Originally posted by: TheBoyBlunder
Originally posted by: AnImuS
Originally posted by: TheBoyBlunder
Originally posted by: AnImuS
Originally posted by: TheBoyBlunder
Originally posted by: AnImuS
7) Because democrats rather the US pay them off then deal with the matter
Ignorance must be fun fwtong
Oh? And when a million north korean troops pour across the border when we begin to attack and seoul gets turned into rubble, what are you going to do ya jackass?
Oh?
What about when we pay off NK and they develop more nukes this time 50+ or more over several more years. And they demand more money not to use them. then we dont next thing you know dozens of nuclear missiles fly over south korea,japan, and the US. and all that could of been prevented. And when that happens it wont be just seoul into rubble it will be the entire country of SK.
What then ya jackass?
So you're willing to trade one of the biggest land wars in appx. 30 years for taking out North Korea. You're willing to risk the nuclear destruction of Japan, South Korea and possibly Alaska and Hawaii in exchange for taking out North Korea. You're willing to risk the wrath of the world's largest standing army in exchange for taking out North Korea. You're willing to risk the collapse of the world's economy in exchange for taking out North Korea. Right?
jesus christ! you just posted the REASON why NK needs to be dealt with now. Theres an estimation NK has two or zero nukes and is bluffing. They CANNOT be allowed to develop nuclear weapons. There too unstable. ANd i dare you to ask any japanese and south koreans if they will tolerate a North Korea with Nuclear weapons. and militarily right now Nk cannot sustain a long war by itself if it was just the US and NK. I think you forget the US is the only superpower right NOW.
Your just digging your self into a bigger hole...
You're probably right. If it were just the US and NK, we'd probably win. It'd be a long and very bloody fight (the NKs are probably not pushovers), but we'd probably win. Further, I'm not trying to deny that North Korea should be stopped. Their leadership is insane and they're probably the last country (outside of India and Pakistan because that's always a powder keg) who should have nuclear weapons.
But, before you say ?victory!?, I have a few fears that make say we shouldn?t attack unless we use overwhelming force AND we have a damn good exit plan.
1) China. Would they just sit back and let a communist ally and a heck of a buffer against the West get crushed, or would they turn the world?s largest airforce and army against whatever forces the West sent against NK?
2) You say NK has nukes. What would they do with them if we attacked? Would they just sit on their thumbs and use conventional weapons against any Western forces, or would they try to go out in a blaze of glory, nuking an attacking army or a western target?
3) The North Korean army. They?ve been brainwashed to a very sharp degree to have faith in communism and the NK government. They?ve had very little outside contact and afaik most of them would support Kim Jong Il regardless. They may not be very well trained or armed, but I bet they?re very highly motivated and have huge numbers. Would they surrender en masse? I doubt it. I think that they?d rather fight and give themselves for the motherland.
4) The North Korean people. They have had 50 years of living with the communist system. They?ve had nothing but ?the west is evil? for years and many are probably not going to greet Western troops with garlands of flowers and happy faces. I?m willing to bet it will be AK-74?s and RPGs more than anything.
Now, prove to me that I've got nothing to fear. Prove to me NK would be easy like Iraq was. If you can do those things beyond a shadow of a doubt, I'll agree we should attack asap and stop trying diplomacy.
1. Who knows with China. They have said they dont want NK to have Nuclear Weapons. China is a problem do to its massive Army. If they did jump in full force then the US might need to have allies help them in order to bring the numbers closer. I also believe even though china has a larger airforce that we have Superior airplanes and men. I believe the US can take over the "Air space". Once we have air space it will be very hard for China to win a war no matter how many ground troops they have.
2. NK has said themselfs they HAVE nuclear weapons. Do to the small size of Nk its easier from Sateillite Intel to predict where the Nukes could be fired. We can also launch a massive arial assualt making it difficult for them to launch one. Its been reported that the farthest nukes can reach is the west coast. But for sure SK,Japan,Hawaii. But nothing is for certain.
3. Theres nothing that can be done to changing their minds. Some people are very easily brainwashed. Just take a look at the middle east.
4. Samething as above . i dont understand how people can eat dirt and grass and accept it. Im not sure if AK47's and RPG are a common house hold as they seem to be in a Iraq, so i cant comment much on that.
One thing i know is that when every dictators gain power they WANT MORE. Its a simple fact. Nk will not stop a nuclear weapons, hydrogen bombs will be next and so forth. One of the greatest examples and even though its used many times it brings you back to reality. Hitler was allowed to grow its military and science and theres only ONE thing he chose to do with that. And that was to destroy and conquer countries. You think its not possible that when NK develops more Nukes and bigger military that it might conquer SK?
Final comment,
Is SK,japan and neighboring countries and myself well not feel SAFE with NK developing nuclear missiles with its insane dictatorship. And i dont like the US being blackmailed which includes me and you into giving them our money and aid not to attack us.
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