likely that we are genetically more likely to have certain tastes (and possibly randomly made so).
Note on the homosexual bits brought into the thread: do homosexual men and women have similar standards to their heterosexual counterparts in a given culture when it comes to the body? If so, then it is still based on the ideas of reproducing and raising children, even if flipped around. I don't have any info as to whether that is true or not, though, and generally don't ask such things 🙂.
Part is how we are taught, but also, we are the product of at least tens of thousands of years, possibly hundreds of thousands, or millions, of years of breeding. Also, for distrobution of genetic traits, it is likely that we are genetically more likely to have certain tastes (and possibly randomly made so).
Note on the homosexual bits brought into the thread: do homosexual men and women have similar standards to their heterosexual counterparts in a given culture when it comes to the body? If so, then it is still based on the ideas of reproducing and raising children, even if flipped around. I don't have any info as to whether that is true or not, though, and generally don't ask such things 🙂.
There was a show on TLC some years back (when it was actually "The Learning Channel" that featured a very in-depth study done on beauty. It involved studies of multiple cultures on every continent, including tribal/island races and cultures without media access. They showed a variety of male and female forms of indistinct national origin/race. In the vast majority of those polled, the full-but-healthy figures were considered the most sexually desirable. The percentages were even across the board, including the cultures where traits such as fatness, thinness, etc were considered beauty.
Oftentimes, popular beauty reflects the values of society. Youth and rarity dominates the current "beauty" market for us, now; this is reflected in the models we see. In some areas, wealth is beauty, and fatness (i.e. having so much money you can afford to overeat) is "beautiful" in other areas. In times past, pale skin reflected that one was above the need to work outdoors in strenuous manual labor. Darker skin is in now. However, "classical beauty" has always been sexually desirable; it never goes out of style, though it may be suppressed by the societal norms.
This would indicate that instinct does have a large impact on our perception of beauty, or at least in the appearance of form. The details of beauty, eyes, ears, mouth and such, are a different matter, very personal, and not studied by the mentioned show...
Oftentimes, popular beauty reflects the values of society. Youth and rarity dominates the current "beauty" market for us, now; this is reflected in the models we see. In some areas, wealth is beauty, and fatness (i.e. having so much money you can afford to overeat) is "beautiful" in other areas. In times past, pale skin reflected that one was above the need to work outdoors in strenuous manual labor. Darker skin is in now. However, "classical beauty" has always been sexually desirable; it never goes out of style, though it may be suppressed by the societal norms.
This would indicate that instinct does have a large impact on our perception of beauty, or at least in the appearance of form. The details of beauty, eyes, ears, mouth and such, are a different matter, very personal, and not studied by the mentioned show...
There's no evidence stating that states otherwise, either. We haven't found the cause of it, but we're looking. There is a very good chance that they were born with it, and we just haven't yet found the gene that determines sexual preference. And there is major opposition to efforts to find that gene, too. Some people prefer to be left in the dark because they are afraid of the results.
cavemanmoron
Lifer
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