Why do alot of you like muscle cars?

[Stallion]

As a matter of fact you can go autocrossing in a muscle car. Car craft magazine just built up a 70 chevelle with a 502ci engine and over 500 horse and took it auto crossing. The car has been lowered and has all the suspension goodies and they did quite well.

and there is a guy named Dan Gottleib(sp) who built a 69 camaro called big red that held the fastest over all speed in the Nevada silver state classic road race. It averaged over 200mph for 90 miles. so to say a muscle car can't handle like an import isn't really a fact. It just depends on how deep your pockets are.

 

[Phunktion]

<< did ya ever take one of them physics classes? huh
you look at old race cars they were made as hard as possible and there were so many more deaths in them b/c of it ....thats why cars today have crumple zones and save more lives

u take a old steel car slam it into a concrete wall and ill take my car slam it in to the same wall and we'll see who walks away.... >>



He wasn't talking about hitting brick walls he was talking about a '73 Impala being hit by a mid-90's car..
You sort of had a point with the head on crashes but you are not realizing if it's a 4000 pound behemoth in a head on collision with a 2000 pound newer car so your argument doesn't hold very well.. in that case it is NOT like hitting a concrete wall, it's hitting a 4000 pound moving metal box hitting a 2000 pound wad of aluminum foil (it'll crumple ), it's like a block of styrofoam (newer car) hitting a wood block (older car) while both are moving at eachother.. the head on collision arguments you made only hold true if the two cars are of the same design.. two of the older 4000 pound heavy metal cars hitting each other would pose some serious risks without any of them having airbags and crumple zones that newer cars have. And of course I agree that you are at a WAY higher death risk of hitting a brick wall with the older car but then again that is not the same as hitting another moving vehicle..
That same older car hitting a newer car, which are designed to be as light as possible using the least amount of metal necessary, hence the crumple zones and airbags, making the newer car smash like an eggo waffle which it is designed to do with the crumple zones taking the force of the impact, therefore the older cars made with lots of metal not specifically designed to crumple on impact and very heavy 30MPH bumpers would basically be hitting a softer target which would lessen the force of impact quite a lot.. it is very possible for the person in the 4000 pound older car to walk away unharmed depending on the speed (remember the 30 mph bumpers that many had) and the weight of the newer car though that depends on if the impact gave them any trauma if the sudden stop was abrupt enough..
I'm just saying you can't just argue physics in favor of your arguments.. the older cars body will survive much better in an impact than the newer car's body.. and if the newer cars crumple zones are crumpled to far than the people inside are as good as dead.. it's the safety features that are designed to keep people alive that will make a person safer in a newer car most of the time..
Either way I agree with you on the whole because I'd rather drive a newer car with airbags and C-zones than an older car without them any day..

 

[SuperCyrix]

<< Tell you what I'll drive a 4000 pound american muscle car that gets a whopping 6MPG and you can have your jap beer can and we crash into
each other.Who you thinks going to walk away without a scratch? >>



I remember reading several years ago(about 5 years I think on Cars and Driver) when they did a crash test of both US, German, and Jap cars. Most of the heavier and more armored US car did surprisingly worse than the Japanese cars. The Japanese cars did so well, in fact, they were almost at the level of most German cars.

I think the classic muscle cars all look better than most anything we have now, but there is a reason why they had to change the design. They were too heavy and caught too much air.

 

[67gt500]

they certainly do look better.. try riding around with a 30 year old stock metallica green, satin blue, or mud brown paint job and get 'nice car' half a dozen times a day. Muscle cars are without a doubt cherry.

So back street boy and his riced prelude with 17 inch chromes can scoot around and look pretty.. but it just is not the same as a good old american made automobile.