Why aren't online retailers required to reveal country of origin?

Throckmorton

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We're supposed to vote with our wallets, and that includes choosing which countries we support or boycott. B&M shops are required to display country of origin, so why aren't online retailers?
 

Rakehellion

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Boycott a country? Like your $5 will put a dent in their trillion-dollar enterprise.

And the entire idea is moronic, to punish a business owner because of the country they happened to have been born in.
 

Greenman

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So? If you can't tell the difference, then country X must be doing a good job.

It's not just about doing a good job, it's about trying to keep your dollars in your own country. I understand that it's near impossible to do, but it is worth some extra effort. I want to see everyone in the US who wants a job, working. Buying from other country's doesn't promote that goal.
 

werepossum

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i try to buy stuff made in the US...
Meh. I used to be like you, willingly paying more money for American-made. Now I know in this Obamanation, it's every man for himself. Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what the world can do for you. We're only fooling ourselves that one party or the other believes differently or that our fellow Americans give a damn about each other as long as their own lucrative jobs remain.

Be smart and find a government job, then you can happily ride the race to the bottom.
 

Fenixgoon

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Meh. I used to be like you, willingly paying more money for American-made. Now I know in this Obamanation, it's every man for himself. Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what the world can do for you. We're only fooling ourselves that one party or the other believes differently or that our fellow Americans give a damn about each other as long as their own lucrative jobs remain.

Be smart and find a government job, then you can happily ride the race to the bottom.

i had a government job and left it because i felt i wasn't developing skills that were useful outside of said job.
 

Matt1970

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Boycott a country? Like your $5 will put a dent in their trillion-dollar enterprise.

And the entire idea is moronic, to punish a business owner because of the country they happened to have been born in.

That's the mentality that leads us to near trillion dollar trade deficits.
 

Rakehellion

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It's not just about doing a good job, it's about trying to keep your dollars in your own country. I understand that it's near impossible to do, but it is worth some extra effort. I want to see everyone in the US who wants a job, working. Buying from other country's doesn't promote that goal.

Why do you care if people have jobs in America or some other country? What if the guy in China has a wife and family and the American you just gave a job to is a pedophile?
 

DrPizza

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How about because if the item I want to buy is from the U.S., and it's an item that's frequently sold as a knock-off from China, that maybe I want to avoid the Chinese sellers so that I'm more likely to get the real product. It's not about the fact that I can get my money back when I get an inferior counterfeit product. If I order the product, it's because I want the product. I don't want it 3 months from now, when I'm finally fortunate enough to accidentally order from an American distributor.
 

Newell Steamer

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How about because if the item I want to buy is from the U.S., and it's an item that's frequently sold as a knock-off from China, that maybe I want to avoid the Chinese sellers so that I'm more likely to get the real product. It's not about the fact that I can get my money back when I get an inferior counterfeit product. If I order the product, it's because I want the product. I don't want it 3 months from now, when I'm finally fortunate enough to accidentally order from an American distributor.

This is still anti-business.

You are refusing the American corporation from getting a bigger and better profit from the cheaply made product.

Why don't you want to empower the job creators??
 

DrPizza

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This is still anti-business.

You are refusing the American corporation from getting a bigger and better profit from the cheaply made product.

Why don't you want to empower the job creators??

Why the hell are you always a troll. Can't you give up trolling just once and attempt to be reasonable?
 

Oyeve

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i try to buy stuff made in the US...

So, basically, you want to pay more for a product that is of the same quality? I dont support the overpriced "made in america" label. In fact, most, if not all, "american" made cars are barely made the us of a. Something like 60% or so.

I'd much rather have something made in japan over the us or any other country. Its funny, in the 60s and 70s we bitched about shit MIJ and once everything started coming from China we now realized the stuff from Japan was way superior.
 

realibrad

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,.. why are you anti-business and anti-captialism OP??

How is this anti capitalism? The buyer wants information from the seller. You might consider it arbitrary, but its just information.

There are both valid and invalid uses for information.
 

JockoJohnson

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How is this anti capitalism? The buyer wants information from the seller. You might consider it arbitrary, but its just information.

There are both valid and invalid uses for information.

Looks like you stepped into a steaming pile of Newell. He is just a troll account. Don't feed the troll.
 

