why cant we bring back the ccc?

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Nebor

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okay okay, but why not just skip the part of having Group A dig holes, and Group B fill holes, and let's just have somebody bomb pearl harbor again, and this time, let some other school of economics take the credit, keynesianism has just gotten so blah lately.

Let's pin it on the Inuits this time.
 

brandonbull

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No, not at all. I just think that if we, the taxpayers, are going to spend money we ought get a return on it. A CCC type program just might do that.

I bet you think FDR's programs got the USA out of the depression.....you would be wrong.

He programs didn't get the US out of the depression but without a lot of the construction projects we would have been screwed in WW2.
 

JS80

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I have no idea but if they didn't show up for work they would not get a government check. I have this feeling that hunger is a great motivator. I could be wrong.

What politician would ever agree to such a scheme?
 

Ausm

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I have no idea but if they didn't show up for work they would not get a government check. I have this feeling that hunger is a great motivator. I could be wrong.

Your not wrong the poverty rate is growing at a rapid rate in the United States and unfortunately these people have to go on Welfare to survive.
 

chucky2

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Looking into CCC or a WPA plan to help decrease the unemployment rate.

Mmmm...but if the Dem's are suggesting it, we need some very specific details - that won't change (no bait and switch) - on it before it could even be contemplated. When it comes to "free" and Dem's, one can never be too careful...

Chuck
 

quest55720

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Looking into CCC or a WPA plan to help decrease the unemployment rate.

Blame Obama he had his chance. He had a near trillion dollars to spend and he let Pelosi and Reid do it for him. It was Pelosi and Reid who instead of infrastructure spent it on state aid, pet projects and tax cuts. Obama had his chance to lead and do it his way. Instead he let Pelosi do the leading for him.
 

Ausm

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Blame Obama he had his chance. He had a near trillion dollars to spend and he let Pelosi and Reid do it for him. It was Pelosi and Reid who instead of infrastructure spent it on state aid, pet projects and tax cuts. Obama had his chance to lead and do it his way. Instead he let Pelosi do the leading for him.

I have to agree that I too have been baffled by his hands off approach to leading.
 

momeNt

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I have to agree that I too have been baffled by his hands off approach to leading.

Maybe Obama should step down for Pelosi then so the dems have a better chance at re-election. All those cows will come home to roost on him once the republican nominee is chosen and its mano a mano.
 

DrPizza

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I'm not necessarily for this idea, however, I think a good way to implement such a program would be like this:

After x number of weeks, you have two choices - your benefits drop to a much lower level, about equal to minimum wage for 40 hours a week, else your benefits go *UP* - you can make MORE money while on unemployment by working for the government. If nothing else, people can learn new skills; sort of like apprenticeships, while working on infrastructure projects. We can even have them working under the guidance of experts in those areas - as I said, as an apprenticeship type program. And, give those experts the ability to fire lazy workers. You either work to earn more money, else you get less money sitting at home watching Springer - i.e. sort out the good workers who want to work from the people milking the system. Reward the milkers with less.
 

ElFenix

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I'm not necessarily for this idea, however, I think a good way to implement such a program would be like this:

After x number of weeks, you have two choices - your benefits drop to a much lower level, about equal to minimum wage for 40 hours a week, else your benefits go *UP* - you can make MORE money while on unemployment by working for the government. If nothing else, people can learn new skills; sort of like apprenticeships, while working on infrastructure projects. We can even have them working under the guidance of experts in those areas - as I said, as an apprenticeship type program. And, give those experts the ability to fire lazy workers. You either work to earn more money, else you get less money sitting at home watching Springer - i.e. sort out the good workers who want to work from the people milking the system. Reward the milkers with less.

what did mike rowe say the deficiency in the skilled trades is? if you're unemployed you can get your unemployment check by showing up to the .gov's workforce retraining program 4 days a week and learning new skills.

also wouldn't mind things like clearing invasive plant species out. 23% of the trees in the houston area are the invasive chinese tallow.
 

chucky2

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You'd have to exempt them from gov provided medical benefits. What'd end up happening is large numbers of those assigned to any type of strenuous job would fake injury, and 'go out on medical'. Then a portion of those would sue for absurd amounts.
 

Lalakai

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A CCC style program will not be implemented because there are a host of private contractors willing to meet every whim of the federal government and make good money doing it. These folks keep the politicians in campaign funds and the politicians keep these folks on the clock. Cutting out the middlemen is akin to communism in the minds or at least in the rhetoric of folks who like the system the way it is.

biggest point though it won't be identified (by politicians) as a reason to not bring back the CCC. I know many farmers that were looking to pay people minimum wage to help with crop harvest, but no one would take the jobs. A good percentage of Americans want the money but don't like the idea of working for it.

The CCC will remain on the trash heap along with truth in politics, transparency in election contributions, and bi-partisan congress.
 

BoberFett

Lifer
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I'm not necessarily for this idea, however, I think a good way to implement such a program would be like this:

After x number of weeks, you have two choices - your benefits drop to a much lower level, about equal to minimum wage for 40 hours a week, else your benefits go *UP* - you can make MORE money while on unemployment by working for the government. If nothing else, people can learn new skills; sort of like apprenticeships, while working on infrastructure projects. We can even have them working under the guidance of experts in those areas - as I said, as an apprenticeship type program. And, give those experts the ability to fire lazy workers. You either work to earn more money, else you get less money sitting at home watching Springer - i.e. sort out the good workers who want to work from the people milking the system. Reward the milkers with less.

Government sponsored apprenticeship would be a tremendous success, I think, and would gladly support such a thing.