Why are their so many liberals in the Republican Party?

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Steeplerot

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And I know that Anarchy does not mean chaos in political science. I said it eventually clears out chaos because it takes a little bit of time for the newly free society to adjust from the state.




"Get your own ideology noob kthx. " -Comrade Marx
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learn about basic political theory before you make a bigger fool of yourself.
 
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dullard

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I think you are misguided with the labels "liberal" and conservative.

There are people who want few if any restrictions on freedoms (libertarians). An extreme libertarian is an anarchist. There are people who want many restrictions on freedoms (authortarian). An extreme autortarian is a dictator. But there are many people in between who want some restrictions on freedoms (conservatives, centrists, and liberals). You cannot be both a conservative and an anarchist because conservatives want restrictions and anarchists want no restrictions.

As you said, there are conservative democrats and there are liberal republicans. That isn't a good way to define the parties. People who want some restrictions can be (1) socially liberal and economically liberal, (2) socially liberal and economically conservative, (3) socially conservative and economically liberal, or (4) socially conservative and economically conservative. With four combinations and only two parties, the parties are free to move from spot to spot over time. Republicans tend to be in category 2, 3, or 4. Democrats tend to be in categories 1, 2, or 3. Notice how there is overlap (which is why many libertarians and authortarians claim there is no difference).

Instead, you should look at the type of restrictions to better differentiate the parties. Democrats tend to want personal freedoms and business restrictions. Democrats generally want more drug legalization and the ability to marry anyone of any gender; but democrats want to force businesses to stop polluting or to put gun locks on their products. Republicans tend to want personal restrictions and business freedoms. Republicans generally want the war on drugs and are against gay marriage; but republicans generally want businesses to have few polution controls and the ability to make any gun they want.

This distinction personal vs business restrictions tends to run far deeper than the typical "liberal" or "conservative" labels. Try it on many hot-button issues (abortion, immigration, etc.) They almost always divide themselves into personal freedom / business restriction or personal restriction / business freedom. There are exceptions, but they are far more rare than the exceptions if you call democrats liberal and republicans conservative.
 

Craig234

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And the answer is,

so MANY when at college or in that phase of their lives, back then BOUGHT INTO the strident propoganda of the lefties,

NOW a slightly (EVER so slightly) more enlightened age is dawning over the mentalities of people all over this Gaia Earth,

and WE S E E, we truly PERCEIVE, what an utter shitload of contrived vile crap the radical lefties like Barry (Barack) and carpetbagger Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton spew.

Meanwhile, as they determinedly pursue their AGENDA of tearing down the USA (fueled by YOUR taxes), our economy RIP !

This is an amazing example of the ignorant ideology some have fallen for.

Their brains are cesspools.
 

Jaepheth

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Please stop posting.

This (again)

Though I did get an idea for a new Grease Monkey script. It would detect specified members' posts and replace the text of their post with a randomly selected WH40K Chaos Quote.

Because, "Blood for the Blood God, skulls for the Skull Throne!!" or "Death to the false emperor!" would both have been much better posts; as well as having basically the same content.
 

evident

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i think one thing liberals and conservatives both agree on p&n is for you to stop posting.
 

woolfe9999

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I think you are misguided with the labels "liberal" and conservative.

Assuming you are replying to anarchist420 here, I think his misguidance has as more to do with the fact that he is obsessed with applying ideological labels to everything under the sun than it does with the fact that he may be "wrong" about this or that label. Take any 5 random posts of his and see how many "ists" and "isms" you can count. His view of society is taxonomic: it consists of a number of ideological cubby holes, and everyone must fit neatly into one or another. He's obviously found one of his own and crawled into so deep he has only the vaguest idea of what the world looks like on the outside. Arguing ideoligical semantics with him is rearranging intellectual deck chairs on the intellectual Titanic.
 
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dullard

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Arguing ideoligical semantics with him is rearranging intellectual deck chairs on the intellectual Titanic.
You may very well be correct. But, hopefully he reads some of the more well-thought posts in the forums and eventually finds a few more categories. If there are eventually many, many categories, he might move into a continuum instead of a discrete taxonomy world.