Why can Osama produce videos during the presidential election and not now?

cKGunslinger

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Do you believe Osama being alive and well is a 'boost' to Bush's popularity? To me, it brings the failure to apprehend the claimed orchestrator of 9/11 to light.
 

dahunan

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well... the video helped him during the elections

He ran his campaign on fear

now his supporters will say... that we need a stronger presence in the ME if we are ever to capture Osama

He has convinced people that the only way to do things is with bombs and 100's of billions of dollars
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Genx87
As opposed to talk and billions?

and this has what to do with the op?

Replying to your rhetoric. Are you saying your Rhetoric also has little to do with the OP?
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Genx87
As opposed to talk and billions?

and this has what to do with the op?

Replying to your rhetoric. Are you saying your Rhetoric also has little to do with the OP?

the op came first.. and it is not rhetoric.. it is fact

tell us the amounts spent in Iraq versus Afg

 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Genx87
As opposed to talk and billions?

and this has what to do with the op?

Replying to your rhetoric. Are you saying your Rhetoric also has little to do with the OP?

the op came first.. and it is not rhetoric.. it is fact

tell us the amounts spent in Iraq versus Afg


What does the amount of money spent on two seperate fronts add to your rhetoric?


 

yllus

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So...

1) Osama is working with Bush, but nobody knows about it or can prove it
2) Osama and Bush are enemies, but Osama's people are really Bush's people and release videos when he needs the boost
3) Osama and Bush are enemies, and Osama's people try to release the videos but Bush's stranglehold over the media and Internet is just that good
4) Osama is captured and they force him to make videos when Bush needs one
5) Osama is dead and they use CGI to make fake videos when Bush needs one

Which one are you implying?
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: yllus
So...

1) Osama is working with Bush, but nobody knows about it or can prove it
2) Osama and Bush are enemies, but Osama's people are really Bush's people and release videos when he needs the boost
3) Osama and Bush are enemies, and Osama's people try to release the videos but Bush's stranglehold over the media and Internet is just that good
4) Osama is captured and they force him to make videos when Bush needs one
5) Osama is dead and they use CGI to make fake videos when Bush needs one

Which one are you implying?

I think it probably depends on the phase of the moon..
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: dahunan
afraid to even answer the original question? :confused:

Actually I am more interested in conversing about your bombs and billions rhetoric.

 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: dahunan
afraid to even answer the original question? :confused:

Actually I am more interested in conversing about your bombs and billions rhetoric.

...than I am in finding Osama... right?

 

yllus

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How about you answer it and pick one of the five possible scenarios? Or are you pretending not to have read my post in this thread?
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: dahunan
afraid to even answer the original question? :confused:

Actually I am more interested in conversing about your bombs and billions rhetoric.

...than I am in finding Osama... right?

vs the previous x amount of administrations talk and billions.

 

dahunan

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totally avoiding the whole reason this thread is even here???


anyhow... my personal opinion of Bush aside... I do honestly wonder if others feel there is any coincidence regarding the timing of Osama news and appearances??
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: dahunan
totally avoiding the whole reason this thread is even here???


anyhow... my personal opinion of Bush aside... I do honestly wonder if others feel there is any coincidence regarding the timing of Osama news and appearances??

You are the one who said "bombs and billions".

You derailed your own thread.

 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: dahunan
totally avoiding the whole reason this thread is even here???


anyhow... my personal opinion of Bush aside... I do honestly wonder if others feel there is any coincidence regarding the timing of Osama news and appearances??

You are the one who said "bombs and billions".

You derailed your own thread.


Huh

do you see bombs and billions in the first post or the title? selective diversionary tactics?

BTW, it should be 100's of billions
 

EagleKeeper

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Since the videos are provided by the Arabic news media, then it must mean that he slips into the West on Bush's invite to make the videos and then distributes then via the Arabic stations.

Because if the videos were provided by the West, then it would be Bush and company that is producing then on an as needed basis and publishing them.




One of the above must be the reason because otherwise:

The OP is trying to generate a Bush bashing trolling thread.

And of course the OP would never stoop to do that.
 

EagleKeeper

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The possiblitly that he was producing the vids in order to influence the election (by showing a percieved weakness in the US abilities to catch him) would never be a reason.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
The possiblitly that he was producing the vids in order to influence the election (by showing a percieved weakness in the US abilities to catch him) would never be a reason.


What influence would that have on our elections? Who/which member would it help?

Anyhow.. I am actually interested to know if anyone else finds anything strange or odd about timing of Osama news...
 

surreal1221

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There certainly is a tie between the two, Alex Jones details it pretty well in his latest documentary. . . or whatever you want to call it.

Keep the blindfolds on America, please do.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
The possiblitly that he was producing the vids in order to influence the election (by showing a percieved weakness in the US abilities to catch him) would never be a reason.


What influence would that have on our elections? Who/which member would it help?

Many in the US and world felt that a weakness of Bush was that he could not get OBL and should not have turned toward Iraq. Kerry was one that was implying the OBL should have been the priority.

By exposing Bush's weakness in performing this object (essientaly thumbing his nose at Bush & US) via the vids, OBL may have been attempting to encouraging the removal of Bush and putting in place Kerry and the Dems (who were acting more like Doves). He was trying to show weakness in the admin. Similar to what was happening with Carter/Iran

Bush's initiatives were making it more difficult for OBL's people to move around; remove/weaken those policies through a change of admin could benefit OBL.