Why are there Conspiracy Theories if none of them are true?

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how do you know they aren't true??

for eg. does anyone really believe that J. Harvey Oswald worked alone in the assasination of JFK??

whethor or not you agree w/ any of the conspiracy theories, you must agree that the whole truth about that incident isn't out.
 
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A few of them are true (out of the hundreds), a few dozen more are partially true (creating an inaccurate or misleading perception by omission is a form of lying), but the vast majority are just people attempting to fulfill some need to gossip and some are even politically motivated. Conspiracy theories are the psuedo-intellectual equivalent of a bunch of women sitting around in a hair salon talking about other women they don't like.
 
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<< for eg. does anyone really believe that J. Harvey Oswald worked alone in the assasination of JFK?? >>

Uhhh, I don't know about J. Harvey Oswald, but I think Lee Harvey Oswald might have had some involvement.
 
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I didn't say I don't believe conspiracy theories. But I was just wondering why they are made sometimes....

I believe reeeeeally few ones ;) like... the JFK thing ;)
 
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Why would one consipiracy theory be more credible than another? Why would you believe some and not others? They are created because of logic problems. Watch an episode of Star Trek Voyager called, The Voyager Conspiracy once and you will understand how they are created. Yes, it is Star Trek and watching ONE episode is not going to turn you into a cloud hopping flower sniffer :)
 
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<< Why would one consipiracy theory be more credible than another? Why would you believe some and not others? >>

Simple, some theories are more credible than others - duh.
 
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Why are there Religious Ideologies if none of them are true?
Why are there <fill in another kind of ideology or superstition> if none of them are true?

BTW, talking about Conspiracy Theories, check out this page... ;)
 
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<< BTW, talking about Conspiracy Theories, check out this page... ;) >>


One thing cought my eye



<< Out of an attack force of 31 ships and 353 raiding planes the Japanese lost:
64 deaths,
29 planes,
5 midget submarines. >>



what the hell is a midget submarine?:confused:
 
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<< BTW, talking about Conspiracy Theories, check out this page... ;) >>


One thing cought my eye



<< Out of an attack force of 31 ships and 353 raiding planes the Japanese lost:
64 deaths,
29 planes,
5 midget submarines. >>



what the hell is a midget submarine?:confused: >>


A 'midget' submarine is a miniature submarine.
 
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<< A 'midget' submarine is a miniature submarine. >>

Into which only midgets can fit? lol!

<< Why are there Religious Ideologies if none of them are true? >>

Indeed, why do people tell lies if none of them are true? The question being asked is so terribly naive I didn't think it was a serious question...at first.
 
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<< A 'midget' submarine is a miniature submarine. >>


thats what I thought, but a midget submarine isnt exactly a good name for it, seems more like a submarine designed for midgets :p
 
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<< A 'midget' submarine is a miniature submarine. >>

Into which only midgets can fit? lol! >>


Hey, I didn't choose the name :p


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<< Why are there Religious Ideologies if none of them are true? >>

Indeed, why do people tell lies if none of them are true? The question being asked is so terribly naive I didn't think it was a serious question...at first. >>


What do you mean?
 
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<< What do you mean? >>

Sorry, I was referring to the question that serves as the title of this thread. My teachers used to say there are no dumb questions...they were wrong.
 
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<< What do you mean? >>

Sorry, I was referring to the question that serves as the title of this thread. >>

I see.


<< My teachers used to say there are no dumb questions...they were wrong. >>

Nah, they just underestimated the 'dumbness' of certain individuals ;)
 
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#1. The midget sub was a 2 man sub that only had 1-2 torpedos. Short range. Great for sneaking into harbors. At the mouth of Pearl Harbor there is a net that kept subsurface vessels from entering. During Dec 7, 1941 a couple tried an attack on Pearl. One washed up on the North Shore.

#2. Back on topic... These theories are whats left when people run out of facts before coming to conclusions. The gaps are filled in with... theories. The few people that KNOW cannot or will not talk. The rest of us just get good movies made about the rest. I must say though, unless it affects my a) Pay or b)my leave... i don't get involved with topics that are made up of question marks.
 
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conspiracy theories are a government plot to keep us from knowing the truth. if you dig deep enough you'll realize that there are no conspiracy theories and that we've been duped and manipulated into thinking there are things like conspiracies. conspiracies don't exist; what you read and hear about is just a cover-up to make life more interesting.
 
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<< conspiracy theories are a government plot to keep us from knowing the truth. if you dig deep enough you'll realize that there are no conspiracy theories and that we've been duped and manipulated into thinking there are things like conspiracies. conspiracies don't exist; it's just a cover-up. >>


A Government Conspiracy, you mean?
 
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<< conspiracy theories are a government plot to keep us from knowing the truth. if you dig deep enough you'll realize that there are no conspiracy theories and that we've been duped and manipulated into thinking there are things like conspiracies. conspiracies don't exist; what you read and hear about is just a cover-up to make life more interesting. >>



Just like the end of Season 4 of the X-Files! :p

I think there are cover-ups, but it's impossible to say to what extent.

To say that there is nothing the governement lies to us about seems foolish
 
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<< I think there are cover-ups, but it's impossible to say to what extent. >>

Exactly, for me the issue is people love to make sweeping generalizations based on one event or truth that isn't even related or is only remotely relevant to what they're generalizing. I've had a number of discussions with people who attempt to disparage and discredit...oh...let's say judges, claiming they are corrupt or something like that, and their reasoning or evidence for this is that some other judge in a different state 10 years ago was found to be corrupt. They try to bring completely unrelated things into a discussion to back up their argument.

So yes, while it may be true that Judge X from Minnesota was corrupt and went to jail 10 years ago, what does that have to do with Judge C from Michigan today? Nothing, but trying to tell them that is futile.

The same goes with conspiracy theories, they breed and fester into other conspiracy theories or are used as support for other conspiracy theories when they may have nothing to do with one another.

Its one thing to scrutinize an explanation or position and point out any inconsistencies or fallacies within it, its quite another to go several steps further to 'fill in' those inconsistencies for yourself with your own 'theory' about what 'really' happened, often rooted in a person's personal or political prejudices.

 
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