Why are some Americans so fascinated with guns?

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sandorski

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Guns have played an integral part in the history of the country, starting from the expansion to the west all the way through the war for independence and beyond.

Further, guns grant individuals a measure of power that mere serfs in most other places don't have. You have the ability to defend yourself and your family from direct threats without always needing to rely on government authority to do so for you.

I don't own any guns BTW, but I'm a strong believer that people should be free to make that choice for themselves just like I have.

Guns have been a part of every Modern Nations history.
 

HeXen

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I dunno, parts of Africa has 6 year olds holding machine guns...I'd say they love them much more than us.
 

SP33Demon

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I'm not fascinated or obsessed with anything violence related. Shooting and hunting are both fun things to do. These days I stick to bird hunting because grouse are so darn delicious. Some of my fondest memories of childhood are biking right through the center of town with my .22 on my handlebars (no case), and heading to the woods to shoot stuff. It's right up there with fishing with my dad.
Most liberals would consider bird hunting "violent". Just sayin'. They are scared of guns, no BS.
 

SP33Demon

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I didn't lump all people into it, but that's true for a lot of people. You can deny it if you like, but lots of people own guns simply because they think they're cool to own. Like I said, whatever. Whatever floats their boat but let's not pretend most people own guns to protect themselves. And while we're at it, let's be honest about guns and defense. You're more likely to kill a family member than an intruder with you gun and the stats back that up.
Are your "stats' with or without trigger locks? lmao
 

bozack

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Yeah, there are at least two groups of gun owners. One group is dreading that one day they might have to use their gun against someone. The other group is excitedly looking forward to the day that they might get to.

This is ridiculously stupid.

speaking for myself I never cared much about gun ownership.

My father was an avid fisherman and he had a handgun which he took with him on his boat as he would always say there is no law on the sea and last thing you want to do is get mistaken for pulling up lobster traps.

When I was a kid I got my FID card cause my father said it was something I should do, and I occasionally shot air rifles and BB guns but didn't really care about them much, different times then so I would whittle with a swiss army knife and what not but nothing too much.

Now I feel that everyone should have a basic understanding of firearms and be able to use one in case they have to, worst thing I would think are people who are either clueless around them or scared of them.

I know lots of folks who are sport shooters and who compete, or others who have one for home defense, or a few for the social aspect of going to a club.

Do I think everyone should own a gun? no
Do I think they should have folks go through a proper handling/use class before owning one? yes

I have yet to meet anyone who talks about getting excited about having to defend themselves...seems ridiculous and something the anti gun nutters would suggest.
 
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sportage

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Simple answer? Sales.
The NRA devised their mastermind two part scheme.
First... dupe all Americans into being afraid of everything. Afraid of blacks, Mexicans, their neighbors, their friends, the government, and afraid of their own family members.
Second... push a gun as the answer to all their problems, pay congress into going along, then SALE THOSE GUNS!

In Iowa, republicans in the Iowa legislation are about to allow all children to legally purchase, own, and carry around a gun.
This could be the game changer over that friendly game of marbles.
"MOMMY... Billy beat me and won all my marbles. but I got even. I blew his f-king head off."

"D minus? Teacher? Really? You gave me a D minus on my math test? Teacher, are you kidding? Teach, you wouldn't want to reconsider that grade now would you?
Because teach, being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you’ve got to ask yourself one question teach: Did Billy possibly deserve an A+ ?"
"Well teach? Do YOU feel lucky?"

"I did not ask for this iPhone 6, daddy. I asked for the 6S. Not the 6. The 6S. Now daddy dear, is it going to be the 6S? Or, do we have a problem here father dear? Lock n load!"
 
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Genx87

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Simple answer? Sales.
The NRA devised their mastermind two part scheme.
First... dupe all Americans into being afraid of everything. Afraid of blacks, Mexicans, their neighbors, their friends, the government, and afraid of their own family members.
Second... push a gun as the answer to all their problems, pay congress into going along, then SALE THOSE GUNS!

In Iowa, republicans in the Iowa legislation are about to allow all children to legally purchase, own, and carry around a gun.
This could be the game changer over that friendly game of marbles.
"MOMMY... Billy beat me and won all my marbles. but I got even. I blew his f-king head off."

"D minus? Teacher? Really? You gave me a D minus on my math test? Teacher, are you kidding? Teach, you wouldn't want to reconsider that grade now would you?
Because teach, being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you’ve got to ask yourself one question teach: Did Billy possibly deserve an A+ ?"
"Well teach? Do YOU feel lucky?"

