Why did they cancel Dark Angel?

[Zim Hosein]

3 more DVDs from netflix and I'll be done w/ season 2!

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
3 more DVDs from netflix and I'll be done w/ season 2!

I KNOW! they exchanged it for that stupid horses in space show! no more jessica alba every week


i think its because they were all too jealous of how hot she was.

 

[StageLeft]

It was not good, like most of these sci-fi shows that have nothing going for them--NOTHING--besides an attractive protagonist.

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

--NOTHING--besides an attractive protagonist.

What more do you need?

 

[0roo0roo]

its easier to just watch pr0n if thats what ur watchin it for..and thats all it had going for it

 

[Falloutboy]

the first season rocked....then the second season well...lets just say it didn't

 

[Anubis]

because it sucked

 

[whistleclient]

sci fi = expensive effects and (relatively speaking) low ratings.
unfortunately reality tv is taking over. it's super cheap to make and they get high ratings. look at that american idol crap.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: tangent1138
sci fi = expensive effects and (relatively speaking) low ratings.
unfortunately reality tv is taking over. it's super cheap to make and they get high ratings. look at that american idol crap.

Reality TV series starring Jessica Alba, where they show her 24/7.... Hmmm....

 

[Falloutboy]

Originally posted by: tangent1138
sci fi = expensive effects and (relatively speaking) low ratings.
unfortunately reality tv is taking over. it's super cheap to make and they get high ratings. look at that american idol crap.

Reality TV must die!!!! its ruining tv.. god I really think we need to move away from network tv and make a show like a subscription just subscribe to the shows you like no ads no crap just get a new show weekly or biweekly deliverd to a video on demand box...say 20 bucks per series per year for high end dramas/scifi, 5-10 bucks for cheaper shows. You would only need a million people ot watch a show based on the average million per episode high end dramas make. I mean look at enterprise it gets about 3million people watching a week, say half of them are fans, thats a 1.5million people. I know what your saying people won't want to pay for watching a show, but they al ready are people pay upwards to 50-100 a mounth for cable and satalight, and honestly how much of it do you really watch? lets say you watch 10 new shows thats 200 bucks a year. add in "rerun" packs for older shows for say 1-2bucks a year. I honestly think this would greatly improve the quality of tv and would allow for more niche tv genres to emerge.

 

[rh71]

2 factors really:

1) It was receiving low ratings in the 2nd season (gee I wonder if that Friday 9pm timeslot helped that any)... besides, Fox is known for pulling shows without a 2nd thought so they were quick... I mean... Firefly as a replacement ? WTF was that ? I lost interest 30 minutes into the pilot episode. Anyway the 3rd season of DA was actually picked up... then the next day the cast was told different.

2) Budget. Even during season 1, James Cameron was spending well over $1mil per episode (nice elaborative sets and a lot of effects). That just does not go over too well with small screen production. Add that with #1 and Fox pulls the plug.

If you watch the season 1 extras on the DVD, you'll hear Jessica Alba comment how the real Dark Angel story was all about what happened in season 1. The writers decided to go another route for season 2 (instead of telling a repetitive story which is understandable) and evidently *some* people including a few actors weren't happy with it. Alba has also commented on record that if the story were to ever come back (say, like in a movie), she will not play Max... she's moving on with her career. She's even producing her own movie in 2006. Cameron also said he would not do small screen stuff again. RIP DA. If you're interested in further storyline, you can hit up VDA for fanfic stuff. There are also 3 books available that continued the story.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: Falloutboy

Originally posted by: tangent1138
sci fi = expensive effects and (relatively speaking) low ratings.
unfortunately reality tv is taking over. it's super cheap to make and they get high ratings. look at that american idol crap.

Reality TV must die!!!! its ruining tv.. god I really think we need to move away from network tv and make a show like a subscription just subscribe to the shows you like no ads no crap just get a new show weekly or biweekly deliverd to a video on demand box...say 20 bucks per series per year for high end dramas/scifi, 5-10 bucks for cheaper shows. You would only need a million people ot watch a show based on the average million per episode high end dramas make. I mean look at enterprise it gets about 3million people watching a week, say half of them are fans, thats a 1.5million people. I know what your saying people won't want to pay for watching a show, but they al ready are people pay upwards to 50-100 a mounth for cable and satalight, and honestly how much of it do you really watch? lets say you watch 10 new shows thats 200 bucks a year. add in "rerun" packs for older shows for say 1-2bucks a year. I honestly think this would greatly improve the quality of tv and would allow for more niche tv genres to emerge.

semi-intersting concept. hmm.

