Why are states not on the same page with highway merging laws?

miri

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Shouldnt this law be consistent at least in the continental US?
 

EGGO

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Same thing with circle merging. There are four circles within a 40 mile radius from me. Two have incoming traffic yielding for the circle, and the other two have the circle yielding to oncoming traffic.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: miri
Shouldnt this law be consistent at least in the continental US?

If the federal government makes all of the laws for all of the states, then in what sense are they states?
 

ICRS

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Originally posted by: miri
Shouldnt this law be consistent at least in the continental US?

Each state sets its own laws. What does your state say about highway merging?
 
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a yield is dfferent from a merge, it is indicated differently and usually depends on the actual conditions (length of onramp for example)
 

IronWing

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Which states have laws stating that merging traffic doesn't have to yield the right of way?
 

Deeko

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Wait...there's states where the cars merging in have the right of way? How does that make sense?
 

olds

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Which states have laws stating that merging traffic doesn't have to yield the right of way?

Ya, I want to know that too.
 

miri

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Wait...there's states where the cars merging in have the right of way? How does that make sense?

It makes sense because the cars on the highway have a better FOV.

Also in Texas you must yield to cars exiting the controlled-access highway. This makes sense as you have a better FOV then the car leaving the highway.
 

potato28

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Originally posted by: EGGO
Same thing with circle merging. There are four circles within a 40 mile radius from me. Two have incoming traffic yielding for the circle, and the other two have the circle yielding to oncoming traffic.

Roundabout, not circle.
 

miri

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: miri
Originally posted by: ironwing
Which states have laws stating that merging traffic doesn't have to yield the right of way?

Texas. What other states are like this?

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/ftp/forms/DLhandbook.pdf

See Page 9-2. Texas requires merging traffic to yield.

4.3 says you must yield to merging traffic on controlled-access highways.

I remember when I used to drive in Texas, there were yield to merging traffic signs on the highways.

Whats the difference between a freeway and a highway?
 

bunker

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Same law in Michigan. Merging traffic has the right of way, although nobody else in this state seems to realize it.
 
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I'm unaware of local rules about merging. I use the "let every other car in" rule during peak hours and common sense during off-peak hours.

Aside: because I'm bored, here is something fresh off my spam folder.

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Seeking eye contact with another driver revokes your right of way.

Never take a green light at face value. Always look right and left before proceeding.

Ice, snow, fog, and rain are no reason to change any of the previously listed rules.
 

ICRS

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In California you can turn left into the outer most lane. You don't have to turn into the inner most lane.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: bunker
Same law in Michigan. Merging traffic has the right of way, although nobody else in this state seems to realize it.

Sorry. Page 91:

Signal and check for freeway traffic by using the vehicle?s
rearview and side-view mirrors and quick glances over your
shoulder. Choose a safe space to enter and then merge into
traffic. Traffic on the freeway has the right-of-way. Do not count
on other drivers to let you in.

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/wedmk_16312_7.pdf
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: miri
Originally posted by: ironwing
Which states have laws stating that merging traffic doesn't have to yield the right of way?

Texas. What other states are like this?

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/ftp/forms/DLhandbook.pdf


Are you sure about that?
According to your link...(pg. 54)

ENTERING THE FREEWAY
1. You must yield right of way to vehicles already on the freeway.

2. Enter the speed change lane, stay to the right, signal left, and when the way is clear increase your speed so you can merge with the flow of traffic.
 

miri

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: miri
Originally posted by: ironwing
Which states have laws stating that merging traffic doesn't have to yield the right of way?

Texas. What other states are like this?

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/ftp/forms/DLhandbook.pdf


Are you sure about that?
According to your link...(pg. 54)

ENTERING THE FREEWAY
1. You must yield right of way to vehicles already on the freeway.

2. Enter the speed change lane, stay to the right, signal left, and when the way is clear increase your speed so you can merge with the flow of traffic.

4.3 says you must yield to merging traffic on controlled-access highways.

I remember when I used to drive in Texas, there were yield to merging traffic signs on the highways.

Whats the difference between a freeway and a highway?
 

mb

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Originally posted by: miri
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: miri
Originally posted by: ironwing
Which states have laws stating that merging traffic doesn't have to yield the right of way?

Texas. What other states are like this?

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/ftp/forms/DLhandbook.pdf


Are you sure about that?
According to your link...(pg. 54)

ENTERING THE FREEWAY
1. You must yield right of way to vehicles already on the freeway.

2. Enter the speed change lane, stay to the right, signal left, and when the way is clear increase your speed so you can merge with the flow of traffic.

4.3 says you must yield to merging traffic on controlled-access highways.

I remember when I used to drive in Texas, there were yield to merging traffic signs on the highways.

Whats the difference between a freeway and a highway?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited-access_highway

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeway
 

evident

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what almost got me killed was when i went to mass and found out that people drove on the shoulder all the time!!! that's fucked up. how are people supposed to know these things if they are coming from out of state?
 

frostedflakes

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I think some areas have laws requiring you to move out of the way of merging cars if the adjacent lane is available, but in general I think right-of-way ultimately goes to the car already on the highway.

That being said, I usually just get into the inner lane, because a lot of people are assholes and would run over you if you don't. Defensive driving FTW.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: evident
what almost got me killed was when i went to mass and found out that people drove on the shoulder all the time!!! that's fucked up. how are people supposed to know these things if they are coming from out of state?

There are signs, but, yes it sucks and it's awful and the state should have never, ever, allowed it.



As for yielding to cars entering rotaries -- what?! That makes no sense whatsoever.