Why do coworkers at a company feel like they should be higher paid than...

[her209]

someone that just started in the same level position as said coworker? What's the/their problem?

 

[Kelvrick]

Experience. Actual productivity aside, nobody is going to come in and be as familiar with the processes at a certain company than someone who was already there.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Depends on the job. If the job requires skill and knowledge, I'd be pissed if I'd been there a year or more and the new hire got paid the same.

 

[her209]

Experience. Actual productivity aside, nobody is going to come in and be as familiar with the processes at a certain company than someone who was already there.

But the problem with experience is that anyone can claim they have it at something. Until there's a subjective test, its really meaningless.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

But the problem with experience is that anyone can claim they have it at something. Until there's a subjective test, its really meaningless.

You're being exceptionally obtuse, tell us the details of the situation.

 

[arcenite]

You're being exceptionally obtuse, tell us the details of the situation.

Definitely depends on the situation. For example, I'd willingly give up more tax money to support a president who had no prior politician experience.

 

[sixone]

Definitely depends on the situation. For example, I'd willingly give up more tax money to support a president who had no prior politician experience.

You already are.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Definitely depends on the situation. For example, I'd willingly give up more tax money to support a president who had no prior politician experience.

I understand the sentiment but, that would be foolish like creating a 5 star general with no prior military experience.

 

[Kelvrick]

But the problem with experience is that anyone can claim they have it at something. Until there's a subjective test, its really meaningless.

Really, so someone who just started somehow has experience with exactly the way its done at their new company?

Even if they worked at a previous company that used the exact same toolkit and software packages, there will be some learning curve with the way this company does things. Even down to how your manager/supervisor wants things done. Take an exact employee and giving them an additional year's experience with that company's systems and there is no way you can say they won't be any more productive.

EDIT: How do you even know the person who just started is even capable?

At my current job, I will gladly take someone with less overall experience in this type of job but more experience with my specific client. Its so much easier when someone already knows why something works a certain way rather than having to explain to them or have them figure it out.

Say I'm a manager and I have 2 choices. Do I want to pay 50k to someone from another company with what seems to have the same qualifications and might turn out to be a dud or pay someone 55k who already knows what they're doing and how I want them to do it and I know what to expect from them. I've probably also built a working relationship with them. Tough choice.

 

[vi edit]

There's a reason why people employer hop to increase salary. This is a big part of that.

 

[arcenite]

You already are.

Obama was a Senator, no?

 

[smitbret]

The idea is a throwback to the good ol' Union days when you got a raise every year, regardless of actual productivity. A steel worker that had been there 35 years got paid twice as much as the new guy, even though he was half as productive.

 

[arcenite]

I understand the sentiment but, that would be foolish like creating a 5 star general with no prior military experience.

Well 5 stars are appointed, so, poor analogy.

Secondly, a 5 star can do whatever he wants. The president cannot.

 

[her209]

You're being exceptionally obtuse, tell us the details of the situation.

Without being too specific, let's say the person with "less" experience is having to fix all the problems that the coworker is having a difficult time solving.

 

[arcenite]

Without being too specific, let's say the person with "less" experience is having to fix all the problems that the coworker is having a difficult time solving.

Do something about it.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Well 5 stars are appointed, so, poor analogy.

Secondly, a 5 star can do whatever he wants. The president cannot.

You've never served have you?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Without being too specific, let's say the person with "less" experience is having to fix all the problems that the coworker is having a difficult time solving.

Then the new person has demonstrably greater skill or knowledge and the coworker can suck it up.

 

[her209]

Do something about it.

Like pretend to not know the answer when they ask?

 

[Bignate603]

But the problem with experience is that anyone can claim they have it at something. Until there's a subjective test, its really meaningless.

If you work with someone you can tell how much experience they have and how much it helps. For a person that's new there should be a vetting process to determine if they have the experience they're claiming.

This isn't rocket science.

 

[her209]

If you work with someone you can tell how much experience they have and how much it helps. For a person that's new there should be a vetting process to determine if they have the experience they're claiming.

This isn't rocket science.

For someone new, yes. But for someone who is already there, no.

 

[arcenite]

You've never served have you?

I'm sorry, are you a 5 star general that I need to know about?

 

[arcenite]

Like pretend to not know the answer when they ask?

No. Like, ask for a raise or find another job.

 

[Bignate603]

For someone new, yes. But for someone who is already there, no.

You're not making any sense. If the person that's already there doesn't have the experience it will show in their work. The company has had a chance to see how they work so they have a better idea how much they're worth. Hiring someone new is more of a risk because there are more unknowns.

 

[her209]

No. Like, ask for a raise or find another job.

Well, the person just got hired so asking for a raise or jumping ship would be too soon.

 

[arcenite]

Well, the person just got hired so asking for a raise or jumping ship would be too soon.

So wait a minute. Are you saying the NEW person is the one who is paid LESS but knows MORE?