why do japanese cars have better resale value?

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: zoiks

Originally posted by: Cheezeit

Originally posted by: zoiks
Mostly hype nowadays.

not really

Yes really.

Not really, i've had domestics before and they've been nothing but a money pit. Japanese cars have never given me trouble.

I had the opposite experience...my wife's Corolla was a money pit. My Cavalier was a tank.

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: Babbles
The reality of higher quality.

Fixed that for ya. American cars are JUNK, by and large. Couple that with the fact that gas is skyrocketing past $3 a gallon and we've *still* got Ford and GM on the air advertising "Our biggest SUV yet!!!" and you wonder why so many people cringe at the thought of an American branded car (which is just as likely to be built in Mexico or Canada, incidentally) as compared to Japanese cars.

American car companies are making the same mistakes today as they did in the 70's: selling gas-sucking pigmobiles while gas prices skyrocket and people go broke just trying to drive to work and back. If that shows you their intelligence, by God let them fall, burn and go belly up. It's what they deserve.

Jason

First off, Ford stopped making that big ass Expedition and SUV sales have been falling. Furthermore Ford did release a hybrid SUV vehicle. Couple that with your clueless statement about gasoline "skyrocketing to past $3 a gallon" when we still have some of the cheapest gas anywhere in the western world.
So frankly with just that you have proven you have no clue what you are talking about.

Furthermore new "American" cars (hard to really define what is or isn't "American" nowadays) are not gas sucking cars, short of buying some car for the intent of sucking up gas (e.g Corvette). My four year old Grand Prix gets ~25 mpg on average, and that's not bad for having a beefy V6 - in fact better than my brothers V6 Accord of the same year.
All of the recent "domestics" have good, if not great, gas mileage.
It is a perception that all "domestic" cars are gas guzzling vehicles, and fools like you fall for it every time.

Are all "domestic" cars great?
Hell no.
Personally I want a G35 as my next vehicle and that sure as heck isn't a "domestic" vehicle.
However my point is those cars are not anywhere near as bad as so many half-brained twits make them out to be.

 

[Cattlegod]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: zoiks

Originally posted by: Cheezeit

Originally posted by: zoiks
Mostly hype nowadays.

not really

Yes really.

Not really, i've had domestics before and they've been nothing but a money pit. Japanese cars have never given me trouble.

yes really

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: Babbles
The reality of higher quality.

Fixed that for ya. American cars are JUNK, by and large. Couple that with the fact that gas is skyrocketing past $3 a gallon and we've *still* got Ford and GM on the air advertising "Our biggest SUV yet!!!" and you wonder why so many people cringe at the thought of an American branded car (which is just as likely to be built in Mexico or Canada, incidentally) as compared to Japanese cars.

American car companies are making the same mistakes today as they did in the 70's: selling gas-sucking pigmobiles while gas prices skyrocket and people go broke just trying to drive to work and back. If that shows you their intelligence, by God let them fall, burn and go belly up. It's what they deserve.

Jason

I'm not going to dispute that GM's management and marketing teams are horrible, but their small cars, especially the Cobalt are looking really good. My old 2002 Cavalier could easily go 400 miles (at 85mph) on a 13 gallon tank of gas. I never had a problem with it. The Cobalt is the same thing, except with an overall better interior. The Malibu is a boring generic sedan, just as boring and generic as the Camry or Accord and it costs less.

Even my Saturn Ion Redline, which is GM's first attempt at a supercharged 4 cylinder, has been solid.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Babbles
The perception of higher quality.

wishful. interior quality design/materials quality of honda/toyota alone beat domestic hands down. overall engineering...americans cars just tend to feel cheap

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Babbles
The perception of higher quality.

wishful. interior quality design/materials quality of honda/toyota alone beat domestic hands down. overall engineering...americans cars just tend to feel cheap

I've ridden in and driven many Japanese cars... I've never seen this purported superiority. Plastic is plastic.

 

[newParadigm]

cause they last longer? Duh...

 

[newParadigm]

cause they last longer? Duh...

 

[StarTech]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: zoiks

Originally posted by: Cheezeit

Originally posted by: zoiks
Mostly hype nowadays.

not really

Yes really.

Not really, i've had domestics before and they've been nothing but a money pit. Japanese cars have never given me trouble.

Same here. In my life I have had Ford, GM, Toyota(s), Mazda and Nissan. I do not see a reason to ever get a Ford or GM ever again.

 

[eldorado99]

Many people think I'm crazy, but my 100% Detroit 1970 Cadillac is my daily driver. Its 35 years old and solid as a tank, it doesn't let me down. Although I guess I can't speak for newer domestics, older ones kick a$$.

 

[StarTech]

Originally posted by: Babbles
The perception of higher quality.

Exactly. Perception derived from less trips to the shop.

 

[Aftermath]

I'll do the same thing I always do in threads like this, mention my experience so far.

Key domestic example:
1991 Mercury Grand Marquis.
Traded it off with ~140k miles for $500. It was on its second alternator, timing chain, water pump, and transmission. It needed an engine rebuild. The radio/cassette deck had been removed due to a wiring short that drained the battery unless I disconnected it whenever I left the car off. The drivers side power window wouldn't roll down any more because of some broken part.

Key imported example:
1996 Toyota Avalon.
Traded it off with ~167k miles on it for about $2,500. Everything inside still worked and it was still on all of its original parts (except for normal wear and tear stuff like brake pads). The only problem it had was a short in the starter that would cause it to take a few tries to get it to turn over some mornings.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: Babbles
The reality of higher quality.

Fixed that for ya. American cars are JUNK, by and large. Couple that with the fact that gas is skyrocketing past $3 a gallon and we've *still* got Ford and GM on the air advertising "Our biggest SUV yet!!!" and you wonder why so many people cringe at the thought of an American branded car (which is just as likely to be built in Mexico or Canada, incidentally) as compared to Japanese cars.

American car companies are making the same mistakes today as they did in the 70's: selling gas-sucking pigmobiles while gas prices skyrocket and people go broke just trying to drive to work and back. If that shows you their intelligence, by God let them fall, burn and go belly up. It's what they deserve.

Jason

Funny. My 10 year old, V8 (280 hp) Lincoln gets 26 mpg and hasn't had any non-routine maintenance in 100,000 miles. My father's three Explorers each went 150,000 miles or more before we sold them, and the V8 Explorer got 22 mpg on the freeway, same as his new Honda Pilot except that the Explorer could tow out boat much more easily and the fit and finish on the interior was better. (I'm very unimpressed with the Pilot's interior, the fit and finish on my first car, an '88 Accord, was worlds better than on the Pilot, Honda dropped the ball somewhere.)

The Pilot also has been into the dealer for a recall on the transmission already. That's one more recall than all of the Explorers and my Lincoln put together.

ZV