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Why are republicans politicizing baseball...again

Jakebrake

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Congressional Republicans warn Major League Baseball against allowing George Soros to take an ownership stake in the Washington Nationals.

Roll Call Article:

Republicans Warn MLB on Soros? Nats Bid

By Ben Pershing
Roll Call Staff

June 27, 2005

Three months into their inaugural season, the Washington Nationals are in first place. Attendance is strong, hopes are high, and the team is reportedly turning a tidy profit.

But to some Capitol Hill Republicans there is a dark cloud on the Nats? horizon: the potential that their newly adopted home team could be purchased by billionaire financier George Soros.

Earlier this month, Soros joined an ownership bid being led by entrepreneur Jonathan Ledecky. Their group is one of more than a half-dozen angling to take over the Nats, who are currently owned by Major League Baseball.

In addition to being a well-known currency speculator and philanthropist, Soros is also known in political circles for having pumped more than $20 million in the last cycle into groups seeking to unseat President Bush and elect Democrats.

While the Soros-Ledecky group is not seen as the frontrunner to win the bidding for the Nationals, who should be awarded to their new owner at the end of the 2005 season, the very prospect that Soros could have a stake in the team is enough to irritate Congressional Republicans.

?I think Major League Baseball understands the stakes,? said Government Reform Chairman Tom Davis (R), the Northern Virginia lawmaker who recently convened high-profile steroid hearings. ?I don?t think they want to get involved in a political fight.?

Davis, whose panel also oversees District of Columbia issues, said that if a Soros sale went through, ?I don?t think it?s the Nats that get hurt. I think it?s Major League Baseball that gets hurt. They enjoy all sorts of exemptions? from anti-trust laws.

Indeed, Hill Republicans could potentially make life difficult for MLB in a variety of ways. In addition to being exempt from anti-trust rules, baseball is still under scrutiny over the steroid issue. The Nats, meanwhile, hope to have a publicly-funded stadium built soon, though money for that venture is expected to come through the sale of bonds rather than a federal outlay.

Still, Rep. John Sweeney (R-N.Y.), vice chairman of the Appropriations subcommittee that covers the District of Columbia budget, said if Soros buys the team and seeks public funding for the new stadium or anything else, the GOP attitude would be, ?Let him pay for it.?

?We?re not going to interfere with [the sale], but from a fan?s perspective, who needs the politics?? Sweeney said.

Another senior Republican lawmaker who requested anonymity said that the league should be aware of the perception problem that might be associated with selling the Nats to Soros.

?Why would Major League Baseball want to get involved with George Soros?? said the lawmaker. ?It?s about more than just the sale price.?

Efforts to reach Soros for comment on this story were unsuccessful.

Lucy Calautti, the director of government relations for the office of MLB Commissioner Bud Selig, said: ?We?re glad to see that there is so much interest in the Washington Nationals, and whether it?s one group preferring a certain ownership group and others preferring yet another ownership group, we?re just grateful for the excitement revolving around the Nationals.?

Not all Republicans are fearful of Soros owning the Nats. National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Tom Reynolds (N.Y.) jokingly looked for a silver lining in the possibility.

?I?m an eternal optimist,? he said. ?Maybe if he buys the team, he?ll be too busy to create unregulated 527s.?

Soros isn?t the only political big-shot looking to buy the Nats. The ownership group seen by many insiders as the frontrunner to buy the team includes Fred Malek, a close friend of President Bush, and former Secretary of State Colin Powell. Another bidding group includes ex-Sen. Peter Fitzgerald (R-Ill.).

The current crop of baseball owners has its own share of political activists. New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner was once temporarily banned from the game for making illegal campaign donations to President Richard Nixon. And while Soros may be disliked by Republicans, there is an established owner in the region who already gets the GOP?s blood boiling.

?It?s bad enough that [Peter] Angelos owns the Orioles,? said Sweeney.

Several Members lamented the prospect that Soros would join the same local owners? club as Angelos, a wealthy trial lawyer and prominent donor to Democratic candidates and groups.

?Angelos and Soros?? Davis said. ?I?m going to have to go to Philadelphia to watch a baseball game.?

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They should stay out of baseball.

Edit: Here is a little backgroud on George Soros for nutxo's edification.

George Soros was born into a well-to-do Jewish family in Budapest, Hungary on August 12, 1930. When the Nazis invaded, Soros's father hid the children with sympathetic families. He survived the Nazi occupation of Budapest and left communist Hungary in 1947 for England, where he graduated from the London School of Economics (LSE).
 
Still, Rep. John Sweeney (R-N.Y.), vice chairman of the Appropriations subcommittee that covers the District of Columbia budget, said if Soros buys the team and seeks public funding for the new stadium or anything else, the GOP attitude would be, ?Let him pay for it.?

?We?re not going to interfere with [the sale], but from a fan?s perspective, who needs the politics?? Sweeney said.

Another senior Republican lawmaker who requested anonymity said that the league should be aware of the perception problem that might be associated with selling the Nats to Soros.

?Why would Major League Baseball want to get involved with George Soros?? said the lawmaker. ?It?s about more than just the sale price.?

