why didnt steam engine work in cars while it worked in trains?

[atsizat66]

Before train, an automobile was wished to be made which wasnt able to turn anywhere, just went straight, so it cant be called an automobile acually. When we go back to 1769, we see a french wanted to move something with steam engine without railway, it was as slow as a person walked and in minutes its fuel was running out. Steam engine didnt work in cars, but for something which was to go in railway, it worked. So people made railway and used that tecnology for trains in early 1800s. With steam engine people were travelling on trains but they couldnt do something which could go somewhere where there was no railway so people kept using horses back then too. On land horses and trains with steam engine, on water ships with steam engine are used. There were trains but no cars because cars needed to have a different tecnology, sounds interesting.

 

[SSSnail]

Because micro fusion reactor is not available yet.

 

[highland145]

Needed too much fuel. Too little boiler space.

Are you 12?

 

[highland145]

And fossil fuels.

 

[atsizat66]

Needed too much fuel. Too little boiler space.

Are you 12?

Trains didnt? Do something big and move without railway? The point is they had to go in railway.

 

[thedarkwolf]

They did work and rather well compared to early internal combustion engine cars. The problem with steam was the combustion engines got much better and steam engines were a PITA to deal with for a normal person. Go watch some videos about steam cars on Jay Leno's Garage, he has a bunch and they are very cool.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcAFCEDZU39xnx1gf8_9EDKX-0kVBJXfJ

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Hard to drive and stoke the boiler at the same time.

 

[atsizat66]

They did work and rather well compared to early internal combustion engine cars. The problem with steam was the combustion engines got much better and steam engines were a PITA to deal with for a normal person. Go watch some videos about steam cars on Jay Leno's Garage, he has a bunch and they are very cool.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcAFCEDZU39xnx1gf8_9EDKX-0kVBJXfJ

I understand english more by reading , cause I cant catch words by listening, I prefer to read. Listening makes me too tired because its my second language, I have to focus too much If you can share writtings, I read. Why did you say it worked, people started to travel on trains in early 19 century country but car use appeared in very late 19th century.

 

[skyking]

Trains carry great weights very efficiently, the steel rails and wheels have a relatively low coefficient of rolling resistance. See this article and note that it is the lowest rolling resistance used in examples.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_resistance
The weight penalty for hauling a low density fuel is not a problem, nor the weight for hauling the extra car or the water used.
None of that is true with the automobile.

 

[John Connor]

There is a little hotel up here in Estes park called The Stanley Hotel. It is named after Freelan Oscar Stanley for the Stanley Steamer car. Read about it here my friend. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Motor_Carriage_Company

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stanley_Hotel

 

[Imp]

Thread reminds me how much I want to ride a horse. Come on lottery...

 

[John Connor]

Come out to Colorado man!

 

[Scarpozzi]

Jay Leno is probably the only person willing to own AND maintain those cars these days.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_car

 

[norseamd]

They did work and rather well compared to early internal combustion engine cars. The problem with steam was the combustion engines got much better and steam engines were a PITA to deal with for a normal person. Go watch some videos about steam cars on Jay Leno's Garage, he has a bunch and they are very cool.

This. Steam cars did work perfectly fine and they were the main form of automobile in the late 1800s and early 1900s until gasoline engines replaced most everything else. And the steam technology still was the fastest automobile on the records until many years later and even then now gas turbines are the fastest vehicles.

 

[atsizat66]

Come out to Colorado man!

Why do you say that?

 

[atsizat66]

This. Steam cars did work perfectly fine and they were the main form of automobile in the late 1800s and early 1900s until gasoline engines replaced most everything else. And the steam technology still was the fastest automobile on the records until many years later and even then now gas turbines are the fastest vehicles.

Trains have been existing since early 1800s. Cars weren't made with the steam power tecnology back then. Cars appeared in very late 1800s. After a different kind of engine was invented by Karl Benz, cars became in use.

 

[norseamd]

Trains have been existing since early 1800s. Cars weren't made with the steam power tecnology back then. Cars appeared in very late 1800s. After a different kind of engine was invented by Karl Benz, cars became in use.

Actually looking at Wikipedia it seems railroads were not built until the 1830s and were not in major use until the 1850s when long distance railroads were built and operated at affordable pricing. Automobiles were just beginning to be built around the 1830s also but there was major backlash and laws were made that restricted much of their use and thus majorly slowing the adoption of automobiles.

 

[Micrornd]

The problem with steam cars was never the water consumption, but the inefficiency of heating the water and how long it took.

Doble came closest to solving these problems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doble_steam_car

Perhaps with today's technology, it may be time to revisit his designs.

 

[Regs]

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Now back to reality!

 

[atsizat66]

Actually looking at Wikipedia it seems railroads were not built until the 1830s and were not in major use until the 1850s when long distance railroads were built and operated at affordable pricing. Automobiles were just beginning to be built around the 1830s also but there was major backlash and laws were made that restricted much of their use and thus majorly slowing the adoption of automobiles.

First train moved in railway in 1804 and trains became in use by people in 1820s in England. The first train was moving slow in 1804 but in 1820s they made it fast so it became usable for people. People began to use trains in 1820s in england. After england, france became the second country for train use.