why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free

melly

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do you believe in living together before marriage? do you even believe in marriage? i always thought if someone wanted to live with the S.O. that is his/her choice, though personally that i'd never do it. but for the past few years i've been adjusting my views on life and i'm not even certain that i believe in the institute of marriage. maybe i'd rather not break something that doesn't need fixing. knowing that a guy would love me enough to committ his life to me is amazing, but i guess when you're surrounded by divorce and discouraging statistics, it seems that no one takes vows seriously these days.

take for instance kurt russell and goldie hawn. longtime lovers whom to my knowledge never married.

i've noticed quite a few online folks talking about engagements and marriage lately. and lately, all i ever hear at work is 'don't get married. don't make that mistake!' so i'm beginning to wonder what the dilly, yo!

 

pyonir

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hmmmm i dunno. i'm not a christian, so that doesn't hold any weight with me. i guess if the right woman came along i would want to show everyone how much we did care for eachother by getting married. and it makes a lot of things easier (buying a house, insurance, benefits at work).

i guess it all depends on how the woman feels, it is a mutual decision ya know...i can't say for sure without her input.
 

chiwawa626

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hey man that title is a ripoff.....i wanted to talk about cows and i thought there was a way to get free milk?
 

Soybomb

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Sure I believe in living together before marriage, and no I don't necessarily believe marriage is all that important. I'm not really a religious person, and I view marriage as mostly a religious thing. On the other hand, while it may be religious, it is also a pledge to your partner of faith and commitment. Personally I would be fine with marriage but I would also be fine without. I feel like I can commit without involving a formal marriage
 

cmdavid

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id have to say it depends on the two people making the decision also.. i know that as a christian that if i commit myself to somebody through marriage, we would both be committing ourselves..
committing has become so unimportant in today's society though i feel... for example, do you know what you're doing tomorrow night yet?? i dont.. people don't like to commit themselves to things because they want to wait until the best available option comes along.. they wanna leave all options open.. they dont wanna make their decisions until all options have been presented before them and they get to pick which one they want.... and thats what is wrong w/ marriage today i think... because when a man says yes to marriage to one lady, that means hes saying no to every other woman out there.... and its a tough decision to make when you put it that way.... the statistics are very sad and definitely discouraging... but i hope that i will be able to lead a successful marriage/family/life... i mean, i work hard and my parents have worked hard to instill strong morals and instill disciplines in me, so that if i ever do make that commitment, that i know i will keep it... yes there are a lot of people who dont take vows seriously these days, but i know that when i do, i will not be one of them... its too important and my parents very strong marriage has been too much an important part of my life for me to just "throw out the window" with divorce..... now i dont condemn divorce, there are circumstances that i think should lead to divorce, and hopefully i wont ever have to personally deal with that...
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: her209
It takes 2 to make milk ;)

Depends on your definition of "milk" :Q

<---- *ducks flying trout*

Marriage is an artificial cultural institution; make of it what you will.
 

Nefrodite

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whats that mean anyways? a womans like a cow? she gets bought, and then used for her milk, and is eventually slaughtered for her meat when she becomes too old to be useful??


so you marry to have sex... ;) how sad heheehhe


does a cow really deserve an orgasm? its bought and paid for.. why bother;)
 

etalns

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some people just like to put it in the books, not to mention the financial benefits it gives you ;)
 

yakko

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I believe in living together first because two people may be fine in a relationship as long as they don't live in the same house.
 

Que-TiP

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i think living together is a good idea. Why get married, then later find out that you hate that person. Do it beforehand.
 

PCHO

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I think marriage has turned into more of a legal thing than religious thing. Here are quite a few benefits to tying the knot nowadays, besides of course the consumation of the love between two people.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: chiwawa626
Dont women naturaly produce milk?

There is the free milk that you asked about..Now you have to find the donater

I believe in "living in sin" before you get married because some people just can't live together because of various habits and the likes..I'd rather find out before the wedding than after..The same is true for premarital nookie.

