Why did Flutie drop-kick today????????

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RaistlinZ

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I think this falls under the realm of "Just for the f*ck of it".

That's why he did it.
 

dionx

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Originally posted by: Hummin
Y'all do know a drop-kick can be used in another situation, right?

When a team receives a punt, if the punt is fair-caught, the receiving team can then drop-kick for a field goal right then, even if time has expired on the clock.

Very little known rule of football, but it's there.

really? i thought drop kicks can only be done behind a line of scrimmage, and with a punt reception, there was no line of scrimmage unless its the place of the catch.
 

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So I guess the other team must have thought they were lining up for a two-point conversion? They must have thought "WTF?"
 

Spacehead

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Originally posted by: redgtxdi
Here's the excerpt about the "downfield to the kicker" type of drop-kick score tactic I was talking about from the article..........


When Donald Trump owned the New Jersey Generals of the USFL he ordered more gadgetry, so they ran an off-balance goal-line muddle huddle thing they called the Trump Tower. Doug Flutie was the QB, and if ever a man was born for this type of football, it was Flutie. Once he told me about a bunch of his ideas he called "Ways to win a game that a coach would never think of."

My favorite was this one: "What do you do when you're down by a point and you're near midfield and you can call only one more play? Line your kicker up on the flank, run him across the field, throw him the ball and have him try a drop-kick." A drop-kick? During the live action? "It's legal," Flutie said. "Three points." Yeah, but who knows how to dropkick in this day and age?

"I do," Flutie said. "I practice it."


Man.....of all the trick plays I'd love to see tried in a game........LOL!!!! :laugh:

Didn't the USFL have some different rules from the NFL? Maybe that only applied to the USFL?
 

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Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
I think this falls under the realm of "Just for the f*ck of it".

That's why he did it.

That's the best clarification for the subject.
 

new2AMD

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Originally posted by: Hummin
Y'all do know a drop-kick can be used in another situation, right?

When a team receives a punt, if the punt is fair-caught, the receiving team can then drop-kick for a field goal right then, even if time has expired on the clock.

Very little known rule of football, but it's there.

thats a free kick not a drop kick. Meaning you get to try a field goal with no defense.
 
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Originally posted by: new2AMD
Originally posted by: Hummin
Y'all do know a drop-kick can be used in another situation, right?

When a team receives a punt, if the punt is fair-caught, the receiving team can then drop-kick for a field goal right then, even if time has expired on the clock.

Very little known rule of football, but it's there.

thats a free kick not a drop kick. Meaning you get to try a field goal with no defense.

actually I believe you are both right. A drop kick can be used any time a place kick can be used IIRC.
 

new2AMD

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: new2AMD
Originally posted by: Hummin
Y'all do know a drop-kick can be used in another situation, right?

When a team receives a punt, if the punt is fair-caught, the receiving team can then drop-kick for a field goal right then, even if time has expired on the clock.

Very little known rule of football, but it's there.

thats a free kick not a drop kick. Meaning you get to try a field goal with no defense.

actually I believe you are both right. A drop kick can be used any time a place kick can be used IIRC.
can they be used with no defensive rush?

 
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Originally posted by: new2AMD
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: new2AMD
Originally posted by: Hummin
Y'all do know a drop-kick can be used in another situation, right?

When a team receives a punt, if the punt is fair-caught, the receiving team can then drop-kick for a field goal right then, even if time has expired on the clock.

Very little known rule of football, but it's there.

thats a free kick not a drop kick. Meaning you get to try a field goal with no defense.

actually I believe you are both right. A drop kick can be used any time a place kick can be used IIRC.
but are they worth the same?

yes, it's just an option. In the early days, drop kicks were much more common. They didn't have tees for one thing, so they always needed a holder
 

Baked

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Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: Hummin
Y'all do know a drop-kick can be used in another situation, right?

When a team receives a punt, if the punt is fair-caught, the receiving team can then drop-kick for a field goal right then, even if time has expired on the clock.

Very little known rule of football, but it's there.

that would be a pretty long drop-kick.

Pretty sure you need to bring in Chuck Norris for that.
 
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Originally posted by Wikipedia

In American football and Canadian football, one method of scoring a field goal is by drop-kicking the football through the goal.

The drop kick was often used as a surprise tactic. The ball would be snapped or lateraled to a back, who would perhaps fake a run or pass, but then would kick the field goal instead.

This method of scoring worked well in the 1920s and 1930s, when the football was rounder at the ends (similar to a modern rugby ball). Early football stars such as Jim Thorpe and Paddy Driscoll were skilled drop-kickers.

In the 1930s, the ball was made more pointed at the ends. This made passing the ball easier, as was its intent, but made the drop kick obsolete, as the more pointed ball did not bounce up from the ground reliably. The drop kick was supplanted by the place kick, which cannot be attempted out of a formation generally used as a running or passing set. The drop kick remains in the rules, but is seldom seen, and rarely effective when attempted.

The only execution of the drop kick in the modern-day NFL was by Doug Flutie, quarterback of the New England Patriots, against the Miami Dolphins on January 1, 2006 for an extra point after a touchdown. This was the first successful drop kick since 1941, when it was executed by Chicago's Ray "Scooter" McLean in the Bears' 37-9 victory over the New York Giants on Dec. 21.

Flutie's drop-kick was a farewell gesture by Coach Bill Belichick for Flutie in what was expected to be his last regular season game before retirement; it was not a strategic move. Flutie had practiced this before, actually converting a few when he played in the Canadian Football League.

Prior to Flutie's historic drop-kick, the only vocal proponent of the drop-kick in the modern NFL had been Jim McMahon, quarterback for several NFL teams. During the 1980s, while playing in Chicago, McMahon regularly practiced the drop kick, and was known to frequently petition Bears head coach Mike Ditka for an opportunity to use the maneuver. Ditka, who regarded the play as an anachronism, never allowed it.

In Arena football a drop-kicked extra point counts for two points rather than one; a drop-kicked field goal counts for four points rather than three. Seemingly the game's inventors hoped that a team trailing by four points on an apparent final play might attempt a very dramatic drop kick in order to tie the game. However, the additional incentive has not been enough of an enticement to produce many drop kicks after the first few years of Arena play. The absence of drop-kicking from any other level or variety of gridiron football in the present day means that there is no pool of experienced and capable drop kickers for the Arena league to draw from, and the play would in any event occur too seldom to seem to be worth the amount of practice time that would have to be devoted to it for it to be executed at any real level of proficiency; in practice a pass off of the rebound nets above the endlines which, if completed, would result in six points and a win for the team down by four points, rather than a tie and overtime, probably has at least an equal and possibly a superior chance of success.
 

Kenazo

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So, he pulled that one out of his days in the CFL? I'd love to see him back up here coaching. He completely dominated the CFL for years.
 

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It's sad that the US never got to see Doug Flutie in his prime. He was simply a machine, and would find ways to win that you would never think is possible. Since there is only 3 downs in the CFL, it meant that passing plays were much more important then running plays with a lot more Flutie action. Buffalo completly destroyed their chances for the Super Bowl when they played Johnson instead of Flutie for the playoffs who brought them to where they were while Johnson was injured. It's been the story of Flutie's life, a proven clutch quarterback, yet always too 'small' for the NFL even till the end or put on the sidelines for a new kid.

Oh and Flutie Flakes were damn sugary!
 

alien42

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for those who missed it, cbs is about to replay it on the east coast after this commercial break