why didn't windows mobile take off in the early 2000's for corporate use?

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doesn't it make sense that your mobile mail devices would be most compatible and secure with a back end mail system engineered by folks from the same company?

were most corps back then on something other than exchange?
how did RIM gain a stronghold in the corporate world over MS?
 

QueBert

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ActiveSync was hoooooorible, it might be better today but it use to suck big time. My Mototola Q would literally successfully sync 1 out of 3-4 attempts. This was on 2 totally different PC's so it wasn't strictly a problem with my computer. I couldn't imagine if I had to use the phone for business and syncing often was vital. I found it ironic that I had a Windows phone on a Windows PC, and by how well they played together. You would have thought I was trying to play a PS2 game on an Xbox
 
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so the logical follow up question, what does MS plan to do about their syncing problem on the windows mobile 7 platform?
 

Deeko

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Actually, Windows Mobile did do well in the corporate market for some time.
 

Zargon

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actviesync got better by 4.x from what I saw, but I was pretty much done with it by then

being that RIM is basically done and will go the way of the dinosaur

not so sure about that. no one does anything like BES but them
 

gsaldivar

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Not sure on WinMo7 but they better do something, being that RIM is basically done and will go the way of the dinosaur

I think it's premature to say that RIM is done, but certainly they have alot of dead inertia on their platform and they have only recently added long overdue features seemingly in direct response to the Android "explosion".

MS, with Exchange, still has a massive corporate presence they can piggyback off of with a truly innovative integration to their mobile platform. They have a great opportunity that they have been squandering year after year. Now that people have a variety of next-generation smartphones to choose from, (I hope) consumers will be looking for more than just pretty UI from MS's next WM release.

As a business customer, I want to know what the hell they are doing with Office and how this will integrate into the cloud and mobile market going forward. Some of my users still don't have integrated Outlook tasks and notes syncing, I am confused why I must dedicate scarce time and resources training people to learn MS's new "ribbon" interface, tons of time and money is being spent doing legal discovery from their ancient Outlook PST file format, and Exchange continues to be expensive to maintain and support.

It irritates me to no end that MS has ignored these needs for so long, and quite honestly makes me question anything they claim to be promoting as their "vision" for the future...
 

zerocool84

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Not sure on WinMo7 but they better do something, being that RIM is basically done and will go the way of the dinosaur

Umm RIM is NOT done. Have you taken a look at their market share still? Even if tons of people go elsewhere they will still have a HUGE chunk of the market.
 

boomhower

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RIM isn't going anywhere. Yes, in the consumer market they are outdated and outclassed. But the corporate environment could careless about apps, games, and multimedia. They care about a secure platform they can control and works well for their uses. RIM fills this need perfectly.
 

gsaldivar

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It's fashionable to bash RIM. They'll get over it one day.

I have to give credit where credit is due...

In the same way that the iPhone stimulated consumer smartphones, RIM has done an amazing job for businesses around the world by providing a rich, secure and reliable platform for communications. They have been and continue to be, the benchmark for all mobile devices targeted for corporate environments.

Unfortunately, RIM has apparently become complacent with its platform and as a whole it is becoming stagnant. RIM's OS refresh and their new Torch device is a big step in the right direction for them, but both are being widely panned as "not enough" to keep them on the cutting edge with the consumer market. I guess time will tell if RIM continues to build on that momentum, or if they expect that the updated OS and some new devices will be enough to keep their market share from eroding further...

57 Percent of US BlackBerry Owners Would Rather Not Be

Some of the more fervent Blackberry fans seem to be convinced that the "bashing" is undeserved, but I think that most Blackberry owners will agree that they are carrying devices that have clearly fallen behind the curve.
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20100802/48-percent-of-us-blackberry-owners-would-rather-not-be/
 
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