Why are conservatives so hateful, usually over nothing? Lizzo

[woolfe9998]

I'll answer that. Media makes those decisions basked on what they think is the audience. Why are the murdered blonde college students getting 10x more press when I can produce lists of missing minorities? Paul Weiland was much older news and people have a short attention span.

Why won't the hateful righties admit the decision to release Griner was Putin's not Bidens. They would rather go with their made up narrative and Putin knows they will do this. Made sense to bring Griner home given the choice.

Yeah I suppose, but I don't think Whelan's case ever got much media attention even when it was new.

I also wonder about the lopsidedness of the transaction. TBH, I'm a bit pissed at Griner for bringing weed into a foerign country which is a hostile dictatorship. I don't believe her for a second when she says it was an accident. I wouldn't believe anyone using that excuse/defense. I'm glad she's home, but it makes me queasy who we had to let out to get it done.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Yeah I suppose, but I don't think Whelan's case ever got much media attention even when it was new.

I also wonder about the lopsidedness of the transaction. TBH, I'm a bit pissed at Griner for bringing weed into a foerign country which is a hostile dictatorship. I don't believe her for a second when she says it was an accident. I wouldn't believe anyone using that excuse/defense. I'm glad she's home, but it makes me queasy who we had to let out to get it done.

when I read about Whelan (going by memory here), he wasn’t much of an upstanding citizen and bragged openly to family about his KGB connection(s).

He was a dishonorable discharge from an admin role in marines.

I’m a list fuzzy on details, but that’s what I can recall.

I bet the media looked into it and said “meh”

 

[Pohemi]

There's also the notion that (according to so-far released info) Russia simply isn't willing to release Whelan. He's being held for espionage, compared to Griner being for possession.

I don't disagree that it 'hurt' to let the Dealer of Death go, but I'd have felt that way no matter who they traded him for. It isn't because "Griner wasn't worth the trade".

The media parade differences between the two? Whelan was a contractor with a questionable history and military record, as ch33zw1z said. Griner is a professional athlete. Not saying that it's justified, but there it is.

 

[rommelrommel]

When you look into Whelan his history is interesting… Marine reservist with bad conduct discharge after attempting theft, fraud, and somehow becomes head of global security for a big auto parts company.

That he was doing something suspect in Russia doesn’t seem all that improbable.

 

[woolfe9998]

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[MrSquished]

Maybe if they lived closer to nature they'd be better people as cities are styming or connection to nature and goodness.

Oh wait, the highest ratio of racist ignorant conservatives to people are in more rural areas and outside of urban centers.


Hmmm. Let me rethink this.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Maybe if they lived closer to nature they'd be better people as cities are styming or connection to nature and goodness.

Oh wait, the highest ratio of racist ignorant conservatives to people are in more rural areas and outside of urban centers.


Hmmm. Let me rethink this.

those darn rural tree huggers

 

[Pohemi]

those darn rural tree huggers

Corn Field Mafia, the rural arm of Antifa

 

[cytg111]

As a direct response the US could sweeten the pot with 100 reaper drones to Ukraine.

 

[cytg111]

I had an argument on facebook yesterday over some guys having a laugh over a trans meme, it went back and forth, at some point someone asked if I felt personally hit by the “joke” to which I responded “would it be better for you if I did?” - Unanimously responded “yes”. Obviously cause they’d feel a sense of joy if they could make me feel sad. (Only true response to something like that is “I love you guys so much. Kisses”. and move on)

Fucked up people flock with other fucked up people. You cant cure that. Its not conservatism per se, conservatism is just the part of the townsquare where they’re allowed outside in the sun. So naturally they flock there.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Corn Field Mafia, the rural arm of Antifa

We jest, but my point kinda was that those same rural folks that supposedly reap benefits of the outdoors (unwittingly it seems) would be mocking others for desiring quality time with nature and not wants to pillage the planet for the wealthy's benefit

 

[senseamp]

Hate is easier to sell than their actual product, which is trickle down economics.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I'm still mystified by all of it. I thought I was making progress with my cousin, who just turned 60. No college; attended trade-school to be an auto mechanic. he writes better than my brother who went to a JC for two years.

