why bash on christians so much?

[Ninjahedge]

Well, as far as exculpation goes it's pretty weak.

"I don't actually think I'm drinking the blood and cannibalizing the body of god, that'd be silly! I just pretend I'm drinking his blood and cannibalizing his body."

Actually, you are eating his Son..........


But who am I to judge.....

 

[HAL9000]

But who am I to judge.....

God?

 

[slayer202]

No. I'm pretty much sure it is accurate. Transubstantiation is fairly unique to the Roman Catholic belif system. I'm 99% sure that Lutherns and most Protestants believe it to be purely symbolic.

See, this is a major issue I always see here on ATOT. Everyone knee-jerks "religion" to be fast-and-true to what is believed in the Roman Catholic Church and base their opinions (or more-so their replied in the thread) based on what the Vatican is saying/preaching.

"Religion" is an awfully vague and encompassing term and should be treated as such.

wtf, catholics believe they are actually drinking and eating blood/flesh? I thought your comment was saying that communion itself was just a catholic thing, not that you were speaking of the meaning.

 

[jonks]

wtf, catholics believe they are actually drinking and eating blood/flesh? I thought your comment was saying that communion itself was just a catholic thing, not that you were speaking of the meaning.

God no, that would be disgusting. They believe they are eating wafers and wine, but that at some indecipherable point AFTER ingestion the food transforms into the actual body and blood of christ. See? Not gross.

 

[HAL9000]

God no, that would be disgusting. They believe they are eating wafers and wine, but that at some indecipherable point AFTER ingestion the food transforms into the actual body and blood of christ. See? Not gross.

Sounds pretty gross.

 

[kami333]

wtf, catholics believe they are actually drinking and eating blood/flesh? I thought your comment was saying that communion itself was just a catholic thing, not that you were speaking of the meaning.

I don't know how many Catholics actually understand transubstantiation, many I've met think it's just symbolism.

(GF and I both went to Catholic school, and that's probably what made us atheists)

 

[darkswordsman17]

OK, but if I'm not back by dawn, call the president!

I'm gonna tell you about an accident, and I don't wanna hear "act of God"!

I was hoping someone would attack his point so that I could say "You leave JackBurton alone. We are in his debt! He showed great courage"

Well, ya see, I'm not saying that I've been everywhere and I've done everything, but I do know it's a pretty amazing planet we live on here, and a man would have to be some kind of FOOL to think we're alone in THIS universe.

 

[Homerboy]

wtf, catholics believe they are actually drinking and eating blood/flesh? I thought your comment was saying that communion itself was just a catholic thing, not that you were speaking of the meaning.

You make my point even more-so. People just point ignorant, knee-jerk responses in such threads. It's just stupid.

 

[Homerboy]

God no, that would be disgusting. They believe they are eating wafers and wine, but that at some indecipherable point AFTER ingestion the food transforms into the actual body and blood of christ. See? Not gross.

I don't think that is entirely accurate either.

 

[SlitheryDee]

God no, that would be disgusting. They believe they are eating wafers and wine, but that at some indecipherable point AFTER ingestion the food transforms into the actual body and blood of christ. See? Not gross.

I thought it was somewhat weirder than that. Like, they believe that they are actually, literally, and factually consuming the body of christ, except that it has been magicked so that it has the exact taste and texture of crackers and wine. In their mind, there's some kind of separation between what something IS and what it's physical attributes are.

if I were to take some amorphous edible "stuff" and fashion it into an exact replica of a t-bone steak that tastes just like a t-bone steak, it still wouldn't be an actual t-bone steak regardless of it's attributes. It would be whatever that amorphous "stuff" is. Likewise, the Eucharist is the body of Christ made indistinguishable from crackers and wine.

 

[slayer202]

You make my point even more-so. People just point ignorant, knee-jerk responses in such threads. It's just stupid.

I don't know what "knee-jerk" reaction you are referring to. maybe you are proving my point

 

[zerocool84]

Also I don't understand how people can actually really believe that the Bible is the word of their god when it was edited by man. We know books were taken out of the Bible. How can man edit god's word??? If those books were in the Bible before then that's what god wanted man to see.