Newell Steamer

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Why the hell are you always a troll. Can't you give up trolling just once and attempt to be reasonable?

The sentiment that businesses are absolute is expressed pretty commonly here; where few people feel any corporation can do any wrong. And, when it's pointed out (i.e. the Koch brothers), said pointers are labeled as bufoon drama queens.

When government does something bad; people get outraged.

When business does something bad; everyone is at fault, other than the business.

Yes, of course we should know where products provided come from - even as far as how services provided operate (is illegal labor being used?), but that means we have to have insight and transparency - which is deemed intrusive and 'big government'.

No one has drawn the line of where big government is allowed, unless it supports personal and 'moral' beliefs - and not that many see how contradictory and counter productive that truly is.
 

Newell Steamer

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How is this anti capitalism? The buyer wants information from the seller. You might consider it arbitrary, but its just information.

There are both valid and invalid uses for information.

Totally agreed.

But, what will enforce this information to be provided - self regulation? Nope.

It would have to be mandated by the government - and that sends the usual suspects into herp-a-derp mode. And, that is who I am mocking in my original and follow up post.
 

dphantom

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The sentiment that businesses are absolute is expressed pretty commonly here; where few people feel any corporation can do any wrong. And, when it's pointed out (i.e. the Koch brothers), said pointers are labeled as bufoon drama queens.

When government does something bad; people get outraged.

When business does something bad; everyone is at fault, other than the business.

Yes, of course we should know where products provided come from - even as far as how services provided operate (is illegal labor being used?), but that means we have to have insight and transparency - which is deemed intrusive and 'big government'.

No one has drawn the line of where big government is allowed, unless it supports personal and 'moral' beliefs - and not that many see how contradictory and counter productive that truly is.

So I still see this as a troll. What specifically has Koch Industires done wrong - that is what have they done that has been illegal?

Businesses are very much held accountable even to the point regulations are strangling some of our industries.

Some people are drawing the line at where "big government" should or should not be. A poor example but one that highlights this is the Bundy ranch fiasco. Ot even the thread on here about police mistreatment another minor example of people trying to hold government to account.
 

Newell Steamer

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So I still see this as a troll. What specifically has Koch Industires done wrong - that is what have they done that has been illegal?
Not illegal. Immoral and oppressive; manipulating laws and government for their own gain.

Businesses are very much held accountable even to the point regulations are strangling some of our industries.
Mmmm,.. small business, yes. Medium to large, they buck responsibility and frankly do whatever they please to make more money. When called out on it (use cheap parts, labor, etc.); it's their business, they can do what they want.

Some people are drawing the line at where "big government" should or should not be. A poor example but one that highlights this is the Bundy ranch fiasco. Ot even the thread on here about police mistreatment another minor example of people trying to hold government to account.
Bundy Rach fiasco - what fiasco? That they allowed a thief to steal millions for 20 years? Or, that the government decided to take back what was being stolen from them?
 

dphantom

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Not illegal. Immoral and oppressive; manipulating laws and government for their own gain.


Mmmm,.. small business, yes. Medium to large, they buck responsibility and frankly do whatever they please to make more money. When called out on it (use cheap parts, labor, etc.); it's their business, they can do what they want.


Bundy Rach fiasco - what fiasco? That they allowed a thief to steal millions for 20 years? Or, that the government decided to take back what was being stolen from them?


Ok, that is me as a taxpayer, manipulating laws to gain as much as I can. Oh yes and as a former business owner I did the same. I made sure I maximized my profits., Oh yes, I also did whatever I pleased to make money. Of course I never did anything immoral or "oppressive" (whatever that means) but to you maybe I did.

I must assume then you buy nothing from medium to large companies as they are immoral, oppressive, exploit labor and use cheap parts....

Bundy ranch was a government fiasco. Poorly handled by militarized law enforcement when a better approach to taking a lawbreaker into custody was available or should have been considered.
 

Fern

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Why aren't online retailers required to reveal country of origin?

How is "country of origin" defined?

- Is it the owners birth nation?

- Is it the owners physical location?

- Is it where the inventory is kept and shipped from?

- Is it where the server is located?

- Is the country of manufacture for products sold?

Fern