Why are people disappointed the D50 only uses SD memory?

[grrl]

Title should say it all. Reading the reviews of the D50 it seems CF memory is considered superior to SD. I've googled a bit, but haven't found any meaninful comparisons.

 

[aphex]

because people like the came companies to keep the same types of memory across the line.....

 

[BRObedoza]

they probably already own alot of CF cards and don't want to buy new SD cards (all of the cameras i have are CF)

 

[grrl]

Originally posted by: aphex
because people like the came companies to keep the same types of memory across the line.....

That's the main argument? So there IS little technological difference.

I can relate to that then, I still prefer AA batteries to lithium.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: sleepmachine
they probably already own alot of CF cards and don't want to buy new SD cards (all of the cameras i have are CF)

I doubt it. Someone "upgrading" to a D50 would be coming from the P&S crowd which is well populated with SD media.

I doubt someone would be downgrading from a D70 or higher grade model SLR to a D50 or cross stepping from something like 300D or XT where CF media would be in need.

 

[grrl]

Interesting, NFS4.

 

[DaveSimmons]

I doubt it. Someone "upgrading" to a D50 would be coming from the P&S crowd which is well populated with SD media.

It depends, Canon still has a lot of CF models. My A80 and my brother's and mom's cameras are all CF.

CF is also still a little cheaper than SD for 512+ MB, and some cameras can use the 2 - 4 GB microdrive CF cards, but otherwise there is no difference.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: sleepmachine
they probably already own alot of CF cards and don't want to buy new SD cards (all of the cameras i have are CF)

I doubt it. Someone "upgrading" to a D50 would be coming from the P&S crowd which is well populated with SD media.

I doubt someone would be downgrading from a D70 or higher grade model SLR to a D50 or cross stepping from something like 300D or XT where CF media would be in need.

No, but some people (as ive seen on the DPReview forums) are buying them as a second camera or for another family member.

 

[feelingshorter]

new CF cards are going to go up to 12 gigs currently indevelopment by hitachi. Fun stuff. SD memory is also more expensive and only goes up to like 1 gig i think. Thinking of high quality pictures that are like a meg each, and your into photography, fills up quick.

 

[GeekDrew]

Posting here for no reason except to echo public sentiment that CF is preferred - simply because it's used all over the place. Heck, even Sony realizes that, and put it in some of their equipment.

 

[sniperruff]

because of the type II CF maybe? 4gig?

 

[TitanDiddly]

I <3 CF.

 

[BigB10293]

Originally posted by: feelingshorter
new CF cards are going to go up to 12 gigs currently indevelopment by hitachi. Fun stuff. SD memory is also more expensive and only goes up to like 1 gig i think. Thinking of high quality pictures that are like a meg each, and your into photography, fills up quick.

Hitachi makes microdrives which are CF type II. 12 gigs isn't really all that impressive. Flash is already up to 8GB and will be at 16GB before the end of the year.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: feelingshorter
new CF cards are going to go up to 12 gigs currently indevelopment by hitachi. Fun stuff. SD memory is also more expensive and only goes up to like 1 gig i think. Thinking of high quality pictures that are like a meg each, and your into photography, fills up quick.

SD media is up to 4GB now. Anything beyond that is truly expensive for EITHER format.

Originally posted by: aphex
No, but some people (as ive seen on the DPReview forums) are buying them as a second camera or for another family member.

But the D50 is seen as an upgrade step for people from the P&S crowd. Of course there are going to be the enthusiasts buying them for family members, but most people will be upgrading from less models and will have the media. As for the comment someone made about Canon P&S users still having CF media, I'd guess that they'd go onto Canon SLR's intead of going to Nikon.

Anyway, I think that most P&S cameras use SD (as do most Nikon P&S cameras)...especially the smaller ones.

 

[jpeyton]

Isn't SD going to replace CF eventually? More and more devices that I use (or that I've read about) are supporting SD over CF, XD, and MS. Especially cameras.