Oh and don't forget the article we had a few months ago that Atheists and non-believers actually knew more about religion than the actual followers.

 

[slayer202]

"I'm sorry, pretending to drink your God's blood on Sundays should not be considered "normal" by any standard. "

That's not believed by all Christian groups. In fact very few I think. It may just be specific to Catholicism. But the rest of the statements are perfectly fine by me.

This makes is seem like you are saying only catholics believe the wine represents the blood of christ. I'm not sure, but it sounds like Catholics are in the "minority" because they take it a step further, Transubstantiation. according to wikipedia,

"According to the Catholic Church, when the bread and wine are consecrated by the priest at Mass, they cease to be bread and wine, and become instead the Most Precious Body and Blood of Christ."

"Transubstantiation (from Latin transsubstantiatio) is the change of the substance of bread and wine into that of the body and blood of Christ, the change that, according to the belief of the Catholic Church, occurs in the Eucharist. It concerns what is changed (the substance of the bread and wine), not how the change is brought about."

pretty sure that basically means, technically, they believe they are eating blood and flesh. The average catholic might not really think they are eating blood and flesh, but that doesn't change the crazy factor causing these "knee jerk" reactions to these idiots

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Oh and don't forget the article we had a few months ago that Atheists and non-believers actually knew more about religion than the actual followers.

I said it earlier, but it bears repeating. This time I'll use the whole quote, as it appears in the KJ Bible:

"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

 

[iGas]

Also I don't understand how people can actually really believe that the Bible is the word of their god when it was edited by man. We know books were taken out of the Bible. How can man edit god's word??? If those books were in the Bible before then that's what god wanted man to see.

Oh and don't forget the article we had a few months ago that Atheists and non-believers actually knew more about religion than the actual followers.

They believe it because it call "blind faith" is the escent of the religious teaching.

The Bible is written by God though enlighten saints & sodomizer priests, hence it can't be question or dispute by non believer.

I have one question for the believers and don't be an ignoramus and say it is freewill.

If there is an omniscient being "God" that is our father (parents), then why does he/she lets his/her children murder each others under his/her name in wars?

 

[iGas]

I said it earlier, but it bears repeating. This time I'll use the whole quote, as it appears in the KJ Bible:

"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

Tell that to the molester priests and the pope for hiding the truth.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Tell that to the molester priests and the pope for hiding the truth.

Right, but they don't want the truth to be revealed.

"THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them."

- L. Ron Hubbard, "Off the Time Track," lecture of June 1952, excerpted in JOURNAL OF SCIENTOLOGY issue 18-G, reprinted in TECHNICAL VOLUMES OF DIANETICS & SCIENTOLOGY, vol. 1, p. 418

 

[IronWing]

God no, that would be disgusting. They believe they are eating wafers and wine, but that at some indecipherable point AFTER ingestion the food transforms into the actual body and blood of christ. See? Not gross.

This is incorrect. Catholic doctrine states that the transsubstantiation occurs during the consecration of the eucharist, prior to ingestion.

 

[sandorski]

This is incorrect. Catholic doctrine states that the transsubstantiation occurs during the consecration of the eucharist, prior to ingestion.

No matter the detail, it's still pretty fucking stupid. The Bible is pretty clear on the Remembrance ceremony aspect of it.

 

[IronWing]

No matter the detail, it's still pretty fucking stupid. The Bible is pretty clear on the Remembrance ceremony aspect of it.

When I inquired about accuracy in nutrition labeling I was politely told to STFU.

 

[zerocool84]

When I inquired about accuracy in nutrition labeling I was politely told to STFU.

lulz

 

[sandorski]

When I inquired about accuracy in nutrition labeling I was politely told to STFU.

 

[slayer202]

This is incorrect. Catholic doctrine states that the transsubstantiation occurs during the consecration of the eucharist, prior to ingestion.

omnomonnonnomnomnomnomnn!

 

[Ninjahedge]

God?

Judy?

 

[Ninjahedge]

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