1.*looks around*
2.*jots down falloutboy's idea*
3.*waits for perfect oportunity*
4.*Masturbate furiously
...
Profit!

 

[dragonballgtz]

I never watched Dark Angel. What happened in the first season?

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Falloutboy

Originally posted by: tangent1138
sci fi = expensive effects and (relatively speaking) low ratings.
unfortunately reality tv is taking over. it's super cheap to make and they get high ratings. look at that american idol crap.

Reality TV must die!!!! its ruining tv.. god I really think we need to move away from network tv and make a show like a subscription just subscribe to the shows you like no ads no crap just get a new show weekly or biweekly deliverd to a video on demand box...say 20 bucks per series per year for high end dramas/scifi, 5-10 bucks for cheaper shows. You would only need a million people ot watch a show based on the average million per episode high end dramas make. I mean look at enterprise it gets about 3million people watching a week, say half of them are fans, thats a 1.5million people. I know what your saying people won't want to pay for watching a show, but they al ready are people pay upwards to 50-100 a mounth for cable and satalight, and honestly how much of it do you really watch? lets say you watch 10 new shows thats 200 bucks a year. add in "rerun" packs for older shows for say 1-2bucks a year. I honestly think this would greatly improve the quality of tv and would allow for more niche tv genres to emerge.

Network tv is free to us because they are being paid by advertisers (commercials). The better the show / the more people who watch, the more the network is financially supported (and they pay the show). Nothing new there. What you're missing in the subscription proposition is marketing. We hear about these shows because there are network campaigns to market them - we see them repeatedly and we may even catch an episode or two and become interested.

Now are you really going to get 1.5 million people to subscribe to a show which was never shown on public television ? That's pretty ambitious. And better yet, would production companies take a gamble on creating these shows without knowing how well it will be received ? The profits would only come in after subscriptions are purchased and they would have to rely on themselves to do the marketing... even more $$$ expunged.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: dragonballgtz
I never watched Dark Angel. What happened in the first season?

here .. eps 1-22.

Episode 12 can only be fully appreciated with a visual image of Alba in a tight red dress (the entire episode). Search pics.bbzzdd for "artattack"

Tidbit: one of the DA writers helped write The 4400 pilot.

 

[Alex]

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Why did they cancel Dark Angel?(

cause it sucked.

 

[loic2003]

Why did they cancel Dark Angel?

Because it was fvcking sh!t.
Read a book.

 

[Queasy]

because Firefily was better



J/K Seriously, the show sucked monkey-butt the second season. Look on the bright side, you'll now be able to enjoy Alba in Sin City and Fantastic Four.

 

[0roo0roo]

stick to renting hbo shows. their consistent quality is hard to match.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Queasy
because Firefily was better



J/K

Just read this on tvtome:

Fox cancelled the show so they could afford to produce what was the highly anticipated sci-fi western Firefly from Buffy creator Joss Whedon. It would have been too costly to produce two futuristic sci-fi shows with expensive sets,speicial effects,etc. Rather than stick with Dark Angel,which was getting mediocre ratings, Fox felt it was worth the risk to axe this show and replace it with Firefly. Of course , in the end , Fox was wrong in making that decision as not only did Dark Angel much better ratings than Firefly but there were problems from day one with Firefly as the pilot was not satisfying enough by Fox standards and had to be reshot.

Now I have even more reason to despise Firefly.

 

[nakedfrog]

I liked Firefly more than I liked Dark Angel.

 

[Queasy]

Fox mishandled both badly FWIW...especially Firefly. Little to no advertising, showed episodes out of order, didn't show the original pilot that gives a proper introduction to the characters until after the show was cancelled. Watching the series on DVD, Firefly was definitely underrated (IMHO).

I think Dark Angel got about 10 times the advertising that Firefly did.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Fox mishandled both badly FWIW...especially Firefly. Little to no advertising, showed episodes out of order, didn't show the original pilot that gives a proper introduction to the characters until after the show was cancelled. Watching the series on DVD, Firefly was definitely underrated (IMHO).

I think Dark Angel got about 10 times the advertising that Firefly did.

debuting on a Friday night didn't help Firefly either. I don't think Fox gave either one a chance (DA season 2 or Firefly). I think Fox decides which shows should succeed or not depending on their own liking, not the viewers'.

 

[kage69]

Cuz it sucked (but don't get me wrong, I drool over Alba as much as anyone).

 

[mcvickj]

Because it sucked would also be my answer. My dad loved the show but I couldn't get into it. Much the same with Enterprise. I'm a fan of Star Trek but I sure wouldn't shed a tear if Enterprise dies.