Why Car Batteries Are Dying Young

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Why Car Batteries Are Dying Young

By JONATHAN WELSH, The Wall Street Journal

Michael Pancheri's New York shop specializes in modifying sports cars to improve their power, speed and handling. But lately he has taken on an extra job: tending to his customers' batteries.

Car batteries traditionally needed to be replaced every three to five years, but the interval seems to be shrinking to about two years, says Mr. Pancheri. "We have seen an increase in failed batteries over the last two years from customers who have add-on electronics like iPods and navigation systems," he says.

A steady increase in the number of electrical accessories in the average car is shortening battery life. As vehicles are now being designed to operate more systems, they still use the same basic type of 12-volt battery that has been in use for decades.

In the past decade or so cars have evolved from basic transportation to something resembling dens, kitchens and offices on wheels, with everything from DVD screens, subwoofer sound systems and mood lighting to built-in refrigerators and cup holders that heat coffee and cool soft drinks. The automotive aftermarket also offers an ever-growing range of gadgets that help multitasking drivers and passengers talk, eat, find their way around and get their work done on the road.

For consumers, the proliferation of onboard electronics means increased comfort, convenience, efficiency and safety in the form of computerized engine controls, tire-pressure sensors, and powerful navigation and entertainment systems. The downside: All these power-sapping accessories -- coupled with vehicles' increasingly complex networks of electronic-ignition systems, pollution-control devices, security systems and display screens -- could be helping to drive up the death rate for car batteries.

Even parked cars are using more juice than they used to. It isn't that owners are simply forgetting to turn off the headlights, or leaving their cellphones charging overnight. There are many electronic devices in today's vehicles that continue to draw power even after the ignition is turned off.

Electric fans under the hood may run for several minutes after a vehicle is turned off to cool the engine. And navigation, engine-management and diagnostic systems need power to maintain memory and can slowly discharge a battery to where it cannot easily be recharged simply by running the car.

Sales of replacement batteries -- which range from $50 to $200 -- jumped 13% to 67.7 million in 2006, compared with 59.9 million a year earlier and an average of about 54 million a year for the previous 10 years, according to data from Industry MR, a research firm in Oak Brook, Ill. A spokesman for the firm says there are other factors that contribute to the jump in battery replacement. For one, people are keeping their cars longer, and the frequency of battery replacement tends to increase in cars that are more than five years old.

Other trends are also contributing to the strain on batteries. Diesel engines, which are beginning to make a comeback in passenger cars, require more starting power. Even the steady increase in the number of vehicles per household can mean that some cars are used less often, giving batteries more time to discharge and deteriorate.

Manufacturers test new vehicles to make sure they can be parked for a few weeks without their electronic systems draining the battery to the point where it cannot start the engine. But these tests don't necessarily consider how consumers actually use their cars.

The 12-volt car battery traces its origin to French physicist Gaston Plante, who invented the lead-acid battery in 1859. Over time, car batteries have generally become more powerful and longer-lasting. Still, ever-increasing demands from motorists have kept their typical life span between three and five years. They can last twice that long if they are cared for properly and not often exposed to extreme temperatures.

People have steadily spent more time over the past decade or two commuting, eating, watching movies and otherwise living in their cars. But the auto industry was slow to change vehicle design to cater to motorists' changing needs. Where using an accessory once meant plugging in to the cigarette lighter, vehicles now have as many power outlets as a home office and spaces designed to hold cellphones and laptop computers.

For years batteries have been marketed as "maintenance free," and consumers have taken them for granted. But the extra strain they are under in modern cars has many owners giving them renewed attention. Experts say it's a good idea to disconnect the battery when a vehicle is parked for weeks at a time, but it will still slowly discharge even when stored. Small charging devices called trickle chargers, which cost $30 to $60, can extend battery life by keeping it fully charged when the car is parked.

But people shouldn't expect miracles from the extra effort at maintenance. The biggest threats to battery health -- extreme weather and vibration -- often are impossible to avoid.

 

Gooberlx2

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*shrug* I haven't had to replace the battery in any of my cars, ever. But I might be out of the times and have don't have any lingering electronics consuming power all the time.
 

lozina

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Oh, I would have went with the more cynical "they don't make 'em like they used to" conclusion
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: lozina
Oh, I would have went with the more cynical "they don't make 'em like they used to" conclusion

I would've went with the people buying cheap Wal-Mart Buy One Get One Free batteries.
 

