Why democracy is a failed enterprise

[Dr. Zaus]

His party was the Brotherhood of Brothers, and
there were more of them than of the others.
That is, they constituted that minority
which formed the greater part of the majority.
Within the party, he was of the faction
that was supported by the greater fraction.
And in each group, within each group, he sought
the group that could command the most support.
The final group had finally elected
a triumvirate whom they all respected.
Now of these three, two had the final word,
because the two could overrule the third.
One of these two was relatively weak,
so one alone stood at the final peak.
He was THE GREATER NUMBER of the pair
which formed the most part of the three that were
elected by the most of those whose boast
it was to represent the most of most
of most of most of the entire state-
or of the most of it at any rate.
He never gave himself a moments slumber
but sought the welfare of the greatest number.
And all the people, everywhere they went
knew to their cost exactly what it meant
to be dictated to by the majority.
But that meant nothing-they were the minority.


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We see this in George Bush:
He was the majority, in enough minorities (states) to be given credit to each.
(not to mention that the majority of the minority in the republican party was "cut-taxes and spend more" and then among those folks the majority of the minority was "spend on war and not infrastructure")

And thus we are ruled by the 'majority' (pro-war, tax-cutters that increase spending).

 

[feralkid]

 

[Juror No. 8]

An Al Gore presidency would hardly have been distinguishable from a George W. Bush presidency. The narrative we would have been fed in the media might have been different, but the outcome was going to be the same either way.

Democracy's been dead and buried in this country for much, much longer than that.

 

[Anarchist420]

An Al Gore presidency would hardly have been distinguishable from a George W. Bush presidency. The narrative we would have been fed in the media might have been different, but the outcome was going to be the same either way.

Democracy's been dead and buried in this country for much, much longer than that.

al gore was a devil but he liked getting people riled up and pushing Clinton's buttons so I like al gore. Not that I'd want to wallow in his rude feces for too long, but I'd rather him fart around than me Romney... I'm going to try not to fuel the gas of the latter because it would be rude, crude, and mean... I don't want to live with health issues for the rest of my life but if Romney farts the red fiery communist fuel shoved down his intestines when the American state crashes, then hopefully all of the intellectuals will already have been dead or sheltered by communists half way across the globe... Romney's gas will be like a million times worse than hitler's for people like me anyway and I am no communist, but it is going to be necessary to fight fascism and to kill the American state. reagan's ghost would justify it and Obama will be right when his ghost says communism didn't build itself because Obama will depart this world a Jeffersonian Democrat rather than communist or a fascist. Romney may wipe out like 10% of the world population plus every single dr. Paul supporter.

Sorry fascist folks, this is a war the American state can't last through. China will colonize our asses, so I am going to be nice to the communists for now even though they aren't pro-confederalism... At least maybe I'll get something out of china when they come and colonize my homeland though. I just won't like the forced individualism and the excessive brightness of the Light Age too much, but it won't kill me if I don't die from war repression or from Romney's final fart of fury. Maybe if I do survive, I'll convince the communists to reinstate the articles of confederation and to forever restore the spirit of jefferson to America forever rather than the artificial monster and stupid bogus experiment created by Hamilton... I have to admire al gore's global warming though and Hamilton for trying to give the world some cool technology, but I hope to collect the best of it and the most of it after the American state is dead kind of like when he tricked washington into stealing the whiskey boys' arms and lands before turning them into military forts.

 

[lotus503]

An Al Gore presidency would hardly have been distinguishable from a George W. Bush presidency. The narrative we would have been fed in the media might have been different, but the outcome was going to be the same either way.

Democracy's been dead and buried in this country for much, much longer than that.

Spot on!!

 

[bradley]

See America as a constitutional republic with inherent unalienable rights, not a direct democracy/mobocracy or even a representative democracy, and we clearly define the battle and high stakes. So democracy already had failed long before it started in ancient Greece.

 

[monovillage]

Good thing too.

