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they are about to make a move.. watch..
and they can't look like the aggressor to the global community..
and they can't look like the aggressor to the global community..
why do i feel like Israel may have set this whole thing in action?
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vids like this one are starting to make alot more sense now..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YlVuOeepCo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YlVuOeepCo
Are you saying Israel made large segments of the Islamic world violently intolerant to free speech? How did they do that?
schneiderguy
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Israel funded the initial protests to increase anti-Muslim sentiment in the US.
Then the rest of the Muslims took it and ran with it because they're crazy.
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Israel.. haven't you been watching netanyaho basically calling the usa pussies for not vowing to back them...
he's saying "the international community says wait wait wait" and i say "wait for what"
this is an incredibly tight situation for israel.. either they win the us people's backing (by causing anti us riots/protests all over the islamic world)
or, they bully our government into backing them (obama is avoiding a sit down with them because of this)
or.. what they don't want, they have to make a move on Iran alone.. which could prove detrimental to them.
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An interesting conspiracy theory with some surface validity, but I don't believe Israel is behind that explosive film that PO'd so many Mulims.
But raw human emotion and public emotional reation is always effective.
Look at the US reaction to 911, as maybe a hard core of maybe 100 Muslim terrorist committed the deed, and suddenly 911 became the collective sin of 1.45 billion Muslims
in American eyes.
Or we can also note which Muslims nations reacted most violently is confined to only a small set of Muslim nations. As Lybia is still recovering from a long civil war, with many muslim reactionaries that are still contenting for power acted swiftly and maybe with preplanned violence. Yet, still the majority of Lybians elected an American trained moderate as their PM. Or we can cite Yemen and Somalia, never stable, as an expected hot bed of American dislike to react as they did. As for Egypt, with a large radical right Salifts block to predictably react, but a moderate in Morsy has quickly restored order.
Other than that, by in large, the film has had made minimum impacts in terms of provoking actual mob violence in Muslim countries.
But raw human emotion and public emotional reation is always effective.
Look at the US reaction to 911, as maybe a hard core of maybe 100 Muslim terrorist committed the deed, and suddenly 911 became the collective sin of 1.45 billion Muslims
in American eyes.
Or we can also note which Muslims nations reacted most violently is confined to only a small set of Muslim nations. As Lybia is still recovering from a long civil war, with many muslim reactionaries that are still contenting for power acted swiftly and maybe with preplanned violence. Yet, still the majority of Lybians elected an American trained moderate as their PM. Or we can cite Yemen and Somalia, never stable, as an expected hot bed of American dislike to react as they did. As for Egypt, with a large radical right Salifts block to predictably react, but a moderate in Morsy has quickly restored order.
Other than that, by in large, the film has had made minimum impacts in terms of provoking actual mob violence in Muslim countries.
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Israel does not want to wipe anyone off the map. They want to stop their neighbors from obtaining nuclear weapons, for fear of those weapons being used in a religious attack.
MAD (mutually assured destruction) does not work if one of the parties is truely mad...when you mix religion into politics at this level, you have the possibility of a religious war being waged with the power of a government behind it. In a religious war, death is not a big deal...so if the government possesses nuclear weapons...well, you can see Israel's fear.
MAD (mutually assured destruction) does not work if one of the parties is truely mad...when you mix religion into politics at this level, you have the possibility of a religious war being waged with the power of a government behind it. In a religious war, death is not a big deal...so if the government possesses nuclear weapons...well, you can see Israel's fear.
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First 9/11, then the shootings in that theater and now this, us Jews are sneaky bastards.
I mean, first they try to blame Jews because a Jew made the film, when that fails you really have to come up with something else because come on, it has to be the Jews fault, somehow.
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JohnOfSheffield
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Yeah, the revolutions were NOT because people were fed up with dictatorship, it was the JEWS again.
Perhaps it was the Zionist scum that drove you to chew up that patch that nearly killed you and seemingly destroyed what little was left of your intellect?
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Better than me, that's for sure.
Bagels with ham on them makes me a naughty Jew.
They would never have to "go it alone" due to our energy policy. Israel knows this quite well I am sure.
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also just wanted to add to sheffield...
if it's not the jews, then why do they keep coming up... EVERYWHERE?
is the world really that mad at jews? seems like it.. now tell me why?
if it's not the jews, then why do they keep coming up... EVERYWHERE?
is the world really that mad at jews? seems like it.. now tell me why?
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Better than me, that's for sure.
Bagels with ham on them makes me a naughty Jew.
When I was a pup I had come from the poor inner city. I went to a school that had rather daunting requirements, but I qualfied. I poor white trash kid. Didn't matter how god I was. In fact it made things worse. I did make a friend though who was Jewish and being from a cultural backwater I really didn't understand what that meant, but it didn't matter to me anyway. So my friends mother insisted he bring me for lunch, but I figured I'd be the animal on display. Eventually I gave in and for reasons I can't quite explain the whole family seemed to like me and yet I didn't feel like a charity case. Well as I'm sure you know the commandment jewish mothers and grandmothers give is "eat".
Well how could I refuse? They were kind and interesting. The surviving grandparents had been tattooed and you know what that meant, but they weren't broken people. In fact they were as full of life as anyone. It became like a second family and I learned much wisdom from them.
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In chess sometimes you have to sacrifice a piece as part of your strategy in order to win the game.
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Well as I'm sure you know the commandment jewish mothers and grandmothers give is "eat".
We have never lacked for food...may we never lack for food for His Great Name's sake.
If you leave a Jewish home or gathering hungry (unless it is a fast day), you are doing it wrong.
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