In terms of sound and build quality, Bose seems to be right on the level of Koss, Craig, or any other Wal-mart level brand made in the dingiest sweatshop in China.
In terms of sound and build quality, Bose seems to be right on the level of Koss, Craig, or any other Wal-mart level brand made in the dingiest sweatshop in China.
The bass SUCKS. I keep thinking the bass is turned up in my friend's Infiniti I30, but it's just the BOSE.
So Bose is note worth the money... who cares? People on these forums get way too worked up over it.
Originally posted by: Turkish
Then you truly are an idiot yourselfBose may be extremly overpriced, but calling it garbage is just idiotic
Based on y our logic, nothing is garbage--- just overpriced.
Turkish
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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: Turkish
Then you truly are an idiot yourself
Based on y our logic, nothing is garbage--- just overpriced.
Based on your logic, a Ferrari is garbage--- and overpriced
Whoozyerdaddy
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<--- 15 years in the custom home theater business.
Bose is crap. They can't buy a review in a respected audio magazine. Most of the good reviews they get come out of those well respected bastians of audiophile knowledge, Popular Mechanics and Golf Digest. Their subwoofers tend to roll off at ~40Hz and their satellites roll off at ~16KHz. ("No highs, no lows, it must be Bose" is not just a clever jab) They don't utilize any processing other than their own "proprietary" systems which means they don't utilize Dolby's 5.1 processor. I could go on and on...
That having been said, I would have them in my store to appease the uneducated idiot who refuses to listen to reason and just has to have Bose. The only problem there is that Bose litterally attempts to take over your store. They tell you what your product mix is going to be. They tell you when and where and how often to advertise. They even take extraordinary measures to control the pricing of their product. Ever wonder why Bose is always excluded from those store-wide 10% off sales at Sears? Because Bose will revoke your dealership if they catch you discounting their product. They're a bunch of retail nazis.
Bose is not a good product. Their stuff won't sound bad to the untrained ear but that is a far cry from saying that it sounds good. They use third rate materials, second rate technology and refuse to comply with the same standards as everyone else (they use RF remote controls and refuse to use Dolby Digital or DTS processing) making their product almost impossible to integrate with anything else. Their speakers are poorly conceived and just as poorly engineered. As is most of the rest of what they sell.
And for all of that... they still manage to command a premium price. Unbelievable.
Bose is crap. They can't buy a review in a respected audio magazine. Most of the good reviews they get come out of those well respected bastians of audiophile knowledge, Popular Mechanics and Golf Digest. Their subwoofers tend to roll off at ~40Hz and their satellites roll off at ~16KHz. ("No highs, no lows, it must be Bose" is not just a clever jab) They don't utilize any processing other than their own "proprietary" systems which means they don't utilize Dolby's 5.1 processor. I could go on and on...
That having been said, I would have them in my store to appease the uneducated idiot who refuses to listen to reason and just has to have Bose. The only problem there is that Bose litterally attempts to take over your store. They tell you what your product mix is going to be. They tell you when and where and how often to advertise. They even take extraordinary measures to control the pricing of their product. Ever wonder why Bose is always excluded from those store-wide 10% off sales at Sears? Because Bose will revoke your dealership if they catch you discounting their product. They're a bunch of retail nazis.
Bose is not a good product. Their stuff won't sound bad to the untrained ear but that is a far cry from saying that it sounds good. They use third rate materials, second rate technology and refuse to comply with the same standards as everyone else (they use RF remote controls and refuse to use Dolby Digital or DTS processing) making their product almost impossible to integrate with anything else. Their speakers are poorly conceived and just as poorly engineered. As is most of the rest of what they sell.
And for all of that... they still manage to command a premium price. Unbelievable.
Why is it that we need a new "bose blows" topic every single week? I know that I am going to be pummeled with 31337 @udi0phi13 psychobabble for this but: For the most part, isn't "sound" be completely subjective? I own a pair of Bose triport headphones and love them. They are much more comfortable than any other pair of headphone's I have tried, and they passively reduce outside noise better as well. I have compared them to many other headphones(Grado S60's, Sony V6's, Various Sennies) and have never said to myself "Wow, the sound quality is so much better on pair X." However I have noticed a HUGE difference in the amount of outside noise I hear, as well as comfort.
*Flame Shield Up*
I would have flamed you, but the shield is blocking me .
In all honestly, though, if you have tried other headphones and still like those, what's the big deal? You may not be getting the "best" or most accurate sound but it your money and your ears. At least you aren't being a zombie for Bose marketing and refusing to even try out other products.
. In all honestly, though, if you have tried other headphones and still like those, what's the big deal? You may not be getting the "best" or most accurate sound but it your money and your ears. At least you aren't being a zombie for Bose marketing and refusing to even try out other products.
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b/c they listen to it and think it is good, the problem is they are comparing bose to stock. Put them up against some Martin Logan, or M&K and then they will be shocked. The general consumer has no idea what's out there.
Nope, not when it comes to reproduction. There is the good kind (output close in fidelity to input), and the bad kind (output poorly representing input).
That doesn't necessarily imply one cannot like 'bad' sound. Some people just have a very poor sense for quality and revert to immediate excitational perceptions to judge their liking towards a certain product; particularly bass reproduction; as in more bass is better.
It's too bad somebody already said the "no highs? No lows?..." joke, so now I have to come up with an original comment.
Hey, what do you buy if you want a low-range mid-pass filter built into your speakers? Bose.
Hey, what do you buy if you want a low-range mid-pass filter built into your speakers? Bose.
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yeah, the ipod headphone jack is some SH!T...line out FTW with some nice IC's to a moy amp to my E4C's would be nice.
For the same reason that Bose needs to keep advertising how good they are. To keep convincing people.
So if I wasn't part of anandtech and came to that conclusion on my own, what would that make you? A tool? I'd say yes..
The only bose product that is comparable to a koss product is the entry level wave radio, which is utter garbage. Complete garbage. It should be taken off the market for being so horribly bad.
That aside, I actually don't mind bose. The large wave radio is really nice for a dining room, it looks great and sounds really good, especially for an all in one unit. I don't believe that I've actually heard an all-in-one tabletop radio that sounds as good as it, at any price.
The subwoofers on thier home theatres are pathetic, and their satellites aren't great for music (but are quite good for multimedia), but they're by no means terrible.
Obviously a $1200 home theatre in a box that has a lot of it's budget set aside for asthetics isn't going to sound as great as a pair of $5,000 B&W speakers running through a McIntosh amp, but it's really not that bad, especially for the general consumer which is their target audience.
Fanboys suck, and so do people who get bothered by what other people purchase. Re-evaulate your priorities in life people!
Actually, Koss, Craig, and some Wal Mart stuff is about EXACTLY what Bose should be compared with, sound-wise.
That isn't Bose-hating, it's the truth.
Nearly anything sold at BB or CC that is home stereo is at least as good as Bose...just because Koss or KLH prices their stuff at what it's really worth rather than trying to fool people into thinking it's worth 5 times too much doesn't mean they aren't just as good.
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