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The auto industry has no incentive to improve the batteries or the electrical systems in their cars because people will replace their batteries like they replace their wipers.

More money for the industry.
 

Kelemvor

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I got my last battery from Sams I think. It was about 5 years ago or so I think. Still working fine.
 

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The car battery seems to be the only component in the car that has remain the same the last four generations.
 

BUTCH1

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I usually replace my battery@2.5-3 yrs. as the FL heat is really tough on them
 

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
The auto industry has no incentive to improve the batteries or the electrical systems in their cars because people will replace their batteries like they replace their wipers.

More money for the industry.

The auto industry is not in the business of making batteries, but they have made many improvements in electrical systems over the years.
 

Linflas

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I thought they were supposed to be moving towards implementing a newer system using 24Volt batteries by now. I know I read something about this a few years back.
 

spacejamz

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my battery on my 05 TL went out at 2 years (probably the TX heat that killed it though)...

only accessory I have is my 8500 escort that is hardwired in the electrical system. no ipods or cellphones have been plugged in...
 

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: lozina
Oh, I would have went with the more cynical "they don't make 'em like they used to" conclusion

I would've went with the people buying cheap Wal-Mart Buy One Get One Free batteries.

My wal-mart everstart battery is going on 6 years old and is still working fine. I have no gadgets but do have an aftermarket stereo, amp, and subwoofers though.
 

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Hmm, I just replaced the original battery in my Saturn a few months ago.
Almost 9 years old and 95,000 miles. Not too bad I'd say. :)
 

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: lozina
Oh, I would have went with the more cynical "they don't make 'em like they used to" conclusion

I would've went with the people buying cheap Wal-Mart Buy One Get One Free batteries.

I bought a cheap Wal-Mart battery. It was rated near the top in quality in Consumer Reports. I haven't had a problem with it in 4 years. In fact, it outperformed the Optima batteries that all the ricers like to use.
 

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I'd go with people buying cheap crap, whether they realise it or not.

The last battery in my car lasted 9 years. To claim people should expect 2 years out of any battery because they plugged in an iPod or a GPS is ridiculous, what a crock.
 

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
The auto industry has no incentive to improve the batteries or the electrical systems in their cars because people will replace their batteries like they replace their wipers.

More money for the industry.

You're starting to sound like Dave.
 

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I think the real reason for the shortened lifespan of batteries has nothing to do with more electronics. I think they're misinterpreting the statistics. Even when I was younger people had audio systems in their cars which sapped power, but when the car is running it runs off the alternator.

I think the main reason is that aftermarket auto parts are getting lower in quality. I had to buy an alternator for my car a while back, and the first one was clearly not assembled right, as the bearing seized up in days. The second one I got failed in a few weeks. They forgot to put a spacer on it that holds the pulley out, so the belt wasn't aligned with the pulley. The third one worked. They're assembled in Mexico.

My girlfriend has gone through 3 batteries in the past year, and it's due to her radio. It's not because the radio draws a lot of power, it's because the wiring they installed ended up shorting out intermittently, which would drain the battery so low that it wouldn't take a charge anymore. So it's more likely that the increased premature failure rate of car batteries has something to do with those electronics failing and killing the battery than them working properly and somehow "hurting" the battery.
 

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Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
I'd go with people buying cheap crap, whether they realise it or not.

The last battery in my car lasted 9 years. To claim people should expect 2 years out of any battery because they plugged in an iPod or a GPS is ridiculous, what a crock.

Does your car have a nav system running constantly? A DVD/video game system running constantly for the kids? Two or three cell phones plugged in along with your iPod? A high powered stereo?

I wouldn't call it a crock. Many new cars have all this and more going on.
 

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Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
I'd go with people buying cheap crap, whether they realise it or not.

The last battery in my car lasted 9 years. To claim people should expect 2 years out of any battery because they plugged in an iPod or a GPS is ridiculous, what a crock.

don't your batteries run double the voltage over there?
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
I'd go with people buying cheap crap, whether they realise it or not.

The last battery in my car lasted 9 years. To claim people should expect 2 years out of any battery because they plugged in an iPod or a GPS is ridiculous, what a crock.

Does your car have a nav system running constantly? A DVD/video game system running constantly for the kids? Two or three cell phones plugged in along with your iPod? A high powered stereo?

I wouldn't call it a crock. Many new cars have all this and more going on.


