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Why can't the US leave those countries alone who don't want a war?

you mean countries that ignore their commitments to NATO? hmmm

why don't we just go ahead and dissolve NATO while we're at it then.
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Originally posted by: ndee
Why can't they just accept it, that they don't want a war? For example Germany or France.
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Why don't countries that lack balls leave the security council?
 
Do you mean those countries that has ulterior motives like billions of dollars of investments in Iraq???
 
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Do you mean those countries that has ulterior motives like billions of dollars of investments in Iraq???
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Or like our country, which has billions of dollars of potential investments in Iraq if we "liberate" them?
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You know, this rhetoric really is starting to get to me, this "holier than thou" attitude our country has against everyone else. If they don't want to go along with us, fine. Let them be. It's their affairs and they most certainly have the right to decide as their government and their citizens choose.
 
Originally posted by: numark
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Do you mean those countries that has ulterior motives like billions of dollars of investments in Iraq???
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Or like our country, which has billions of dollars of potential investments in Iraq if we "liberate" them?
rolleye.gif
You know, this rhetoric really is starting to get to me, this "holier than thou" attitude our country has against everyone else. If they don't want to go along with us, fine. Let them be. It's their affairs and they most certainly have the right to decide as their government and their citizens choose.
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It isn't that they don't want to go with us... it's that they are supposedly our 'allies' , and are actively going against us.
 
Originally posted by: numark
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Do you mean those countries that has ulterior motives like billions of dollars of investments in Iraq???
Click to expand...

Or like our country, which has billions of dollars of potential investments in Iraq if we "liberate" them?
rolleye.gif
You know, this rhetoric really is starting to get to me, this "holier than thou" attitude our country has against everyone else. If they don't want to go along with us, fine. Let them be. It's their affairs and they most certainly have the right to decide as their government and their citizens choose.
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No, they don't have a right to choose that. They are part of an alliance and they are expected to hold up their end of the bargain. It's not like they can just say "we're gonna sit this one out". No, in an alliance, everyone helps everyone.
 
And on the other hand, why is the US considered "Isolationist" if we go on with the war without the U.N.? 30 countries are ready to support us militarily. How is that isolationist?
 
Why can't the US leave those countries alone who don't want a war?
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For the same reason they couldn't leave the U.S. out of World Wars 1 and 2 when we declared we didn't want to get involved in their war and declared our neutrality. I guess the Lusitania doesn't ring a bell for you though.
 
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: ndee
Why can't they just accept it, that they don't want a war? For example Germany or France.
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Why don't countries that lack balls leave the security council?
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Amen to that! They should get back to sorting out their internal affairs. For example, Germany figuring out how to pay for it's babying nanny sate with 10% unemployment and France figuring out they will surrender the next time around.
 
Originally posted by: glenn1
Why can't the US leave those countries alone who don't want a war?
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For the same reason they couldn't leave the U.S. out of World Wars 1 and 2 when we declared we didn't want to get involved in their war and declared our neutrality. I guess the Lusitania doesn't ring a bell for you though.
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Little place in Hawaii called Pearl Harbor too
 
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: numark
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Do you mean those countries that has ulterior motives like billions of dollars of investments in Iraq???
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Or like our country, which has billions of dollars of potential investments in Iraq if we "liberate" them?
rolleye.gif
You know, this rhetoric really is starting to get to me, this "holier than thou" attitude our country has against everyone else. If they don't want to go along with us, fine. Let them be. It's their affairs and they most certainly have the right to decide as their government and their citizens choose.
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No, they don't have a right to choose that. They are part of an alliance and they are expected to hold up their end of the bargain. It's not like they can just say "we're gonna sit this one out". No, in an alliance, everyone helps everyone.
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NATO has the obligation to protect countries that are actively under attack within the alliance. The US asked the NATO members to send troops and money to Turkey, which last time I checked (a few minutes ago) was in fact not under attack. In fact, they're not even in any danger at the moment of being attacked. There's no Iraqi troops lining up on the border to attack Turkish military. As a result, these countries are quite fine in refusing to send their troops to aid a country that's not under attack. We sure wouldn't send troops to their countries if they just happened to ask for it and weren't actively being attacked by anyone.
 
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: glenn1
Why can't the US leave those countries alone who don't want a war?
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For the same reason they couldn't leave the U.S. out of World Wars 1 and 2 when we declared we didn't want to get involved in their war and declared our neutrality. I guess the Lusitania doesn't ring a bell for you though.
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Little place in Hawaii called Pearl Harbor too
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You mean people attacking PH dragged the US into the war?
 
i think that most everyone here has told you my thoughts too.
if these other countries do not want to play with the big dogs then their asses should get out of the game.
 
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: glenn1
Why can't the US leave those countries alone who don't want a war?
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For the same reason they couldn't leave the U.S. out of World Wars 1 and 2 when we declared we didn't want to get involved in their war and declared our neutrality. I guess the Lusitania doesn't ring a bell for you though.
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Little place in Hawaii called Pearl Harbor too
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You mean people attacking PH dragged the US into the war?
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with Japan....I do believe we were in the process of negotiating with them before they kicked us in the balls....Cause and effect...

backstab = b!tchslap
 
Originally posted by: gwlam12
war is ugly and should always be the last option.
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How did I know you would be from California?


War is a necessary evil sometimes. Maybe if we would have given all of Europe to Hitler as well as shipped all the jews to him we would have not had to fight a war.
 
Originally posted by: numark
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Do you mean those countries that has ulterior motives like billions of dollars of investments in Iraq???
Click to expand...

Or like our country, which has billions of dollars of potential investments in Iraq if we "liberate" them?
rolleye.gif
You know, this rhetoric really is starting to get to me, this "holier than thou" attitude our country has against everyone else. If they don't want to go along with us, fine. Let them be. It's their affairs and they most certainly have the right to decide as their government and their citizens choose.
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I wouldn't have any problems with them if they protested without hidden agenda.
 
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