Why are users so upset about the Mass Effect 3 ending? (Spoilers)

[JEDI]

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/outrage-over-mass-effect-3-ending-reaches-ftc-173411384.html

so whats the ending?

and why are players so upset over it?

 

[Bateluer]

I haven't played through that far yet, but from what I have gleaned from the Official ME3 thread, is that it makes all previous decisions irrelevant, you get no epilogues or closure for your team members, and it doesn't really wrap anything up.

 

[darkewaffle]

Mostly because the box has "EA" in the corner.

 

[surfsatwerk]

It's bullshit.

 

[PowerYoga]

I haven't played through that far yet, but from what I have gleaned from the Official ME3 thread, is that it makes all previous decisions irrelevant, you get no epilogues or closure for your team members, and it doesn't really wrap anything up.

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The ending sorta just goes "wooooo magic bullshit" and the game's over. The 3 "choices" you get are just different colored beams... and the soldiers don't cheer in the green ending. You don't see anything about team members and what happens to them or how they magic jumped into the normandy when they were planetside.

nothing about what happens to the universe, how people dealt with the result of the battle.... nothing. just kinda "blarg".

Nice music though.

 

[frozentundra123456]

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/outrage-over-mass-effect-3-ending-reaches-ftc-173411384.html

so whats the ending?

and why are players so upset over it?

Play the game and find out. Seriously! Its not like this is anything new. There are already two threads devoted to this.

 

[Red Hawk]

Two video explanations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M0Cf864P7E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H_A7SeawU4

Warning: MASSIVE spoilers in both videos so if you plan on playing the game don't watch them.

I do think that an FTC complaint is taking it a step too far though.

 

[DeathReborn]

I think it's more a case of EA/BioWare calling the ending as conclusive & giving us an inconsistent mess that leaves far too many plot-holes unexplained & manages to add teleportation to the ME universe.

I'm no fan of Hollywood endings but I am also not a fan of half baked endings like ME3 has multiples of. EA/BioWare shouldn't play the hype game if they're going to drop the ball in the process, it just leases a bitter taste in the mouth of their customers.

 

[sigurros81]

I think it's more a case of EA/BioWare calling the ending as conclusive & giving us an inconsistent mess that leaves far too many plot-holes unexplained & manages to add teleportation to the ME universe.

I'm no fan of Hollywood endings but I am also not a fan of half baked endings like ME3 has multiples of. EA/BioWare shouldn't play the hype game if they're going to drop the ball in the process, it just leases a bitter taste in the mouth of their customers.

One would think people are becoming desensitized to all the hype that Bioware throws out every time they release a game.

The Old Republic was a joke.

 

[Anubis]

sounds similar to the BS that was the end of Deus Ex HR

 

[darkewaffle]

One would think people are becoming desensitized to all the hype that Bioware throws out every time they release a game.

Yea, it's a good thing nobody else does that! It's really unfair to the consumer.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

The magic bullshit roll credits ending was one problem. The other problem is that all of your choices throughout the game have literally no effect on the 3 cutscenes that play.

 

[yllus]

Star Child: To prevent synthetic life from killing all organic life in the galaxy, every 50,000 years I kill 99% of organic life in the galaxy.

Shepard: Because I have a massive concussion, I'm not going to point out how stupid your plan is. I'm just going to limp forward into one of three identical nonsensical endings.

I just thought it was dumb.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Two video explanations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M0Cf864P7E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H_A7SeawU4

Warning: MASSIVE spoilers in both videos so if you plan on playing the game don't watch them.

I do think that an FTC complaint is taking it a step too far though.

The first one hit all the points.

Not only choice, not only stupid child god, but why the fuck was the normandy flying through the relay when they were in the middle of the battle. How the hell did the normandy pick up my squad members while we were running towards the conduit, unscathed after being hit by a freakin laser beam of death.

Oh forgot about the armada of all the species stuck by Earth. Then if you had the grandpa and child scene, they talk as if they never knew if there were any other species in the universe.

 

[sigurros81]

Two video explanations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M0Cf864P7E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H_A7SeawU4

Warning: MASSIVE spoilers in both videos so if you plan on playing the game don't watch them.

I do think that an FTC complaint is taking it a step too far though.

I did not realize Richard Dreifuss cared about Mass Effect 3.

 

[kazryv]

I understand how it might be upsetting to some... but I personally quite enjoyed the ending

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Spoiler

Shepard had to die, they said that this will be the end of his storyline, I didn't like that they destroyed all of the mass effect relays but I liked everything else, I thought it was well done. Remember too that the protheans built a mass effect relay once, they could rebuild and have some mission to recover a prothean data cache that contains instructions for the construction of a mass effect relay. Continue onward with a different hero in the same universe if they chose to.

 

[coloumb]

Maybe for the same reason a lot of people didn't like how LOST ended?

I'm about 10 minutes into ME 3 and I'm already angry that a certain small person died... /sarcasm

 

[RampantAndroid]

EA seems to be offering refunds now.

http://i.imgur.com/mIvml.png

Source: http://social.bioware.com/group/5245/discussion/20779/

The ending is just full of plot holes. Good on EA for allowing refunds, and I hope that EA seriously re-evaluates Bioware's future and either makes some changes, or decides to just stop rather than going further down.

Given that DA3 has been reset, and the new DA3 will be transparent during development and will accept community feedback, I suspect SOMEONE realized that they'd totally lost touch of their fanbase.

