WHY are you loyal to ATI or Nvidia?

ShawnD1

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To those of you who loyal to ATI or Nvidia and only buy from that company; I am asking why.
Did one of the companies screw you over somehow?

Info please? :)
 

Mingon

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Apr 2, 2000
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Nvida - drivers have allways been superb and performance in 3d apps has always been excellent.
 

Deeko

Lifer
Jun 16, 2000
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I've owned:
nvidia Riva 128
nvidia TNT2 ultra
3dfx Voodoo5
ATI Radeon 9700 pro

I am not loyal to one company or another. I may argue for one card, or for the products a particular company is producing, but if a competitor puts out a better product, great, I'll buy it.

That said, I was a 3dfx fanboy for maybe a year.
 

Mitzi

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Aug 22, 2001
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I am not and never have been loyal to ANY specific brand or manufacturer...sure I like Antec PSUs, Lian Li cases, MSI motherboards, AMD CPUs, Nvidia Geforce 4 etc etc but informed research and what I hear on the grapevine would vastly influence my decision to buy any product over blind faith and fanboyism (is that even a word??) :confused:
 
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ATi - NOW the drivers are just as good as nvidias, IQ is FAAAAAAAR superior, they learned their lesson in Q3. it seems nvidia is too quick to optimize and trade in IQ for frames.


Nvidia cards: geforce2 MX, ti4200

ati cards:

9500 pro
9600 pro
9700 pro
9800 pro

:)
 

Vonkhan

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As of now, my loyalty lies with ATi

Never been late once with a rebate
No driver probs at all
Great value for $

My ATi experience:

Rage 128, Rage Pro, <<GeForce Mx 440>>, 9000Pro, AIW 8500, 9500Pro, 9700Pro, 9800Pro + TV Wonder VE and Remote Wonder
 

ZimZum

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Intel Extreme Graphics 0wnz!! 2 FPS in HL2 with all the eye candy turned up w00t!!
 

xSauronx

Lifer
Jul 14, 2000
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im torn on this
nvidia has much better driver support, by far, thats a known fact even though ati is getting a little better

but between my 8500 and gf3, the 8500 i think was better, especially with aa/af on. thinking ill get a 9600 pro next, though ill miss the linux support that nvidia has (the gf3 works just as good under windows and under linux)

i just get whatever the reviews/opinions go towards most in my price range. at $150 most people are saying get the 9600pro, last time it was the 8500 (when i needed a sub $100 card)

hmmm....i like the gf3 i have now, like i said, its mostly for linux support. atis 2d was slightly better between that and the 8500 as well
 

TourGuide

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Aug 19, 2000
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nVidia - for their drivers and their comparable performance (until the Radeon 9700-9800).

I've never had really bad problems with nV drivers. I am going to try a 9800 or higher on my next upgrade though and see if I can get it working with my setup.
 

oldfart

Lifer
Dec 2, 1999
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I'm not, never have been. I can not understand why anyone would be. 3D Cards I've owned by chip maker:

Rendition = 1
3dfx = 3
nVidia = 5
Ati = 2

Right now, I like ATi cards. The nVidia FX cards are way behind ATi at this time. Maybe next gen that will change. nVidia had better get their act together if they want to stay completive in this market.
 

DefRef

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I've been satisfied with Nvidia cards since the TNT, but the kafuffle surrounding the FX line of cards has been disturbing and annoying - disturbing because a company that's been historically responsive to the community and claims to be in touch has appeared totally out of touch and annoying because the ATI fanboys act like they've attained immortality thru their hardware choices. Over the years, I've had:

Voodoo 1
ATI Rage II
ATI Rage 128 + Voodoo 2
TNT
TNT2U
GF 256 DDR
GF2 GTS
GF3 Ti200
GF4 Ti4400
GF FX 5900 128MB

I built a new rig for HL2 and put what was supposed to be one of the fastest cards in, so these latest benchmarks, skewed as they are by dirty dealings between Valve and ATI, are a legitimate cause for concern. It's hard to believe that Nvidia has become so totally clueless, especially when you consider how many of the howling ATI Fanboys are plugging their mighty (*cough*) video cards into nForce 2 mobos. The "Mine's bigger!" shrieking makes it hard to hear what's actually happening.

Final irony: Nvidia is accused (endlessly) of lying and cheating, but how many still believe that HL2 is gonna be on store shelves Sept. 30th? Who's lying about their ability to hit their self-proclaimed deadline? Valve, that's who! (Games slip, no shame in that, but when's Valve gonna fess up?) Some sites are saying it's not due until FEBRUARY which means the next-gen cards from BOTH companies should be out by then, allowing for a legit apples-to-apples comparison.

Could it be that Valve is trying to FUD people into rushing and buying 9800s for their pimps at ATI NOW as insurance against Nvidia mounting a comeback with the NV40? Just asking? ;)
 

Crapgame

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Loyal, no, it's whoever screwed me last...