Maybe not DSLRs yet, but I'm sure the newer ones will one capacities 2GB and up become commonplace.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Isn't SD going to replace CF eventually? More and more devices that I use (or that I've read about) are supporting SD over CF, XD, and MS. Especially cameras.

Maybe not DSLRs yet, but I'm sure the newer ones will one capacities 2GB and up become commonplace.

SD is a pretty standard medium between cellphones, laptops, PDAs and cameras. Moreso than CF.

 

[Anubis]

the peopel on DPR complain because they allready own a bunch of CF cards and dont want to buy SD cards, as they woudl be useing the D50 as an extreamly cheap yet extreamly capable backup for whatever camera they had

it is the entry level DSLR so it makes sence seeing as most P&S cameras use SD now, pretty much all of them do other then teh Canons, however they are changing that

 

[TerryMathews]

I would not buy a SD-based camera, given similar price points. CF is more capable, and more future-proof. As I understand it, a device has to be coded to talk to different sizes of SD cards, just like back in the old days with SM cards. I don't want to run into a situation where I can't install a larger memory card, simply because the company in question stopped producing firmware updates 3 years ago.

CF, due to its complicated addressing nature, doesn't require the firmware to have a specific sizing table to address the card.

OTOH, from an engineering perspective, SD is much easier to implement. It can be done in as little as five wires, as evidenced by the recent SD mod for the WRT54G router. Can't wait to try it out.

 

[randomlinh]

it depends on your needs. I'm a hobbiest... if my dSLR only used SD, i wouldn't care, so long as it was fast. I probably wouldn't fill half a gig anytime soon,a nd i can carry an extra if needed.. CF/SD costs are compariable. Now, if the whole coding thing is right on, and faster SD media needed firmware updates to take advantage of it... this I'd like to get some hard proof of, one way or the other.

Even if my cameras are all CF based (which they are, minus my SD200), it wouldn't matter, i'd never interchange the memory.... so it'd be a moot point. And I think, for the casual user, this is pretty accurate (at least, from what i've seen between friends and family).

for the pro's.. yeah... i can see them investing in one thing, and upgrading, and wanting to keep the same. but, w/ that said, as brandon stated, they won't be upgrading to the d50 Altho, I'm not sure where that leaves you for an upgrade path.. unless they're moving all their camera lines to SD (or a CF/SD combo)

 

[mercanucaribe]

Why are there all these damn standards in the first place? My camera's SmartMedia card doesn't work in ANYTHING else. PDAs that only have SD slots can't use peripherals like GPS and network cards.

 

[imported_Pablo]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: sleepmachine
they probably already own alot of CF cards and don't want to buy new SD cards (all of the cameras i have are CF)

I doubt it. Someone "upgrading" to a D50 would be coming from the P&S crowd which is well populated with SD media.

I doubt someone would be downgrading from a D70 or higher grade model SLR to a D50 or cross stepping from something like 300D or XT where CF media would be in need.

Quoted for sneaky bias!

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: sleepmachine
they probably already own alot of CF cards and don't want to buy new SD cards (all of the cameras i have are CF)

I doubt it. Someone "upgrading" to a D50 would be coming from the P&S crowd which is well populated with SD media.

I doubt someone would be downgrading from a D70 or higher grade model SLR to a D50 or cross stepping from something like 300D or XT where CF media would be in need.

No, but some people (as ive seen on the DPReview forums) are buying them as a second camera or for another family member.

Or as a backup camera if they are a professional/semi-professional.

From what I have heard, SD is technologically better, and does not have the same "wear-out" characteristics of CF. It is my understanding that eventually they would like to move the whole industry over to SD. It is just hard to move the professional industry when they have invested so much. A professinal could easily have 8+ GB of CF memory...which they would have to replace if the next camera they buy does not support it.

 

[Qwest]

i hate miniSD

 

[tami]

the canon S2 IS, to be introduced at the end of this month, is SD-only. i really don't care. i think the reason why people are currently disappointed has to do with the thought that SD is more expensive than CF, which in many cases, is true. however, SD prices are coming down and for that i am grateful.

 

[Muadib]

Help a Dslr noob. What's the P&S crowd?