fierydemise
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Originally posted by: n7
And here's another awesome thread :laugh:
Originally posted by: fierydemise
I like this thread, it may be a flame fest but its an informative flame fest
Originally posted by: Gamer X
Originally posted by: Rob80
Originally posted by: Gamer X
1.They are red
2.The are less technologicaly advanced and they try to make up for that by employing higher core speeds,but in the end they are less effecient than nvidia cards,Soviet weapons were less technologicaly advanced,bigger,and less effecient than American weapons.
note:If ATI goes out of business that would be a third reason.
You sir are an ass! :roll: Is this suppose to be witty!!! Half of your words are spelled wrong and your sentence structure is poor at best. I think I'll get my facts about ATI & the Soviet Union from some other source. Not from the "illiterate American"...
That was uncalled for,no need to be so rude!!
BTW,I'm not American.
That's cute, you think the Russian front really made a difference in the end. Reality is that had Germany placed all of their militaristic might in France we would have simply leveled them with atomic bombs. Germany wasn't remotely close to finishing their nuclear projects, they still lacked any way to refine U-237 to U-239 and at the point when they had that(which they didn't) it still would have been another couple of years for them to be able to counter. Also, unlike the much weaker Russian state- we fought wars on both fronts at the same time and we were winning both. Of course we would have waited to start our second main offensive line if the Russian weather wasn't taking so much away from the Germans, but in the end we would have ended up saving a lot of Eastern Europe from the barbaric inhuman Russian rule.
Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
An Ak-47 is more efficent than a M16.
In terms of firepower, weight and stability (no jamming issues unlike the M16)
The AK pwns all.
Originally posted by: Nextman916
Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
An Ak-47 is more efficent than a M16.
In terms of firepower, weight and stability (no jamming issues unlike the M16)
The AK pwns all.
Playin a little too much CS are we?
Originally posted by: Gamer X
1.They are red
2.The are less technologicaly advanced and they try to make up for that by employing higher core speeds,but in the end they are less effecient than nvidia cards,Soviet weapons were less technologicaly advanced,bigger,and less effecient than American weapons.
note:If ATI goes out of business that would be a third reason.
Originally posted by: Nextman916
Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
An Ak-47 is more efficent than a M16.
In terms of firepower, weight and stability (no jamming issues unlike the M16)
The AK pwns all.
Playin a little too much CS are we?
Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
Germany was the most advanced country during WWII but they could not mass produce their weaponry (King Tiger, MP44).
Russia has the most casualties because they fought Ulysses S. Grant style...pour units into the battlefield and tell them to run forward.
Hitler had plans to invade America.. read his second book
Half of you hear are believing Cold War propoganda about how Communism is evil
Originally posted by: CKXP
who needs the History Channel this is th place to be. besides, Russia needed the US to defeat Germany, if i remember correctly, Stalin was begging the US to open a second front(Western side). Hence D-day.
Originally posted by: RussianSensation
At the time president Stalin did not even believe Americans or his advisors who all told him that Germany would invade Russia. So when the war started in 1939, he drank tea and coffee and ate caviar 24/7. By the time everyone was heavily into the war, Russia didnt even build 1 additional tank because they thought they wouldnt fight anyone. Imagine Germany converting every factory to build war machinery and almost every Russian factory producing shoes, clothes, cars....nothing military related. Just to convert country's infrastructure towards war efforts probably takes months.
This sums up the situation prior to Hitler's invasion on Russia : "Probably Stalin's most successful propaganda coup of all was the propagation of the myth that Soviet territorial acquisitions in 1939 were designed to establish a forward strategic line in case of a German attack. This tale has received wide acceptance, but eighteen months later when Hitler launched his invasion, virtually nothing had been accomplished in the way of fortifications, defensive lines or military airfields to exploit ground gained by the Nazi-Soviet Pact."