ATI RAGE LT
ATI 128 AIW
S3 Viper
S4 ViperII
(it took two bad cards at first) ;)
Voodoo 5500
nV MX 400
KyroII
ATI 7500 (I can forgive)
nV ti4200("")
nV FX5900
 

oldfart

Lifer
Dec 2, 1999
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Originally posted by: DefRef
I've been satisfied with Nvidia cards since the TNT, but the kafuffle surrounding the FX line of cards has been disturbing and annoying - disturbing because a company that's been historically responsive to the community and claims to be in touch has appeared totally out of touch and annoying because the ATI fanboys act like they've attained immortality thru their hardware choices. Over the years, I've had:

Voodoo 1
ATI Rage II
ATI Rage 128 + Voodoo 2
TNT
TNT2U
GF 256 DDR
GF2 GTS
GF3 Ti200
GF4 Ti4400
GF FX 5900 128MB

I built a new rig for HL2 and put what was supposed to be one of the fastest cards in, so these latest benchmarks, skewed as they are by dirty dealings between Valve and ATI, are a legitimate cause for concern. It's hard to believe that Nvidia has become so totally clueless, especially when you consider how many of the howling ATI Fanboys are plugging their mighty (*cough*) video cards into nForce 2 mobos. The "Mine's bigger!" shrieking makes it hard to hear what's actually happening.

Final irony: Nvidia is accused (endlessly) of lying and cheating, but how many still believe that HL2 is gonna be on store shelves Sept. 30th? Who's lying about their ability to hit their self-proclaimed deadline? Valve, that's who! (Games slip, no shame in that, but when's Valve gonna fess up?) Some sites are saying it's not due until FEBRUARY which means the next-gen cards from BOTH companies should be out by then, allowing for a legit apples-to-apples comparison.

Could it be that Valve is trying to FUD people into rushing and buying 9800s for their pimps at ATI NOW as insurance against Nvidia mounting a comeback with the NV40? Just asking? ;)
What is really funny is how the blame gets put on ATi and Valve when the blame falls squarely on nVidia's shoulders. Want some theories on WHY HL2 and D3 have been delayed?

Anandtech:
The developer of Half-Life 2, Valve, is the first developer to voice their displeasure for the NV3x architecture with such intensity, because it has forced them to write additional codepaths particularly for NVIDIA hardware; thus, costing them time, money, and extra resources. This was something not needed to run on ATI hardware, which is why they entered into an agreement with ATI. The order of the agreement was based on already existing hardware benchmark scores to a marketing agreement, not the other way around as some have speculated.
Beyond3D:
Note: It?s an interesting fact that of the two most eagerly anticipated games over the next year the developers have had to expand time and effort in creating special, optimised paths for GeForce FX hardware whereas ATI has more than acceptable performance (and with higher IQ) in both of these titles utilising the default path. The release dates for both of these titles have been a constant source of interest - has creating more special rendering paths actually hindered the release of these titles?





 

Regs

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Originally posted by: ZimZum
Intel Extreme Graphics 0wnz!! 2 FPS in HL2 with all the eye candy turned up w00t!!


The games option menu would not even display dude. No joke.
 

Mitzi

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Aug 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: ZimZum
Intel Extreme Graphics 0wnz!! 2 FPS in HL2 with all the eye candy turned up w00t!!


The games option menu would not even display dude. No joke.

Regs meet sarcasm, sarcasm meet Regs :)
 

Sideswipe001

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May 23, 2003
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I have had:

S3 Virge
Diamond Stealth
Voodoo3 2000
Voodoo3 3000
Matrox G400
nVidia GeForce 256 DDR
nVidia GeForce3
ATi Radeon 9700 Pro

So I'd say I've had some variety. I change loyalties with the wind. I always hope for the best in all of their products, and I seriously hope no one else goes under - competition is good. I even miss 3dfx.
 

MustangSVT

Lifer
Oct 7, 2000
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i buy whichever has better value and overall package.

I've owned everything except Matrox i believe.
 

Mem

Lifer
Apr 23, 2000
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I`m not really loyal to any brand since I`ve had Videlogic(going back a few years now) 3DFX,NVIDIA and now ATi,the way I look at it is best value/perfomance for my price range.Bottom line is ATI have really improved in the drivers and hardware department and at the moment are the best value for money IMHO.




 

ShawnD1

Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: ZimZum
Intel Extreme Graphics 0wnz!! 2 FPS in HL2 with all the eye candy turned up w00t!!


The games option menu would not even display dude. No joke.

You don't need HL2 to do that. With a GeForce FX5200 and AthlonXP 1700+, set AA to the max (either 4x or 8x), set aniso filtering to 8x, run fraps (shows frames per second), then try to play BF1942. The menu screen will run at about 10fps. The game itself - so low you can't even measure how laggy it is.
 

Rottie

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Feb 10, 2002
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lemme see...I am loyal to ATI cuz they are underdog and same true for AMD.
 

SithSolo1

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Mar 19, 2001
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ATi is red and black. My school colors are also red and black.
rolleye.gif


I've never had a problem with ATi but I haven't owned a Nvidia card since the TNT1s and that was a great card back then.
 

Rage187

Lifer
Dec 30, 2000
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Voodoo2x2
Voodoo 4500
Voodoo 5500
Geforce 3
Geforce 4
Geforce 5900


I was always a big fan of 3dfx, couldnt help but be impressed w/ a card and drivers that worked out of the box on every game I threw at it.

Then when Nv bought 3dfx, I figured I'd try them. I got the same results I did w/ 3dfx, the card works out of the box for every game I throw at it. And excellent drivers.

I tried ATI way back in the day, nothing but a headache to get it to work. Maybe in a few years after they buy Nv, I'll give them a try again.

But I sure do love my 5900 /hugs