Mel, you gave one example..can you even think of another? Kurt Russel and Goldie Hawn situation is a freak. Marriage is a commitment and a trust..a partnership if you will. Milking the cow..is just fun and basically no strings attached nor any commitments. It works fine for the bull and heifer until their skin starts drooping and their udders start sagging..

Lest I remind you of the vows one takes..for better or worse, in sickness and in health, in teddy or jello, till death do you part..
 

Peetoeng

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There's no such thing is free milk! Even when you're not legally married, you have to put up with her kvetching and she with your b#tching.

When you buy a cow, you got the chance to milk it, not just the milk. I don't drink milk, but love steaks. I don't buy a cow for steaks, I buy steaks. I am neffing here.
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StageLeft

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but i guess when you're surrounded by divorce and discouraging statistics, it seems that no one takes vows seriously these days.
Depends how you look at it. Since the divorce rate is 50% you're equally surrounded by successful marriages, aren't you?

Sure many of them suck but a survey I recall said that the happiest people were those who were married, followed by single people, followed by widows. Take a chance in life.
and lately, all i ever hear at work is 'don't get married. don't make that mistake!'
No offense intended, but where do you work and with whom? Burn outs or nice happy people? Every single person in my office is married except for one divorced guy and I think we're all glad we did.
 

tcsenter

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i've noticed quite a few online folks talking about engagements and marriage lately. and lately, all i ever hear at work is 'don't get married. don't make that mistake!' so i'm beginning to wonder what the dilly, yo!
That is a very unhealthy and reactionary way to cope with failure and disappointment. Instead of learning something positive and moving on with their life, they decide never to get married again as though the institution itself is somehow faulty.

Many people, men especially, react the same way the first time they have their heart broken. We all know one person, usually a male, who dealt with his first broken heart by swearing they would never love anyone again, so they deliberately surround themselves with an emotional barrier to 'protect' themselves from getting hurt. They become rather self-centered and indifferent, women become like shoes, to be tossed aside and replaced periodically. They'd rather be the hurter than the hurtee.

Both are negative coping and defense mechanisms that any good psychoanalyst can spot coming a mile away. Its quite unfortunate how many people never progress emotionally passed the age of 16 or 18. They're still making all the same mistakes, making all the same reactionary decisions, into their 30's and 40's.

Doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result is one definition of insanity.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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It may or may not be healthy. Sex before marriage, no. But living together, as long as I'm not too tempted, is fine with me.

nik
 

Cattlegod

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marriage is bunk.

i don't believe in it, i don't believe in any religion.

i'm agnostic.

however, it is most logical to get married for the insurance cuts and other financial gains along with better public acceptance.

i don't want to marry because i find it just as rediculous as clapping is. however, i will marry, just as i will continue to clap.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: Cattlegod
marriage is bunk.

i don't believe in it, i don't believe in any religion.

i'm agnostic.

however, it is most logical to get married for the insurance cuts and other financial gains along with better public acceptance.

i don't want to marry because i find it just as rediculous as clapping is. however, i will marry, just as i will continue to clap.
Poor cattlegod ;) It brings a lot of people a sense of security in their life. Knowing that they are going to go home and somebody will be there and with that person they can plan the rest of their lives.
 

Cattlegod

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
marriage is bunk.

i don't believe in it, i don't believe in any religion.

i'm agnostic.

however, it is most logical to get married for the insurance cuts and other financial gains along with better public acceptance.

i don't want to marry because i find it just as rediculous as clapping is. however, i will marry, just as i will continue to clap.
Poor cattlegod ;) It brings a lot of people a sense of security in their life. Knowing that they are going to go home and somebody will be there and with that person they can plan the rest of their lives.

i'm a very cynical man :)

 

linuxboy

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Originally posted by: Shelly21
Why hire a farmer to milk the cow when you can do it youself right? :)


You do realize that modern technology has produced milking machines far superior to the original manual technique in terms of efficiency and cost, don't you?


Cheers ! :)
 

Shelly21

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Ah, but some people still prefers the milk it slowly, instead of the inhumane way to treat a cow with machine. :)

 

Electric Amish

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I think the whole idea of licensing and marriage is kinda stupid, but the wife likes the idea, so that's what we did.

amish