Why bother with a new Celeron?

[Rigoletto]

I hear a lot about the Celeron but I have come to the conclusion that it is a waste of time, even to overclock.
Look at SYSMark99 scores of typical PC systems at 128MB I have got reviews of in magazines or internet comparisons (I do try to be careful about the methodology and have to do some extrapolations hem hem):

Athlon classic 600= 8.79
Celeron 600@900= 9.02

Athlon classic 900= 11.67
PIII 900 (133FSB)= 10.94

Given that Duron comes to within 5% of the classic Athlon (not thunderbird) why bother with the Celeron? Even pushing it to the max, it's been NEUTERED by Intel, and is only for the label- conscious and the gullible in terms of compatibility. Add the extra cost of intel and overclocking cooling and the deal isn't looking so hot even if your CPU feels it.

 

[Sohcan]

I would have built a Duron system, but that would have required a new motherboard (and probably memory, since I have cheepo-PC100). I didn't feel like spending $150 for a socket-A motherboard, $150 for a new stick of 128MB PC100, and ~$70 for the Duron, since I'm planning on going DDR + Palamino sometime next year. Spending $75 on a C566 @ 850 was the next obvious choice.

 

[hungrypete]

because even if it's not the performer AMDs chips can be, it's still a good chip and if you're already running an intel platform it's a cheaper upgrade. It's also pretty easy to kill the new AMDs if you don't install the heatsink right. Don't get me wrong, I'm an AMD fan, but Intel still has plenty to offer consumers. It's just not King of the Hill anymore.

 

[WetSprocket]

The only thing I can see is that with a cheap 810 board you can make a pretty decent business machine. I have built 10 of these for businesses around my area and havent had any problems and everyone is satisfied. It just depends on what your going to do with it.

 

[hungrypete]

great sig, wetsprocket

 

[AdamK47]

A P3 900 on a 133MHz bus? Huh?
You should have done a better job of pulling numbers out of your crack.
Whattadork!

 

[Rigoletto]

..hem hem I cheated, Mr. Abusive. I couldn't find a 900 but could other PIIIs and had to fiddle to reach an equal MHz with the Athlon, being as generous as poss to Intel.
So I must pull numbers out of my crack whilst you take things up yours? Ha ha.

 

[AdamK47]

Oh, I get it. You had one of those engineering sample P3 Coppermines and set the mutiplier to 13.5 and the bus speed to 66.67MHz to get that 900MHz Athlon Classic with its 64-bit 1/3 cache speed to beat the Coppermine with it's 256-bit full speed cache. Thats the only way I see the classic Athlon beating a similar clocked Coppermine.

In Anand's own words.

 

[bozack]

with my current setup I would rather save money and get a 633 celeron than waste it on a duron setup, and as someone said before durons seem kind of fragile with the whole heat issue. At work the users beat the crap out of the intels and they take it well, I have been overclocking a 300a for the past two years with just a stock HS fan and it runs the same as it did when I first bought it.