Why are Trump supporters ok with The Donald violating the Logan Act?

[HomerJS]

It states the following...

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

Simply it codifies the one President at a time rule, which every President at least in modern history has followed until Mr. Big Mouth

 

[JSt0rm]

wait till he is in office. You will be amazed by the parlor tricks the local neocons and deplorables come up with.

 

[sportage]

This... that... what does it matter?
Because they wanted someone to stir things up.
Everything goes. Rules no longer apply.
Political etiquette is completely out and that includes any respect for current law or established presidential protocol.
The fox has taken over the hen house and that is just fine with them.
They don't care if the fox devours the hens and all the eggs because Jesus is a cumin and only God matters now. Everything else is evil and worldly and must be destroyed.
Men marring men, Muslims walking the streets, Christianity under attack, the phrase MERRY CHRISTMAS outlawed, and the white race has no choice but to stand by as some illegal foreigner owns their job.
They feel laws are only created to punish the white man. Everyone else handed a pass.
The white mans only recourse is the rapture. Biblical prophecy of impending doom. Nuclear war shall summon the wrath of God, and if Donald Trump can enable that then for them all the better.

THAT is basically how they see the world of today, and why they supported Trump. Because for them, and in their mind all is lost and nothing left worth fighting for.
They are hopelessly drowning and they want to take everyone else down with them.

Besides, they just won the election...!!!

 

[skull]

This... that... what does it matter?
Because they wanted someone to stir things up.
Everything goes. Rules no longer apply.
Political etiquette is completely out and that includes any respect for current law or established presidential protocol.
The fox has taken over the hen house and that is just fine with them.
They don't care if the fox devours the hens and all the eggs because Jesus is a cumin and only God matters now. Everything else is evil and worldly and must be destroyed.
Men marring men, Muslims walking the streets, Christianity under attack, the phrase MERRY CHRISTMAS outlawed, and the white race has no choice but to stand by as some illegal foreigner owns their job.
They feel laws are only created to punish the white man. Everyone else handed a pass.
The white mans only recourse is the rapture. Biblical prophecy of impending doom. Nuclear war shall summon the wrath of God, and if Donald Trump can enable that then for them all the better.

THAT is basically how they see the world of today, and why they supported Trump. Because for them, and in their mind all is lost and nothing left worth fighting for.
They are hopelessly drowning and they want to take everyone else down with them.

Besides, they just won the election...!!!

You come up with that all on your own or was it drug addled?

Trump supporters are a new breed bud. The repubs of yesteryear only supported trump because they didn't want a liberal but didn't care for him. The new ones arn't church goers and don't give a shit if men marry men. They are nuts though just like your rant.

 

[thraashman]

The problem is the Logan Act passed in 1799 and most Trump supporters want the world to return to the 1500's.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Maybe because as the President-elect he has the authority? Perhaps it's because no one has EVER been successfully prosecuted under the Logan Act? Here's a quarter, go buy a fucking clue.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/03/11/what-is-the-logan-act/

 

[Brainonska511]

Maybe because as the President-elect he has the authority? Perhaps it's because no one has EVER been successfully prosecuted under the Logan Act? Here's a quarter, go buy a fucking clue.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/03/11/what-is-the-logan-act/

From where does this authority arise for the president elect? Last I checked, he hasn't taken an oath of office yet and the Obama administration is still in charge for 3 more weeks. One president and foreign policy at a time.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

From where does this authority arise for the president elect? Last I checked, he hasn't taken an oath of office yet and the Obama administration is still in charge for 3 more weeks. One president and foreign policy at a time.

Maybe it's just from the 1st Amendment and free political speech then? Even free political speech to foreigners by a Republican.

 

[outriding]

Maybe because as the President-elect he has the authority? Perhaps it's because no one has EVER been successfully prosecuted under the Logan Act? Here's a quarter, go buy a fucking clue.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/03/11/what-is-the-logan-act/

Really... You are posting a blog that you have to subscribe to... I would trust wikipedia more..


Section 3 of the Presidential Transition Act of 1963 was enacted to help smooth transitionsbetween incoming and outgoing presidential administrations. To that end, provisions such as office space, payment of transition staff members, postal services, and telecommunication services are allotted, upon request, to the President-Elect, though the Act grants the President-elect no official powers and makes no mention of an "Office of the President-Elect."[2]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_the_President-Elect

 

[Chiropteran]

"Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government"

Well, Trump is going to fuck China, so you might have a point.

 

[Brainonska511]

Maybe it's just from the 1st Amendment and free political speech then? Even free political speech to foreigners by a Republican.