Also, I think the whole writer at bioware saying she's better than everyone else because we all wish we had female reproductive organs...well, that ALSO kinda alienated people I think. If I did something at my work to draw negative attention to me (in direct context of my workplace) I'd be SEVERELY reprimanded, if not fired. But Bioware, no- they just come out and say how much they support her.

 

[irishScott]

I understand how it might be upsetting to some... but I personally quite enjoyed the ending

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Shepard had to die, they said that this will be the end of his storyline, I didn't like that they destroyed all of the mass effect relays but I liked everything else, I thought it was well done. Remember too that the protheans built a mass effect relay once, they could rebuild and have some mission to recover a prothean data cache that contains instructions for the construction of a mass effect relay. Continue onward with a different hero in the same universe if they chose to.

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I fully expected Shepard to die, I just expected him to die in non-stupid way that made actual sense. Like it or not, you cannot deny that ending is chalked full of plot holes.

Yes, and where is this prothean data coming from? The Mars archive? Pure speculation. It's just as likely they all starve to death on Earth, fighting over lack of resources. Or at least Tali and Garrus starve to death, unless there's a magical source of Turian/Quarian friendly food on that random planet.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

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I fully expected Shepard to die, I just expected him to die in non-stupid way that made actual sense. Like it or not, you cannot deny that ending is chalked full of plot holes.

Yes, and where is this prothean data coming from? The Mars archive? Pure speculation. It's just as likely they all starve to death on Earth, fighting over lack of resources. Or at least Tali and Garrus starve to death, unless there's a magical source of Turian/Quarian friendly food on that random planet.

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Plus there's the ending that Shepard lives if you choose to destroy and have enough war assets. And the mass relays came from some civilization even before the Protheans, so even then they cant rebuild them.

 

[irishScott]

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Plus there's the ending that Shepard lives if you choose to destroy and have enough war assets. And the mass relays came from some civilization even before the Protheans, so even then they cant rebuild them.

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Well the Protheans did build the conduit, which was a Mass Relay. I supposed with proper understanding it would be possible to build one based on Prothean knowledge of the time.

 

[OVerLoRDI]

Everyone else has covered my objections with the endings. I hate the one ending as well.

 

[Zenoth]

Saw that moments ago, an interview with Mark Meer.

He mentions that [quoting]: «Bioware has said recently that they are considering all fan feedback, positive and negative. I don't actually know anything about their actual plans (and I couldn't say anything if I did), but I do know that there will be upcoming DLC. Changing or expanding the end of the game wouldn't be unprecedented. The gaming community saw it a few years ago with Fallout 3 from Bethesda and the Broken Steel DLC. I really enjoyed Fallout 3, and didn't really have a problem with its ending, but was thrilled to get the Broken Steel disc. Obviously, if Bioware wants to record more dialogue, I'd be there. I'm definitely scheduled to record more dialogue for DLC, but at this stage, I don't know what that will entail.»

He might be voicing MaleShep (and Jennifer obviously will too for FemShep) for... who knows... post-ending content? Time will tell, but it's interesting nonetheless.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Saw that moments ago, an interview with Mark Meer.

He mentions that [quoting]: «Bioware has said recently that they are considering all fan feedback, positive and negative. I don't actually know anything about their actual plans (and I couldn't say anything if I did), but I do know that there will be upcoming DLC. Changing or expanding the end of the game wouldn't be unprecedented. The gaming community saw it a few years ago with Fallout 3 from Bethesda and the Broken Steel DLC. I really enjoyed Fallout 3, and didn't really have a problem with its ending, but was thrilled to get the Broken Steel disc. Obviously, if Bioware wants to record more dialogue, I'd be there. I'm definitely scheduled to record more dialogue for DLC, but at this stage, I don't know what that will entail.»

He might be voicing MaleShep (and Jennifer obviously will too for FemShep) for... who knows... post-ending content? Time will tell, but it's interesting nonetheless.

I was a big fan of the series, and even thought the third game was quite good except for the ending. However, as I have posted earlier, if Bioware cant come to a satisfactory ending in 3 games over several years time, I absolutely refuse to buy any DLC to make a better/more complete ending. Either they did a lousy job with the ending, or they are just plain greedy and made the ending unsatisfactory so they could force DLC down our throats. I wont reward either situation by paying for what should have been part of the game, i.e. an ending that brings closure and explains the fate of the main characters.

 

[darkewaffle]

EA seems to be offering refunds now.

http://i.imgur.com/mIvml.png

Source: http://social.bioware.com/group/5245/discussion/20779/

The ending is just full of plot holes. Good on EA for allowing refunds, and I hope that EA seriously re-evaluates Bioware's future and either makes some changes, or decides to just stop rather than going further down.

Given that DA3 has been reset, and the new DA3 will be transparent during development and will accept community feedback, I suspect SOMEONE realized that they'd totally lost touch of their fanbase.

Also, I think the whole writer at bioware saying she's better than everyone else because we all wish we had female reproductive organs...well, that ALSO kinda alienated people I think. If I did something at my work to draw negative attention to me (in direct context of my workplace) I'd be SEVERELY reprimanded, if not fired. But Bioware, no- they just come out and say how much they support her.

If those are the links to Amazon offering refunds, then it's Amazon's policy to accept just about anything to be returned within 30 days of purchase. It's got nothing to do with ME3.

Also tinfoil hat.