I wonder if they are going to make the same statement about the group that Colin Powell is involved with that is also trying to buy the team?
 
MLB is a legal monopoly, thus it is overseen by the government. But I agree, we have many other more important matters that our Congress should be discussing.
 
So basically, the Repuke Congress is trying to pressure MLB into not allowing a viably sound buyer to purchase a team by threatening to pull their anti-trust exemption.

I bet if Pat Robertson or some other false-religious f8ckwad wanted to buy the team, they'd be throwing billions of taxpayer dollars into new stadiums, area improvements and federal subsidies.

Sorry, but if Rupert "I'm a a-hole Republican shill bastard" Murdoch can buy the Dodgers, then Soros can buy the Nationals. If they (MLB due to Federal threatening) block Soros from buying the team, which he has every right to do, then Murdoch needs to sell his team IMMEDIATELY.
 
Originally posted by: nutxo
I thought commies didnt like baseball?

Apparently they do. Baseball has an exemption from antitrust laws. Who needs competition right? That seems like a "commy" attitude to me.

They need to get rid of the anti-trust exemption for baseball.

Anyway, this is pretty repulsive if accurate.
 
But the fact that the company Diebold, where the president of the company who is a staunch Bush supporter gets to create and implement electronic voting with no paper trails is ok? Yet they wanna get on Soros for buying a flippin baseball team? Truely pathetic...
 
I would be more worried about Soros attempting to break baseball - just as he does to the currencies of poor nations. Sadly, forcing millions to suffer homelessness, death, and unemployment - all so he can make a quick buck.

The guy is human trash and I would prefer to keep him as far away from America as possible.
 
Oh, I see - they're the Conservative Nationals, NOT the Liberal Nationals.

They're not even the Libertarian Nationals or Green Movement Nationals.

Nor Whigs Nationals, or Torry Nationals.

They're a damn 'Private Ownership' Baseball Team, not some National Treasure.
 
Originally posted by: irwincur
I would be more worried about Soros attempting to break baseball - just as he does to the currencies of poor nations. Sadly, forcing millions to suffer homelessness, death, and unemployment - all so he can make a quick buck.

And we all know Bushco has a lock on that in the USA...

:roll:

 
Originally posted by: irwincur
I would be more worried about Soros attempting to break baseball - just as he does to the currencies of poor nations.

You don't believe in free markets, do you?

Anyway, investing in an enterprise and speculating on currencies are two very different things. In one case you want something to fail (though it's questionable whether you cause it [which you think is true]) and the other you want it to succeed.

 
Originally posted by: irwincur
I would be more worried about Soros attempting to break baseball - just as he does to the currencies of poor nations. Sadly, forcing millions to suffer homelessness, death, and unemployment - all so he can make a quick buck.

The guy is human trash and I would prefer to keep him as far away from America as possible.

Wait, your talking about Bush right? Yup I agree dude.
 
Wait, your talking about Bush right? Yup I agree dude.

Yeah because Bush does a lot of currency speculation...

Please take your sophmoric (correction, moronic) Bush bashing elsewhere. It is quite far off topic and does nothing but illustrate the pathetic position of liberals in America today.

You don't believe in free markets, do you?

Responsible markets.

It's funny how every liberal here is quick to jump on Bush (once again for something he has little control over) and call his this and that, yet you all think that Soros, perhaps one of the most selfish and despicable people in the world is your saviour. Sad that the party for the poor and for personal freedom is outwardly begging this man, a man who creates the poor on unprecedented scales and who ravages personal freedoms, to save them. Further evidence that the left has sold its soul in a last desperate grasp to save power.
 
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: nutxo
I thought commies didnt like baseball?

Well, apparently the Nazi Fascists love it!

Right. Wasnt Soros a nazi sympathizer?

For some reason Im thinking his family even vacationed in nazi germany.

 
Sometimes I think there is very little difference between dominant political organizations and organized crime. That congressman should absolutely shamed by his statements, but I strongly suspect he doesn't even understand why an ordinary person would be offended by his threatened abuse of power.

My statements should not be misconstrued as being in support of spending public money supporting professional sports teams-I'm dead against that-but everyone should be treated equally, not just the benefactors of political party currently in power.
 
It's funny how every liberal here is quick to jump on Bush (once again for something he has little control over) and call his this and that, yet you all think that Soros, perhaps one of the most selfish and despicable people in the world is your saviour. Sad that the party for the poor and for personal freedom is outwardly begging this man, a man who creates the poor on unprecedented scales and who ravages personal freedoms, to save them. Further evidence that the left has sold its soul in a last desperate grasp to save power.

How does speculating on currency create all of this destruction that you are referring to? I'm curious to know how you are coming to this conclusion. Also, do you think, when you bring charges like you have into the argument, that a compare/contrast discussion is unwarranted?
 
Originally posted by: nutxo
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: nutxo
I thought commies didnt like baseball?

Well, apparently the Nazi Fascists love it!

Right. Wasnt Soros a nazi sympathizer?

For some reason Im thinking his family even vacationed in nazi germany.

