Why are people buying AM2?

[GundamSonicZeroX]

Well, since this thread has officially been bumped and I find the topic an interesting one, one of the reasons ppl get Am2 is because of Virtualization. My friend owns a computer shop and he runs a whole bunch of servers. He has one with an AM2 proc can't remember which one and another one with an S939 Opty and they both run virtual machines. The Am2 proc performed so much better than the S939. It made a good server for our UT2K4/CS:S LAN Party Also, I'm going to get AM2 when the platform matures and when the K8L is available.
And to those who think that OC'ing isn't worth it (not just here but on other forums too.), I think it's worth it to have an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ outperform an FX-55 at very little voltage increase.

 

[tvdang7]

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: John

Originally posted by: dexvx
They hope to upgrade in the future.

S939 is dead.

While it appears to be dead on paper it's still a viable option for most people. You still have plenty of X2 & Opteron's that are available now, and will continue to be avaiable for at least another year. AM2 is the future for AMD, but there is no reason to jump ship right now because 939 is alive and kicking.

I'm not talking about jumping ship. I'm talking about people who buy a new system. Theres literally no reason to go S939.

used cpu and mother boards can be had for like 60 and 50 which in my opinion is really cheap for same performance as the am2 counterpart.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Originally posted by: GundamSonicZeroX
Well, since this thread has officially been bumped and I find the topic an interesting one, one of the reasons ppl get Am2 is because of Virtualization. My friend owns a computer shop and he runs a whole bunch of servers. He has one with an AM2 proc can't remember which one and another one with an S939 Opty and they both run virtual machines. The Am2 proc performed so much better than the S939. It made a good server for our UT2K4/CS:S LAN Party Also, I'm going to get AM2 when the platform matures and when the K8L is available.
And to those who think that OC'ing isn't worth it (not just here but on other forums too.), I think it's worth it to have an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ outperform an FX-55 at very little voltage increase.

None of that makes sense . . . Intel had VT out on their chips before AMD released Pacifica.

I'd pick Intel any day over AMD if virtualization was important to me.

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: JPH1121
^^^ math noob.

And frankly...the e6600 for most cases that he's using will NOT out perform the FX-62...

Even with quad-sli, he's still going to be gpu limited as the quad cores just don't push out enough horsepower for 1900x1200 8xaa/16xaf from what I've read... (driver/efficiency issues I'd guess)

More CPU power for less cost is always better nonetheless, and if your talking about gaming where the GPU is the bottleneck a Dual Core Pentium D 915 or 945 will do the job just fine no need to get AMD at all.

An FX-62 is a horrible value anyway you look at it.

 

[GundamSonicZeroX]

Originally posted by: DrMrLordX

Originally posted by: GundamSonicZeroX
Well, since this thread has officially been bumped and I find the topic an interesting one, one of the reasons ppl get Am2 is because of Virtualization. My friend owns a computer shop and he runs a whole bunch of servers. He has one with an AM2 proc can't remember which one and another one with an S939 Opty and they both run virtual machines. The Am2 proc performed so much better than the S939. It made a good server for our UT2K4/CS:S LAN Party Also, I'm going to get AM2 when the platform matures and when the K8L is available.
And to those who think that OC'ing isn't worth it (not just here but on other forums too.), I think it's worth it to have an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ outperform an FX-55 at very little voltage increase.

None of that makes sense . . . Intel had VT out on their chips before AMD released Pacifica.

I'd pick Intel any day over AMD if virtualization was important to me.

He always uses AMD because he's a partner with them. And he told me that's why he was getting the AM2 CPUs. For virtualization.

 

[Makaveli]

alot of fanboys in the thread, I gotta put my flame suit on.

I actually have a question related to my current upgrade path.

This is my current rig.

http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.aspx?rigid=16172

i'll be looking to do an upgrade probably around xmas or just after.

First problem, on a S939 AGP board.
While I love my X800XTPE and it has served me well the last 2 years, she will need to be replaced.
Now I have no choice but to go PCIE. For this upgrade aswell I plan to go dual core.

2nd problem If I grab a Nforce4 board, I can go X2 dualCore S939 and reuse my DDR500 memory, and it will allow me to add in a PCIE videocard.

other option is to go DDR2, but if I do that I might aswell go Conroe, while AM2 is an option, I don't know enough about K8L only that it will work on AM2 possibly. There might also be better Am2 boards out 6-8 months from now.


And that is the problem! Do I buy an nforce4 board knowing that I won't be able to get any faster cpu's for it or memory, but it will allow videocard upgrades.

I'm still waiting to see how Vista and DX10 pans out, so i'm not in a rush to buy anything.

 

[jlbenedict]

Why do people chose to drink Pepsi, when Coca-Cola is so much tastier?

Its just one of those things we'll never find out...

 

[Kromis]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Why do people chose to drink Pepsi, when Coca-Cola is so much tastier?

