Why did we allow US Corps to build China so strong and skip Mexico?
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PieIsAwesome
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China has better control over its sweatshop labor. Capitalists bribe the corrupt government to allow barbaric working conditions and uncontrolled pollution.
In Mexico the drug trade has too much power for that to work as well.
In Mexico the drug trade has too much power for that to work as well.
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As for the drug trade comment. The drug trade doesn't make it harder to corrupt Mexican officials but instead it just makes it more dangerous not to have your own business shook down once cartels find out you have money.
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WTF is the OP whining about now? China has a very good infrastructure and educational system. They also have order and a political system that, although dictatorial, is far less corrupt than what you have in Mexico. It is through hard work and excellent government policies that the Chinese got to where they are today. Perhaps the Mexicans can do the same for themselves.
Money's a decent explanation. It's cheaper to work with China then with Mexico apparently.
I highly doubt that DaveSimmons has ever been to a Chinese factory, let alone China.
Why would the Mexican working conditions be screwed simply due to drug trading? What's in it for the dealers? I thought they were the ones doing the bullying and intimidation... They don't seem like tree huggers either. Nice try.
I highly doubt that DaveSimmons has ever been to a Chinese factory, let alone China.
Why would the Mexican working conditions be screwed simply due to drug trading? What's in it for the dealers? I thought they were the ones doing the bullying and intimidation... They don't seem like tree huggers either. Nice try.
Yeah if Mexicans try harder they too can have their officials okaying lead products to be used in their baby foods.
Sí se puede !!!
Jaskalas
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We wanted a buffer against World War 3. Seems to have worked well so far.
Why China? Russia and Chinese Nuclear Weapons.
A strong China is a rival to Russia. It is also less likely to feel threatend and thus less likely to use their nuclear weapons.
Why China? Russia and Chinese Nuclear Weapons.
A strong China is a rival to Russia. It is also less likely to feel threatend and thus less likely to use their nuclear weapons.
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Would you drink the water in Mexico? I wouldn't. It's a 3rd world country. People there still shit worms.
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Do you think if things were better in Mexico some of the people you hate wouldn't be here - illegals
so we build up china and watch mexicans have reason after reason to gtfo of their country.. yet you still feel good about giving the money to China
Aree you retarded? We didn't 'build up China'. The Chinese did. Again, they have an excellent infrastructure and educational system that makes it conducive for trade. Their labor market is also tightly regulated. Now, tree-huggers can harp that China is a dictatorship. However, so was Mexico until about 10 years ago. The PRI ruled that country for 80 or so years and did little compared to China.
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HUH? "We didn't build up China"?????
OH.. I get it.. China built the factories for our parts and trained all their citizens ... WE built the factories.. with OUR corporate MONEY
MASSIVE PROFITS GO to china... because of you and me and the US Corporations and Worldwide corporations...
Sad that none of it went to Education in Texas
If Mexico was more conducive to trade and had a competent education system and did not have a culture of corruption, it would be a different story. I'm not really sure the point of this thread but you're implying that it's somehow corporate America's fault for Mexico's failure, which is a stupid and simplistic fallacy.
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Corruption.
You can't build an economy if you can't control it. Corruption is pathological to pretty much every country south of the USA and they will all be shitholes until they can figure out how to reduce it. China has a cultural heritage which makes corruption not nearly as crippling. Yes China also has plenty of corruption (as any singel party bureaucracy inevitably will), but it is more manageable because of the commonly held values of order and discipline.
You can't build an economy if you can't control it. Corruption is pathological to pretty much every country south of the USA and they will all be shitholes until they can figure out how to reduce it. China has a cultural heritage which makes corruption not nearly as crippling. Yes China also has plenty of corruption (as any singel party bureaucracy inevitably will), but it is more manageable because of the commonly held values of order and discipline.
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Narmer, It had ZERO to do with education.. LMAO... how smart do you have to be to work a manufacturing assembly line.. god damn .. do you help them brainwash you
PROFITS.. MONEY$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
They pump billiions into China while our southern border is fucking broke and the poorest people break through our borders and try to create a living.. yet you feel fine.. SENDING Billions to your future enemy
PROFITS.. MONEY$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
They pump billiions into China while our southern border is fucking broke and the poorest people break through our borders and try to create a living.. yet you feel fine.. SENDING Billions to your future enemy
Sigh.
China has strong (if corrupt) government control, with no internal rivals to its power. If you buy the local officials you can run a hellhole like the Foxconn factories where suicide is the only escape. As long as you don't challenge the central government and pay what they ask you can do pretty much what you want, with a certain amount of protection.
In Mexico, government is weak and fighting with the drug cartels. If you buy the local officials two warring cartels could still kidnap or kill your workers and burn down your factory. Or kidnap / kill the officials that you just bought.
Both are corrupt, but if you want to build iPods while paying workers $5 a day, which is more attractive? The stable, orderly China or the chaotic and violent Mexico?
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I am surprised people can not see how disadvantageous it is to invest in China vs Strengthening our Continent and our neighbors...
Actually.. this is the first time I thought about it this way... We played both sides of the profit game
Our Agricultural Corporations utilized the illegal labor as long as they could while the electronics corps profited off of the Slave/Communist wages in China
Actually.. this is the first time I thought about it this way... We played both sides of the profit game
Our Agricultural Corporations utilized the illegal labor as long as they could while the electronics corps profited off of the Slave/Communist wages in China
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My apologies to Dave for I missed this part that I bolded. You Sir, are correct.. CASH BRIBES is why we are in China
If a US Corporation can make 100 million items at $1 cheaper each in China then that = $100,000,000 ... Money will always rule US all
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Truly strengthening Mexico would require more honesty about American domestic policy than Congress could ever muster. Specifically the war on drugs, the entire agriculture industry, including all the tariffs and subsidies involved in international agricultural trade, and immigration. Without massive restructuring of federal policy in those areas there is no way Mexico could be made safe for large scale investment. (Unless of course they won the lottery and suddenly could simply pay for massive societal upgrades a la Saudi Arabia.)
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