So when you have 1 gun among 100 men, it's no wonder your casualties will be through the roof. I dont necessarily recall Americans sending troops without weapons. Again since the majority of the war was not fought on NA land, it's only a statistical probability that those in the heart of warzone will get slaughtered like chickens even if they have weapons. And Stalin's unreadiness and shock during invasion (when Germany invaded Russia he told everyone it was a lie and sat in his office in shock for days not talking to anyone) only made the country less prepared when everyone else was trying as hard as they can to produce weapons. Just the Leningrad (St. Petersburg) blockade alone killed more people than all US troops in the war (not going to look for numbers).
blitzkrieg(lightning war), kinda reminds me of what Nvidia did this round with G70 series7800gtx,gt,gtx512,6800gs,and 7800gs
Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
so nvidia fed speed to its developers to make them work faster?
Originally posted by: CKXP
blitzkrieg(lightning war), kinda reminds me of what Nvidia did this round with G70 series7800gtx,gt,gtx512,6800gs,and 7800gs
Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
so nvidia fed speed to its developers to make them work faster?
just an anology to the way Nvidia came out swinging this round with G70 series, i'm really impressed with the models they released so far.
Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
U do know that if America had never helped Russia in WWII, Germany would be controlling Eurasia and would be advancing on the main land of North America right?
Originally posted by: CKXP
who needs the History Channel this is th place to be. besides, Russia needed the US to defeat Germany, if i remember correctly, Stalin was begging the US to open a second front(Western side). Hence D-day.
Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Originally posted by: Gamer X
1.They are red
2.The are less technologicaly advanced and they try to make up for that by employing higher core speeds,but in the end they are less effecient than nvidia cards,Soviet weapons were less technologicaly advanced,bigger,and less effecient than American weapons.
note:If ATI goes out of business that would be a third reason.
OK your statements are too funny.... You provided no timeline whatsoever.
I would be careful dissing Russia given that they invented the lazer, have far outpaced Americans when it comes to aircraft technology and actually hold the record for having built the largest airplane to date (AN-225 Mriya - which can hold the fuselage of a Boeing 747 inside its belly), as well as having one of the best helicopters on the planet - the Black Shark, and their space expertise is unparalleled. Russia's main problem with technology is lack of financial support and lack of quality attributed to lack of financial support and proper infrastructure. Let's not even discuss AK-47's standing as still the best all-around hand weapon ever made and how M16 guns jam in water....
I also failed to mention that out of all the countries in the world, Russia leads in terms of having the most billionaires under the age of 40 in the top 100; so it's not going out of business any time soon.
Instead you should thank the Soviet Union for showing you that some alternative market systems like communism are inferior to capitalism and that no market system is perfect or is protected from failure. Plus, without Russia and their "inferior" and "inefficient" weapons, Americans would have never defeated Hitler and many historians argue that they actually won the war and Americans helped them. The T-34 tank used in WW2 wasn't so bad afterall.
Again just because Russia is inferior economically today, doesn't mean US will remain the top empire forever...Just like Nvidia's market lead in the descrete graphics card segment is probably going to be overcome at one point (yet again ATI leads in overall market share).
Also when you say ATI cards are less technologically advanced, what do you mean exactly? Avivo video engine and ATI's 2D output are probably superior to Nvidia. Nvidia still offers no multimedia solution compared to Ati's all-in-wonder. ATI cards offer SM3.0, but let you have 14AA in crossfire mode and have 3Dc support. You can also say that that Nvidia has CineFX engine, shadow technology and that their engineering team has been able to produce a 110nm gpu that outpaces ATi's higher clocked gpu produced on 90nm process (an outstanding accomplishment).
Both companies offer something the other firm doesnt. Just because one goes about a different way of achieving the end result of producing image and framerates, doesn't mean the other is less technologically advanced. They are just different....Plus efficiency can be measured in terms of output per clock cycle, performance per watt, etc. So your argument is very ambiguous.
Of course it made a difference - Russia was responsible for destroying Germany's best Panzer divisions and some of their best units as well.That's cute, you think the Russian front really made a difference in the end.
France was effectively a member of the Allies and you can't just go around nuking civilian targets of your allies on the hopes of hitting something military of your enemies.Reality is that had Germany placed all of their militaristic might in France we would have simply leveled them with atomic bombs.
At the end of the war the Red Army was the most powerful fighting force in the world and they probably had more tanks, artillery and men than all of rest of the allied forces combined.Also, unlike the much weaker Russian state- we fought wars on both fronts at the same time and we were winning both.