"I did not ask for this iPhone 6, daddy. I asked for the 6S. Not the 6. The 6S. Now daddy dear, is it going to be the 6S? Or, do we have a problem here father dear? Lock n load!"

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HamburgerBoy

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sportage really is that crazy. That post was relatively concise to others I've seen him make on the subject, actually.
 

MongGrel

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Simple answer? Sales.
The NRA devised their mastermind two part scheme.
First... dupe all Americans into being afraid of everything. Afraid of blacks, Mexicans, their neighbors, their friends, the government, and afraid of their own family members.
Second... push a gun as the answer to all their problems, pay congress into going along, then SALE THOSE GUNS!

In Iowa, republicans in the Iowa legislation are about to allow all children to legally purchase, own, and carry around a gun.
This could be the game changer over that friendly game of marbles.
"MOMMY... Billy beat me and won all my marbles. but I got even. I blew his f-king head off."

"D minus? Teacher? Really? You gave me a D minus on my math test? Teacher, are you kidding? Teach, you wouldn't want to reconsider that grade now would you?
Because teach, being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you’ve got to ask yourself one question teach: Did Billy possibly deserve an A+ ?"
"Well teach? Do YOU feel lucky?"

"I did not ask for this iPhone 6, daddy. I asked for the 6S. Not the 6. The 6S. Now daddy dear, is it going to be the 6S? Or, do we have a problem here father dear? Lock n load!"

sportage really is that crazy. That post was relatively concise to others I've seen him make on the subject, actually.

Sportage is as sane as you or I regarding a lot of posts, we all have our differences from what I've seen.

A few people are way off the deep end :)
 

HamburgerBoy

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When is the last time you've heard a story about a student shooting a teacher over a bad grade? To say nothing of his masturbative John Wayne fantasies.
 

Zaap

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Why are some people so afraid of guns?

You could just as easily be afraid of knives. Or hammers. Or automobiles driven by dangerously reckless people.

I was just walking through the hardware store the other day past shelves full of axes, thought to myself- wow, a maniac or worse still a couple of maniacs could walk in here, grab a couple of those and cause an absolute shit-ton of mayhem- every bit as insane as any maniac with a gun. And at some levels, even more terrifying than a gunman. You could take people out with those axes left and right with almost zero chance of anyone fighting back until a person with a GUN stopped you. Cold hard fact.

But- no one went nuts with those axes. I didn't dwell on it. I saw no call to take axes out of the hands of law abiding citizens who own untold millions of them. I have no axe fear.

I have no undue fear of guns either, even though people do use them to commit criminal acts. Many more use them to defend themselves, from crazy people with... I dunno... axes.
 

MongGrel

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You're avatar even just miffs me off when you show up now and then and say silly things.

I try not to let it bother me when you post, though, really.

At least it isn't all bold anymore. :thumbsup:

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Bandits had two guns with Sam on the side of the A-4 though, I guess ;)
 
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Pipeline 1010

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I inherited a gun collection and I enjoy shooting them just like I enjoy using a fishing pole to fish or golf clubs to play golf. I like the fact that people can defend themselves with the gun, although I don't keep a loaded weapon myself. I don't understand why OP thinks owning or using guns causes one to be "fascinated". OP, can you please elaborate?
 

exdeath

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I guess in my situation, my parents never owned guns, never did hunting etc... So the questions might answer itself.

What is it about guns that some Americans find so fascinating? Is it political, is it the power rush, is it from growing up with guns.

Someone try to break this down for a non gun owner.

This nation was founded on the ground breaking philosophy and symbolism that citizens are not beneath the government because the government is restricted from monopolizing the use of force. Everything we do is backwards from the rest of the world that assumes government is the be all end all power and citizens are given permission for everything instead of it being implied that rights are absolute and not granted.

The every day though? The individual and personal fascination that a small subset of vocal gun supporters express? Same reason you have enthusiasts who get excited about any other inert piece of plastic of metal. Same reason anyone likes computers, hot rod cars, rubix cubes, legos, setting things on fire, blowing things up, etc. They are just fun marvels of physics, machine, and technology to collect, look at, assemble, take apart, customize, self repair, buy/sell/trade, shoot stuff, whatever, like any other material object that humans covet.