Its just one of those things we'll never find out...

Pepsi has more sugar, that's why.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: jgigz
I went from a s754 to am2 and i regret every minute of it. my 3000+ ran so much smoother and better than the 3800+. I even got good mushkin ddr2 800 ram @ 4-4-3-10 and the perfomance is still lack luster. I wish i would have went to 939 and have a system i could optimize and not something Im trying to get it to perform equal to a processor thats that much older than it.

If it runs much smoother than something sounds wrong with your setup. There is no way even with memory running equal to PC3200 that your 3000+ runs smoother than a faster clocked dualcore system.

 

[Zap]

Sales of Intel's Core 2 Duo chip seem slow take off

...

When Newegg's top ten seller page was configured to show just processors, eight were from AMD. The two Intel offerings were Core 2 Duo chips - the 2MB devices, which were placed at eighth and ninth positions. The other three Core 2 Duo chips that Newegg sells are 4MB endowed, which start in price from $370 to over a thousand dollars. So those won't make an appearance on Newegg's top ten seller page anytime soon, as the most expensive chip on that list is $299.

...

Back in May when we last looked at Newegg's top ten seller page for processors, the 64-bit capable AMD Sempron 2800+ was the top seller. But things have been turned upside down since the Intel Core 2 Duo launch. No Semprons appear on Newegg's leader board. The new top selling champ is the AMD Athlon 64 3000+, which now looks very good value at only $66.

...

Regardless of all this bickering over performance this and fanboy that... the best sellers will be the cheapest bang-for-buck. Same reason why the Honda Accord outsells the Acura versions of the same chassis. Sure, we all know that the Acura version is more powerful and more luxurious, but the people putting down their hard earned cash are voting for the Accord.

Same thing with CPUs. By now we should all KNOW that the 4MB cache Core 2 Duo chips are da bomb, but people voting with their cash are saying "give me cheap, under $100 CPUs that perform well." At this time that CPU happens to be the single core A64.

 

[Makaveli]

Very true Zap, this will allow alot of people to get off Older cpu's like athlon Xp's and Northwood P4's. Hopefully it will mean a bigger install base of Athlon64's. which will also mean a much better lowend systems out there, which will also help game developers.

 

[Bobthelost]

Just built a budget machine for websurfing.

Semperon 3000
M2NPV -MX
1GB RAM
etc.

Cheap as chips, damned near silent (I cheated and used my old 4 pipe X2 stock cooling instead of the crap they gave me, wonder if my warranty is still intact ), IGP with support for two monitors and low power draw.

 

[BitByBit]

I'm personally waiting to see what Revision G brings to the table. Hopefully, as the rumours suggest, it'll be more than a die shrink and may actually be a credible alternative to Core.

 

[Geomagick]

I recently built an AM2 based micro atx setup for my dad.

My reasons for using AM2.

Best motherboard features at price point compared to both 939 and 775
Good value price was equivalent to 939 setup but more features on mobo swung it.
All the kit was available ready to ship.

An the end result - my dad is pleased to bits with his new setup - its faster than anything he has experience before, more stable and quieter.

 

[aka1nas]

Originally posted by: DrMrLordX

Originally posted by: GundamSonicZeroX
Well, since this thread has officially been bumped and I find the topic an interesting one, one of the reasons ppl get Am2 is because of Virtualization. My friend owns a computer shop and he runs a whole bunch of servers. He has one with an AM2 proc can't remember which one and another one with an S939 Opty and they both run virtual machines. The Am2 proc performed so much better than the S939. It made a good server for our UT2K4/CS:S LAN Party Also, I'm going to get AM2 when the platform matures and when the K8L is available.
And to those who think that OC'ing isn't worth it (not just here but on other forums too.), I think it's worth it to have an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ outperform an FX-55 at very little voltage increase.

None of that makes sense . . . Intel had VT out on their chips before AMD released Pacifica.

I'd pick Intel any day over AMD if virtualization was important to me.

I thought both pacifica and VT are slower than software virtualization in their current forms?

 

[DrMrLordX]

Originally posted by: aka1nas


I thought both pacifica and VT are slower than software virtualization in their current forms?

I heard that as well, though there are some elements of VT and Pacifica which can still be useful when using VMware and the like. Honestly I wish I knew more about it, but this is only coming third-hand.

 

[Regs]

I don't know why either Zebo. 939 is good enough for me. As it for being dead ... well at least I will be able to get a X2. That's if AMD discontinues it for 939. Then that's AMD's problem because they wont get my money - and I'm sure I wont be the only not too.

 

[Pabster]

"939 is good enough for me"

That's what all the 754 folks said at one time too.

You'll see the light one day

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: Pabster
"939 is good enough for me"

That's what all the 754 folks said at one time too.

You'll see the light one day

That was mostly because of PCI-Express.