Hey, you elected Nazi-sympathizers into the Presidency TWICE.
 
Originally posted by: irwincur
It's funny how every liberal here is quick to jump on Bush (once again for something he has little control over) and call his this and that, yet you all think that Soros, perhaps one of the most selfish and despicable people in the world is your saviour.
I doubt anyone here thinks Soros is their savior. Is that how you feel about Bush? Maybe you are projecting?

Sad that the party for the poor and for personal freedom is outwardly begging this man, a man who creates the poor on unprecedented scales and who ravages personal freedoms, to save them. Further evidence that the left has sold its soul in a last desperate grasp to save power.
First of all, a lot of Democrats are fans of free markets. Fans of free markets believe that free markets help the poor more than other kinds of markets. Speculation is part of free-markets.
 
Originally posted by: irwincur
Wait, your talking about Bush right? Yup I agree dude.

Yeah because Bush does a lot of currency speculation...

Please take your sophmoric (correction, moronic) Bush bashing elsewhere. It is quite far off topic and does nothing but illustrate the pathetic position of liberals in America today.

You don't believe in free markets, do you?

Responsible markets.

It's funny how every liberal here is quick to jump on Bush (once again for something he has little control over) and call his this and that, yet you all think that Soros, perhaps one of the most selfish and despicable people in the world is your saviour. Sad that the party for the poor and for personal freedom is outwardly begging this man, a man who creates the poor on unprecedented scales and who ravages personal freedoms, to save them. Further evidence that the left has sold its soul in a last desperate grasp to save power.

Only moronic thing I see is you and your posts. I'm entitled to my opinions, and you are yours. There isn't a standard by which you need to meet some criteria to post on here. I post the way I want, you post the crap you post they way YOU want. And sir, the sh!t you post and your opinions are not of mine and I disagree. Sophmoric? Go eat poop.
 
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: nutxo
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: nutxo
I thought commies didnt like baseball?

Well, apparently the Nazi Fascists love it!

Right. Wasnt Soros a nazi sympathizer?

For some reason Im thinking his family even vacationed in nazi germany.

Hey, you elected Nazi-sympathizers into the Presidency TWICE.


Are you referring to this? Text
 
How does speculating on currency create all of this destruction that you are referring to?

Easy. There are a few different ways. You can either short sell and create a panic or you can force the price up - then sell in one big block - leaving you rich and everyone else poor.

Regardless of how you do it, Soros has done it on a few occasions - it is where he made his money. Now, currency speculation is not a bad thing per se, it keeps money fluid and moderate movement of money is good for a nation.

However, when you manage to completely destabilize a currency there are some major ethical issues about why you would do it. The potential downsides range from revolution and civil war to depression. All of the downside potential carries with is mass homelessness (as inflation explodes and people cannot afford debt), starvation, death, unemployment, etc...

Soros has been blamed in the crash of the Malaysian economy, played a major part in the downfall of Argentina and Venizuela. More amazing is the fact that he also had a hand in bringing down the Soviet economy as well as currently keeping the old Eastern Bloc states mired in economic malais.

Pretty amazing for one man. You have to give him credit, he is damn good at doing what he does. However, look at each of these situations, then look at the nations, some have never recovered, some probably never will. The people at the bottom pay the greatest price when a country folds. The people at the top have the resources to either get out, or spread their wealth to more protected locations as the disaster unfolds.

I doubt anyone here thinks Soros is their savior. Is that how you feel about Bush? Maybe you are projecting?

MoveOn and the DNC sure do.

First of all, a lot of Democrats are fans of free markets. Fans of free markets believe that free markets help the poor more than other kinds of markets. Speculation is part of free-markets.

Speculating is different than knowing that you are willingly causing an economic collapse for your own gain.
 
Only moronic thing I see is you and your posts. I'm entitled to my opinions, and you are yours. There isn't a standard by which you need to meet some criteria to post on here. I post the way I want, you post the crap you post they way YOU want. And sir, the sh!t you post and your opinions are not of mine and I disagree. Sophmoric? Go eat poop.

Odd, I managed to post on topic.

You managed to simply rehash the anti Bush drivel we hear 100x every day here.

AND IT WASN'T EVEN CLOSE TO BEING ON TOPIC.
 
I simply made a joke to your DRIVEL that you posted you clown. Read what you posted and tell me it wasn't drivel itself. To me it sure looked like it. Don't like my opinions? Don't read anything that has Shurato next to it. Because I believe I've concluded I will stop reading your posts as well as stated in one of the other threads.
 
Originally posted by: nutxo
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: nutxo
I thought commies didnt like baseball?

Well, apparently the Nazi Fascists love it!

Right. Wasnt Soros a nazi sympathizer?

For some reason Im thinking his family even vacationed in nazi germany.

George Soros was born into a well-to-do Jewish family in Budapest, Hungary on August 12, 1930. When the Nazis invaded, Soros's father hid the children with sympathetic families. He survived the Nazi occupation of Budapest and left communist Hungary in 1947 for England, where he graduated from the London School of Economics (LSE).

Nutxo where do you get your info? From the library of your ar$e?
 
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