The difference between guns and all the other useless material crap we accumulate is guns ALSO have a philosophical useful purpose to empower a person with an equalizing force to defend themselves against predators. All walks of life, the young, the old, the weak, the strong, minorities, being outnumbered, etc can still exercise their natural right to self defense. Contrast before the invention of guns it was survival of the fittest. Predators could outnumber or prey on weaker targets. Guns are a means with which a person can execute their natural right to self defense with equality.

A nation like ours which was founded on principles of equality (ignoring the stain of slavery... sigh...) and unalienable natural rights that you are born with from the start and not granted to you via government permission, guns in the hands of ordinary people is an unquestionable necessity in America. It represents equality, dignity, independence, and power in the hands of the people.

And yes we realize we are unique in the world, that's why it's so important to preserve that heritage at all costs.
 
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sm625

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I guess in my situation, my parents never owned guns, never did hunting etc... So the questions might answer itself.

What is it about guns that some Americans find so fascinating? Is it political, is it the power rush, is it from growing up with guns.

Someone try to break this down for a non gun owner.

A gun is merely a tool. But you learn to respect the tool when you realize so many dumbed down morons want to ban them. Tools are vicious killers apparently. For many, the symbol of the gun is a bulwark against indoctrination. It is a way one man can tell another that he hasnt been corrupted by this liberal trash that wants to turn america into West Philly.
 

Tidekilla115

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Simple answer? Sales.
The NRA devised their mastermind two part scheme.
First... dupe all Americans into being afraid of everything. Afraid of blacks, Mexicans, their neighbors, their friends, the government, and afraid of their own family members.
Second... push a gun as the answer to all their problems, pay congress into going along, then SALE THOSE GUNS!

In Iowa, republicans in the Iowa legislation are about to allow all children to legally purchase, own, and carry around a gun.
This could be the game changer over that friendly game of marbles.
"MOMMY... Billy beat me and won all my marbles. but I got even. I blew his f-king head off."

"D minus? Teacher? Really? You gave me a D minus on my math test? Teacher, are you kidding? Teach, you wouldn't want to reconsider that grade now would you?
Because teach, being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you’ve got to ask yourself one question teach: Did Billy possibly deserve an A+ ?"
"Well teach? Do YOU feel lucky?"

"I did not ask for this iPhone 6, daddy. I asked for the 6S. Not the 6. The 6S. Now daddy dear, is it going to be the 6S? Or, do we have a problem here father dear? Lock n load!"

That law doesn't allow them to carry or even buy ammunition it simply is trying to let children start handgun training at the age of 14 so maybe this sets you off but in all practicality this is teaching respect for their weapons,proper handling and safety. so this makes less inexpieranced people with handguns by the time they can legally own and carry. And also .44 mag is not the most powerful I can list 10 that are more powerful .45 win mag, .475 , 50ae, bfr45-70,.500 s&w , .480 r , .454 casull , 500 Wyoming express , .460 s&w , 500 linebaugh and there is many more.
 

SP33Demon

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Simple answer? Sales.
The NRA devised their mastermind two part scheme.
First... dupe all Americans into being afraid of everything. Afraid of blacks, Mexicans, their neighbors, their friends, the government, and afraid of their own family members.
Second... push a gun as the answer to all their problems, pay congress into going along, then SALE THOSE GUNS!

In Iowa, republicans in the Iowa legislation are about to allow all children to legally purchase, own, and carry around a gun.
This could be the game changer over that friendly game of marbles.
"MOMMY... Billy beat me and won all my marbles. but I got even. I blew his f-king head off."

"D minus? Teacher? Really? You gave me a D minus on my math test? Teacher, are you kidding? Teach, you wouldn't want to reconsider that grade now would you?
Because teach, being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you’ve got to ask yourself one question teach: Did Billy possibly deserve an A+ ?"
"Well teach? Do YOU feel lucky?"

"I did not ask for this iPhone 6, daddy. I asked for the 6S. Not the 6. The 6S. Now daddy dear, is it going to be the 6S? Or, do we have a problem here father dear? Lock n load!"
Da fuq? Do you live in Flint, MI? That's not even remotely close to the answer of why this country loves guns.
 

Art&Science

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Can I ask you a serious question? Perhaps personal? Do you own a pair? I mean if I was on top of a Humvee with an M60 or what ever the hell is mounted on top I'd be like, "Now this is fucking cool yo!" Granted in a war zone it wouldn't be cool to have your damn head sticking out there for an IED or sniper to take your ass out.

Yeah, I have a huge pair. I guess that's why I don't get off when firing these - nothing to prove. Sounds like you're missing a pair, big bad guns help you feel like you actually have something hanging down there?