Why boost is fluctuating like that on Msi Twin Frozr 770.

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litwicki22

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Hey.I have a Msi Gtx 770 Gaming. I have a some problem.
I want just to know:) Why sometimes my GPU downclock to 1123 mhz with temp 79C , and sometimes are boost 1136mhz with 81C temp? Its not normal?
For example. I am in Metro LL. When i am standing in one place in game and even dont touch mouse or keyboard, clocks of GPU fluctuating like crazy.

I dont OC card. All is default. Game settings with : SSAA4x
( Fluctuating of GPU mhz are : 1110, 1097, 1136, 1084 mhz )


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Maybe owner of the same card, will comment?



I just checked in GPU-Z reason of that boost downclocks. And there is

PERFCAP: THRM ( Limited by temperature limit )


This can be reason to RMA that card if on stock settings i got that message "PERFCAP: THRM ( Limited by temperature limit ) " ?

Sometimes in that game i dont getting default BOOST (1110 mhz ) . So thats why i am asking you.
 

blackened23

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Apparently, you have no idea how boost 2.0 works even though it's been explained to you a gazillion times. I almost feel like you're trolling since you've posted this same thing so many times on other forums, and people respond to you and point out that your card is doing expected GPU BOOST behavior, and yet you completely ignore it while asking the same question incessantly. You've been given an answer about 100 times, this is normal boost behavior.
 
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blackened23

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This has been said before, but here goes, again - When you hit 80C, your card will downclock in 13mhz increments. This is normal behavior so that the card does not exceed thermal limits. You will also downclock when exceeding available TDP or power, again in 13mhz increments.

To prevent this, you can use manual fan, change your throttle priorization, or improve the cooling within your PC. When you hit 80C your card is SUPPOSED to throttle. Kepler likes staying below 80C, and if you hit 80C it will downclock to maintain below 80C. This is normal and expected behavior. The intention is to prevent the card from overheating, and also to prevent any sort of RMA issues associated with excessively high temps/voltage.
 

notty22

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You could be in a 110F degree room with the card in a ITX case for all anyone knows.
You are 27mhz off advertised boost clocks. TPU lists only core clock as a specification for example. If you are looking for legalize and someones permission to RMA, you may or may not ever get your wish. But your RMA would probably be denied. blackened23 states you know all this, I'm sure he's correct.

Many reviews state how turbo2.0 works. The card operates around that temp threshold by design to limit sound/noise. It's a acceptable working temperature that can allow for very quiet gaming. Noise has been a public issue. That temperature also does not lead to power inefficiency. The system dances around that temperature again by design.
You can choose to have the systems operate at a lower temperature with manual intervention.

edit: edit before posting.
I don't have this card or it's ilk :)
I looked and saw you had similar issues with older cards and older/other implementations of how this all works. Again, like before, you seem to be looking for support/excuses to explain behavior that is normal.

Are you having a good or bad gaming experience? What are your goals? To see numbers, clock numbers, that exceed or exactly match reviews only!? Your motives are lost on me. We are discussing a matter of a couple FPS in any outcome. Whether 25mhz higher or lower. Numbers that would hardly effect your gaming experiences.
 

litwicki22

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This is my business , how much treads i will start. Its not your interest. So keep off -.-

Just dont write posts.



Lets back to topic then.


Can somebody explain me that. IN GPUZ says DEFAULT BOOST: 1110.TRUE? So this is value that i had guaranted to achieve? Or only GPU CLOCK 1058 mhz is guaranted? Hope i explain much brighter.


So 1110mhz value is "MUST GET" ?
 
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boxleitnerb

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Base clock is guaranteed. Everything else is dependent on factors like temperature and power consumption.
 

Lagittaja

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This is my business , how much treads i will start. Its not your interest. So keep off -.-

Just dont write posts.

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It becomes my interest when you spam this same crap to other forums when you don't get the answer you WANT.

There is nothing wrong with your card. Go ahead and RMA it, hopefully they'll charge you 100$ for being ignorant.
 

litwicki22

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It becomes my interest when you spam this same crap to other forums when you don't get the answer you WANT.

There is nothing wrong with your card. Go ahead and RMA it, hopefully they'll charge you 100$ for being ignorant.

<You made my day with that picture> Ok,I will be not discuss with you. Just dont reply to me.


Ok so i repeat:
So why on GPUZ they saying DEFAULT 1110mhz, then?
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blackened23

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This guy has to be trolling. HE HAS asked this same question literally 100s of other times on other forums.
 
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Keysplayr

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Just report it as forum spamming. It can't be anything else at this point, and the patience of our members here trying to explain things to him would have satisfied any other poster.
At this point, it's just a plain refusal to understand and perpetuate this farce.
 

boxleitnerb

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So why on GPUZ they saying DEFAULT 1110mhz, then?
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Because it is the average boost that Nvidia observed in their testing. They don't guarantee these results, but they say it is reasonable to expect these clocks in an average gaming environment. Non-default would be overclocking ;)
 

blackened23

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Posted by Lagittaja. I'm sure there are more as well - he's received "trolling" complaints on multiple forums about this very same question.

I'd give the guy some leeway if English isn't his native language, but I just can't fathom that anyone has english issues to an extent to where he receives the same answer over and over and can't comprehend it. It has been mentioned in nearly every thread that he has created, that it is normal and expected behaviour. So I don't know why he keeps asking the same question incessantly when he's received the same answer so many times.

With that being the case, I think it's a troll. Maybe i'm wrong, I don't know. But how can someone possibly get the same answer 40+ times and still keep coming back to ask the same question over and over...ugh...
 
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powruser

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I'll bet it's not boosting to the speed you want because of the temperature or airflow in your case. Here's an experiment: take the side panel of your case off and aim the biggest fan you have in your house right at the video card and I'll bet it will boost higher. Boost 2.0 is based on temperature, so it depends on the ambient temperature and the airflow of your case. What my card boosts to might be different from yours, it all depends on temperature.
 

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It has been demonstrated that OP's question has been sufficiently answered here and additionally on other forums (as indicated in the links provided here). Thread is closed.
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