The things you mentioned are normally used while the car is running. That wouldn't be a drain on the battery. They're also low-powered devices and wouldn't drain much power at all. My iPod will run all day on the tiny battery it has in it. My cell phone will last almost a week on its small battery. These batteries have nothing compared to the capacity of a car battery, which is really beside the point since they run off the alternator while the car is running. But even if the car was off, a car battery should power those things for a long time.

While it may look like a lot when you see all these cord hanging from the cigarette lighter, in reality the current draw from them is very low, much lower than actually using a cigarette lighter.
 

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Makes perfect sense.

As far as any conspiracy, there is no incentive at all for a manufacturer to put in a quality batter. Just like they isn't an incentive to put nice tires on them. It just eats into the cost to produce the vehicle.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
I'd go with people buying cheap crap, whether they realise it or not.

The last battery in my car lasted 9 years. To claim people should expect 2 years out of any battery because they plugged in an iPod or a GPS is ridiculous, what a crock.

Does your car have a nav system running constantly? A DVD/video game system running constantly for the kids? Two or three cell phones plugged in along with your iPod? A high powered stereo?

I wouldn't call it a crock. Many new cars have all this and more going on.


The things you mentioned are normally used while the car is running. That wouldn't be a drain on the battery. They're also low-powered devices and wouldn't drain much power at all. My iPod will run all day on the tiny battery it has in it. My cell phone will last almost a week on its small battery. These batteries have nothing compared to the capacity of a car battery, which is really beside the point since they run off the alternator while the car is running. But even if the car was off, a car battery should power those things for a long time.

OK, this is one of those things I know little about. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't everything always run off the battery, and the alternator constantly charges the battery?
 

Aikouka

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As for those that claim good luck with Wal-Mart batteries, the inclusion of Wal-Mart was meant to infer cheap batteries not necessarily that they were from Wal-Mart. Although, I have had and seen on a personal level the best luck with batteries with more expensive brands such as Die Hard. My own personal trials, although maybe the other battery was just bad... who knows.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
I'd go with people buying cheap crap, whether they realise it or not.

The last battery in my car lasted 9 years. To claim people should expect 2 years out of any battery because they plugged in an iPod or a GPS is ridiculous, what a crock.

Does your car have a nav system running constantly? A DVD/video game system running constantly for the kids? Two or three cell phones plugged in along with your iPod? A high powered stereo?

I wouldn't call it a crock. Many new cars have all this and more going on.


The things you mentioned are normally used while the car is running. That wouldn't be a drain on the battery. They're also low-powered devices and wouldn't drain much power at all. My iPod will run all day on the tiny battery it has in it. My cell phone will last almost a week on its small battery. These batteries have nothing compared to the capacity of a car battery, which is really beside the point since they run off the alternator while the car is running. But even if the car was off, a car battery should power those things for a long time.

OK, this is one of those things I know little about. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't everything always run off the battery, and the alternator constantly charges the battery?

When the car is running, the alternator provides electricity to the car. The battery is in the circuit, too, but it shouldn't feel any drain unless you're using electricity faster than the alternator can produce it. In that case, it will suck that power from the system, including the battery. But an alternator can produce quite a bit of power.
 

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
I'd go with people buying cheap crap, whether they realise it or not.

The last battery in my car lasted 9 years. To claim people should expect 2 years out of any battery because they plugged in an iPod or a GPS is ridiculous, what a crock.

Does your car have a nav system running constantly? A DVD/video game system running constantly for the kids? Two or three cell phones plugged in along with your iPod? A high powered stereo?

I wouldn't call it a crock. Many new cars have all this and more going on.


The things you mentioned are normally used while the car is running. That wouldn't be a drain on the battery. They're also low-powered devices and wouldn't drain much power at all. My iPod will run all day on the tiny battery it has in it. My cell phone will last almost a week on its small battery. These batteries have nothing compared to the capacity of a car battery, which is really beside the point since they run off the alternator while the car is running. But even if the car was off, a car battery should power those things for a long time.

OK, this is one of those things I know little about. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't everything always run off the battery, and the alternator constantly charges the battery?

When the car is running, the alternator provides electricity to the car. The battery is in the circuit, too, but it shouldn't feel any drain unless you're using electricity faster than the alternator can produce it. In that case, it will suck that power from the system, including the battery. But an alternator can produce quite a bit of power.

Ah, well maybe alternators are a little underpowered?

It also lists the electric radiator fans that run for a long time after a car is stopped. That would be a drain as well. My VW runs that fan everytime I stop in the summer for quite a while.

I think the point is that there is more day to day draining and recharging of the battery than there was before.