Why are SLR's harder to use

amol

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It's more than just pushing a button.

^ That's what most people want in a camera.
 

Modeps

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Why are they harder to use? They give you control over everything related to photography. They're for photographers, instead of little Timmy just wanting to take pictures of his puppy dog or IBETHATHOTGURL on Livejournal who wants to show here new tattoo around her bellybutton to all the teenage dorks.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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SLRs offer more flexibility than other cameras. You get to pick what you want to do. That means you have to make a decision. You have to think a bit. Thinking seems to be hard for some folk.

There are always simplified modes, but you have to turn a knob or something.

Real hard isn't it? :p
 

DurocShark

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Well, modern SLRs can be used as "Point and Shoot" cameras. Auto focus, auto exposure, etc.

I spent the morning in the Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs today. I had 3 cameras: Olympus C-4000 digicam, Seagull (Minolta) 35mm manual focus SLR, and a Yashica TLR. Progressively more "difficult" to use. But with the increased difficulty comes increased control. I have absolute control over focus, exposure, etc. I can decide if I need to lighten up that shadow area or if the bright areas need darkening.

Nice thing about that Oly digicam is I also, through an annoying set of menus, control aperture and shutter speed. Some neat stuff can be done even with the digicam. See here: http://www.donimages.com/pics/Colorado/

Those are the shots from the digicam. The 120 and 35mm stuff is being processed.
 

Mrvile

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Well I always pictured taking pictures (no pun intended omg omg!!) as just pushing a button.
 

IronWing

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Okay,

A button is like a keyboard of one. Pushing a button causes the camera to do something, take a picture maybe. Folks like that.

SLRs have a button, like the one described above. They have other buttons too, and knobs, and switchs and slides. These buttons, slides, switches, and knobs are known as controls. When the user moves these other controls around different stuff happens when folks push the button discussed above. Sometimes the picture doesn't turn out the way the button pusher thought it might. Bums them out. Folks don't like that.
 

Mrvile

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Originally posted by: DurocShark
Well, modern SLRs can be used as "Point and Shoot" cameras. Auto focus, auto exposure, etc.

I spent the morning in the Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs today. I had 3 cameras: Olympus C-4000 digicam, Seagull (Minolta) 35mm manual focus SLR, and a Yashica TLR. Progressively more "difficult" to use. But with the increased difficulty comes increased control. I have absolute control over focus, exposure, etc. I can decide if I need to lighten up that shadow area or if the bright areas need darkening.

Nice thing about that Oly digicam is I also, through an annoying set of menus, control aperture and shutter speed. Some neat stuff can be done even with the digicam. See here: http://www.donimages.com/pics/Colorado/

Those are the shots from the digicam. The 120 and 35mm stuff is being processed.


Oh I get it now, you can change exposure, focus, stuff like that. Meh sounds like a bit more than sitting on the couch. Definately not for me. :p
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Mrvile
Well I always pictured taking pictures (no pun intended omg omg!!) as just pushing a button.

That results in a snapshot, not a photograph.

With the first, you may compose a frame, but that's it.

Here's a good example. Suppose you want to take a picture of a single flower in a field of them. Well you get down, and "push the button". What's wrong with that? Well did you want the background in focus? Maybe, but you probably wanted the background blurred a little or a lot to isolate the individual posey. You yell at your point and shoot to get it to do that? Nope. You get what it gives you. It controls you, not the reverse.
 

Mrvile

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: Mrvile
Well I always pictured taking pictures (no pun intended omg omg!!) as just pushing a button.

That results in a snapshot, not a photograph.

With the first, you may compose a frame, but that's it.

Here's a good example. Suppose you want to take a picture of a single flower in a field of them. Well you get down, and "push the button". What's wrong with that? Well did you want the background in focus? Maybe, but you probably wanted the background blurred a little or a lot to isolate the individual posey. You yell at your point and shoot to get it to do that? Nope. You get what it gives you. It controls you, not the reverse.

Hmm I never thought about that.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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While you are thinking about it, consider this site.

That site belongs to our own Wallydraigle. Look around. It would be impossible to do ANY of those shots with less than a SLR.
 

Mrvile

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
While you are thinking about it, consider this site.

That site belongs to our own Wallydraigle. Look around. It would be impossible to do ANY of those shots with less than a SLR.

Oh yeah, I've been there. I've always been a fan of photography, believe it or not, but I've always been a spectator, never actually in the field, and I've been considering getting into photography myself (I can't believe I couldn't fit photography class into my fvcking school schedule school is teh sux). But I loved all his pics, wish I could take pics like that.

Now to convince my parents to lay down a grand on something I'll probably break anyway...
 

Mrvile

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Too much torque, mainly.

Well at least it's faster than you Miata.

Wait is it you or rbloedow that drives the Miata...damn I can't keep track of you GayTOTers...!
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: Mrvile
Originally posted by: Nebor
Too much torque, mainly.

Well at least it's faster than you Miata.

Wait is it you or rbloedow that drives the Miata...damn I can't keep track of you GayTOTers...!

Neither of us drive a Miata.