Why bosses can ignore what you say

moshquerade

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because they don't have to answer to anyone.

I heard a so-called expert make that statement this morning on some talk radio. Do you agree with him?
 

CRXican

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In just about every case there is someone higher than your boss so you could always complian to them if your direct supervisor doesn't listen.
 

Insomniator

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I am not looking forward to having my first bad boss.

..are there even bosses in IT? I haven't really seen one yet.
 

BoomerD

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Sort of I agree...they are usually at the top of the "food chain," at least in that company...so they don't answer to anyone else, but in a corporate setting, like tmirv sez...everyone answers to someone...sooner or later.
 

KB

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It depends on has transpired. Can the company get sued? then your boss must listen to what you say i.e. sexual harassment.
 

Kadarin

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If the boss doesn't have to answer to anyone, then the organization as a whole is dysfunctional.
 
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If he acts like he is going to ignore something I consider vital, I happen to suddenly recall it and bring it to his attention when his boss happens to be standing there. ;)
 

dakels

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A good manager listens to their employees and team. Whether they choose to heed their advice is up to them but it should always be considered.
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
because they don't have to answer to anyone.

I heard a so-called expert make that statement this morning on some talk radio. Do you agree with him?

I do. I basically ignore most requests of me because the people making them are idiots :)
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Adam8281
Because the person he answers to doesn't care if he ignores you.
This is why it makes sense.

The boss "doesn't have to answer to anyone". Unless you go over his head about it, and who does?, then he doesn't have to answer to anyone about ignoring you.

And then even if you did go over his head who says anyone is going to care.
 

Xavier434

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They get to ignore me a whole hell of a lot more than I get to ignore them without consequence. Isn't that all that really matters?
 

Oyeve

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Thats why I put my boss's email on every spam/porn/religious email list. :)
 

SMOGZINN

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Besides my day job I run a sole propriater ship with 3 employees in a work at will state, I don't have to listen to anybody I don't want.
You can sue me, and I might have to pay for it, but I don't have to listen to you.

my business = my money = my way.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: SMOGZINN
Besides my day job I run a sole propriater ship with 3 employees in a work at will state, I don't have to listen to anybody I don't want.
You can sue me, and I might have to pay for it, but I don't have to listen to you.

my business = my money = my way.

this reinforces my original post.
 

SacrosanctFiend

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Originally posted by: SMOGZINN
Besides my day job I run a sole propriater ship with 3 employees in a work at will state, I don't have to listen to anybody I don't want.
You can sue me, and I might have to pay for it, but I don't have to listen to you.

my business = my money = my way.

You still have to listen to the government if you want to keep your business license.

E.g. TNDOL can take away your license for employing undocumented workers.
 

JDMnAR1

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As long as you are willing to suffer the consequences, you too can ignore anyone and everyone you so desire. ;)
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Years ago, I worked for the largest food service corporation in the world. I was a mid level manager in the most profitable upscale division in the company. Corporate policies were costing us money, efficiency and, good employees. Over the course of several years, I wrote up multiple recommendations to address the problems being caused by the policies detailing specific issues and giving my solutions. I presented them to my manager who acted impressed with the work I had done and promised to give it his full attention.

Six months later, no change and my manager had left. I passed my recommendations onto his manager and was told "these are our corporate policies...love it or leave it." At a corporate training seminar, I ran into the devision vice president and discussed the policies with him. His reply was that the policies were decided at the highest level and couldn't be adapted/changed because of the business conditions at one location. Say what? The cornerstone of any successful food service operation is flexibility and timely response to changing demands and trends.

The division vice president did however inspire me with his lack of understanding of food service so, I reworked my recommendations plugging in actual data from our operation showing annual costs and giving savings if the policies were adapted/modified for our location and sent it to the vice president of operations for the entire company.

Now, a year passed since I made my original report, there are new policies which further hinder efficiency and operations. I received word from my divisional vice president that the report had been kicked back to him and that "policies would not be changed to fit one location regardless of benefit."

I made the decision to leave corporate America soon after.
 

takeru

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Originally posted by: manlymatt83
Originally posted by: trmiv
No. Everyone answers to someone.

this

as true as this is, its not always all that great. i made a complaint one time to the manager of my supervisor, he just forwards the complaint to my supervisor, and i get suspended over a vague technicality... just because there are people above your boss, doesn't mean those people are not total assholes either.