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
: Benjamin Franklin

 

[gingermeggs]

whats the point of a lamb with a gun! better a man with a vote and the facts- shit talk! vote with your dollar! THINK ABOUT YOU CHOICES WITH YOUR DOLLAR!

 

[Dr. Zaus]

whats the point of a lamb with a gun! better a man with a vote and the facts- shit talk! vote with your dollar! THINK ABOUT YOU CHOICES WITH YOUR DOLLAR!

Aslong as dollars buy guns sheep will shoot wolves.

 

[Incorruptible]

The US was never meant to be a democracy, democracy doesn't work

 

[Greenman]

The US was never meant to be a democracy, democracy doesn't work

The way it was explained to me was "you can't increase a sum by adding zeros".

 

[shortylickens]

Dixy, I love you everywhere except P&N.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Dixy, I love you everywhere except P&N.

Thank you Shorty. P&N is a silly place and we shouldn't go there.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Thank you Shorty. P&N is a silly place and we shouldn't go there.

It is silly. It's also representative of a very real reason of why our version of democracy fails. There are two wolves and the majority of the sheep arm themselves and follow one which they will defend against their own. The wolves do very well. The sheep? Not so well.

 

[Smoblikat]

Good thing too.

Mother of absolute christ. That quote might be my new favorite.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

It is silly. It's also representative of a very real reason of why our version of democracy fails. There are two wolves and the majority of the sheep arm themselves and follow one which they will defend against their own. The wolves do very well. The sheep? Not so well.

Maybe the solution is to be a goat.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

.....And so the solution to having Democracy is.....?

 

[Greenman]

.....And so the solution to having Democracy is.....?

A constitutional republic is pretty good. From a straight up efficiency standpoint, you can't beat a dictatorship. The problem is finding good dictators.

 

[sandorski]

A constitutional republic is pretty good. From a straight up efficiency standpoint, you can't beat a dictatorship. The problem is finding good dictators.

Most Constitutional Republics are Democracies.

 

[nehalem256]

The problem with Democracy is that there are too many idiots.

Restrict who can vote and things would work much better.

You would think Democrats would jump on the idea considering that all the idiots vote Republican right?

 

[kia75]

An Al Gore presidency would hardly have been distinguishable from a George W. Bush presidency. The narrative we would have been fed in the media might have been different, but the outcome was going to be the same either way.

Democracy's been dead and buried in this country for much, much longer than that.

How can you say that? Would we be in Iraq if Al Gore had been president? Would the BUSH tax cuts have been passed if Al Gore would have been president? Things would be very different if gore had been president.

 

[Nemesis 1]

The only way democracy fails is threw socialism because of the poor who are lazy and uneducated. Its not like they want to be its like homosexuality .Their genepool is corputed

 

[Nemesis 1]

How can you say that? Would we be in Iraq if Al Gore had been president? Would the BUSH tax cuts have been passed if Al Gore would have been president? Things would be very different if gore had been president.

So gore would have stopped the 2001 crash and it would have stopped 9/11. You draw a pretty picture for the liar gore but its abstract picture ..

 

[kia75]

So gore would have stopped the 2001 crash and it would have stopped 9/11. You draw a pretty picture for the liar gore but its abstract picture ..

What does Iraq have to do with 9-11? Osama Bin Laden was in AFGHANISTAN, not IRAQ!

Since we had no business in Iraq, yes, under a Gore Presidency we would not be there. We probably would have invaded Afghanistan, but fighting a war on one front is much easier then fighting a war on two fronts.

So yes, things under a Gore presidency would be much different, the Bush tax cuts would not have been passed and we never would have invaded Iraq. Those two are the biggest differences but there would have been tons of little differences, the make-up of the Supreme court would be changed, I believe we would have done more to combat global warming.

 

[Jaskalas]

What does Iraq have to do with 9-11? Osama Bin Laden was in AFGHANISTAN, not IRAQ!

*cough* We killed him in Pakistan. We missed not one, but two birds. The one that attacked us is still very much fat, happy, and receiving our money. America's foreign policy is really horrible.