Classic moving the goal posts. He has free speech, but he doesn't have the authority to act on behalf of the United States government yet.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Really... You are posting a blog that you have to subscribe to... I would trust wikipedia more..


Section 3 of the Presidential Transition Act of 1963 was enacted to help smooth transitionsbetween incoming and outgoing presidential administrations. To that end, provisions such as office space, payment of transition staff members, postal services, and telecommunication services are allotted, upon request, to the President-Elect, though the Act grants the President-elect no official powers and makes no mention of an "Office of the President-Elect."[2]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_the_President-Elect

I guess according to Wiki that President-elects don't have 1st Amendment rights either. Especially Republican ones by the name of Donald Trump.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Classic moving the goal posts. He has free speech, but he doesn't have the authority to act on behalf of the United States government yet.

He didn't , but hey ask Obama to prosecute him. lol

 

[pcgeek11]

Don't be so vague.

Specifically what did he do that was in violation of the Logan act in your opinion.

 

[outriding]

I guess according to Wiki that President-elects don't have 1st Amendment rights either. Especially Republican ones by the name of Donald Trump.

WTF...

This is not about the 1st amendment.. this is about making political deals with a foreign nation.. if trump wanted to sit down and have lunch with a nation and talk about his kids I would not have an issue with it, but it more than that.

 

[outriding]

Don't be so vague.

Specifically what did he do that was in violation of the Logan act in your opinion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...o-mexico/index.html?client=ms-android-oneplus

https://www.google.com/amp/www.mirr...-crunch-9279559.amp?client=ms-android-oneplus

 

[imported_tajmahal]

WTF...

This is not about the 1st amendment.. this is about making political deals with a foreign nation.. if trump wanted to sit down and have lunch with a nation and talk about his kids I would not have an issue with it, but it more than that.

I'm sure you'll have no trouble naming the negotiations that President elect Trump was carrying out that violated the 216 year old law that has never been successfully prosecuted. I'll wait. Quick! Call the White House, you have a very short window to start !

 

[OutHouse]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...o-mexico/index.html?client=ms-android-oneplus

https://www.google.com/amp/www.mirr...-crunch-9279559.amp?client=ms-android-oneplus

lol, fail.

 

[pcgeek11]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...o-mexico/index.html?client=ms-android-oneplus

https://www.google.com/amp/www.mirr...-crunch-9279559.amp?client=ms-android-oneplus

I don't see where either of those "examples" apply to this:

" with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States."

 

[outriding]

To Outhouse and PCgeek..

From my first link..

Peña Nieto said:

"At the start of the conversation with Donald Trump, I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall," Peña Nieto tweeted, after their meeting Wednesday.


That seems to me to be discussing border policy with a foreign nation. I would think that would fall under the logan act.

 

[Bowfinger]

It states the following...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

Simply it codifies the one President at a time rule, which every President at least in modern history has followed until Mr. Big Mouth

Yes, but you forgot to engage your Tumpster to honesty translator. When Trumpsters spent the last year howling that, "We are a nation of laws," and "No one is above the law," what they really meant is no Democrats or Mexicans are above the law. Donnie could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and the Trumpsters would -- literally -- rationalize why it was just fine. Cultists cannot see the flaws of their messiah.

 

[pcgeek11]

To Outhouse and PCgeek..

From my first link..

Peña Nieto said:

"At the start of the conversation with Donald Trump, I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall," Peña Nieto tweeted, after their meeting Wednesday.


That seems to me to be discussing border policy with a foreign nation. I would think that would fall under the logan act.

Not in my opinion.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

It's just another bullshit "Trumpf is evil and we need to impeach him for renting a room to foreign diplomats " thread.

 

[OutHouse]

To Outhouse and PCgeek..

From my first link..

Peña Nieto said:

"At the start of the conversation with Donald Trump, I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall," Peña Nieto tweeted, after their meeting Wednesday.


That seems to me to be discussing border policy with a foreign nation. I would think that would fall under the logan act.

thats why there was no violation of the Logan Act. he was not there to change/influence current policy while representing the US government. he was only discussing what his policy would be if he would be elected.

intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States,

 

[FIVR]

There is no such thing as the President violating the logan act, and you cannot charge him with violating that act because he could dismiss the charges with a pardon. You can only charge him with violations of state law, and only then if you have a sympathetic State AG. I already went over this in a previous post, but this whole nonsense about the Hatch act or logan act is a red herring. It gives false hope where there is none.


The reality is that unless Trump does something so incredibly terrible that his own supporters in congress decide they want to hold him accountable there is nothing that can be done to stop him.