His latest rant is about George Soros and "the Globalists". Didn't he look up Soros and "globalism" on Wikipedia? Oh! I see! The Libs and progressives "own" Wiki. His trouble about Soros is that the latter picked several local cities to support the campaigns of "progressive" (pro-BLM) district-attorney candidates. So? What about all the dark-money PACs and the Koch brothers, together will all the other Rightie billionaires?

I suspect cuz is racist. But where is he a "loser" because of BLM or progressives? He's going through a bitter divorce -- that's about it. His limited wealth and income (a CAL-PERS pension) arise from his choice of professions or trades -- he's not poor, but each square on the chessboard of life has limited prospects (for instance, I picked Federal civil service). Since I know my uncle, who often praised George Wallace whom he knew in the Army Air Corps during WWII, I can understand cuz's ignorance.

But it's not common sense. Think about it.

 

[rommelrommel]

As a direct response the US could sweeten the pot with 100 reaper drones to Ukraine.

I know the world doesn’t work this way, but maybe a public offer to not give Ukraine a few hundred ATACMS in return for Whelan’s release?

And then give them a few hundred ground launch tomahawk.

 

[Moonbeam]

.......tell me why conservatives hate on this person just because of who she is.

What we see in this thread are the symptoms of conservative racism, what it looks like in action as if those descriptions explain why it exists, the why of it. The real problem, however, is that even though we may ask a question does not mean we want hear or are even capable or emotionally prepared for the answer. I think that is the problem here.

The way I see it, the answer to your question can only be seen when one has come to terms with a paradox that exists with us, that outward hate is a projection of inner feelings we are not aware we experience. We hate what we fear and what we fear is being like what we hate based on the fact that we were long ago taught what it means to be hated like that. We were compared to evil and shown the proper hate that should be directed at it when it appears.

Racists are taught that if they were black they would be despised, yes, but the way they are taught that is that, before they learned the rules, the love and empathy they would naturally express for any other human being regardless of color or anything else, they were murdered for expressing. They were taught that not being a racist made them worthless and evil, and they were taught that by being treated themselves as if they were Black. They were taught every other bigotry in exactly the same way.

We hate, then, what we are afraid to be. In this way they are imprisoned in profoundly limited lives walking on a knife edge.

If you are afraid of being a conservative racist you will have the same issues, hatred for that evil other. How can you pity yourself if you can't pity others. There is no healing without understanding that the evil we see in the world is how we feel about ourselves.

Who wants to know that?

 

[cytg111]

Oh moonie we kill it not cause we hate it we kill it cause we understand it.

 

[IronWing]

Did James Madison play the flute, any flute? Was it just swag to show guests? Did he have his slaves play the flute to entertain him or his guests? Does any of this matter? A musician played music and people decided to be butthurt? Sounds pretty loserish to me.

 

[MtnMan]

Republicans have nothing on their side of the ledger. No plans, no solutions, no fixes, no ideas, thus the only thing they can do is attack these qualities when others offer them as a path forward. They are a miserable collection of failures, thus that is what they project.

 

[nOOky]

Yeah I suppose, but I don't think Whelan's case ever got much media attention even when it was new.

I also wonder about the lopsidedness of the transaction. TBH, I'm a bit pissed at Griner for bringing weed into a foerign country which is a hostile dictatorship. I don't believe her for a second when she says it was an accident. I wouldn't believe anyone using that excuse/defense. I'm glad she's home, but it makes me queasy who we had to let out to get it done.

Yea I had to shake my head at the whole THC oil thing or whatever it was. Anyone who thinks that's a good idea bringing any unusual substance into Russia is kind of dense. But I'm not pissed that she's back home, I'm very glad for her and her family. My co-worker got kicked out of Canada back in the 80's for carrying weed if you can believe that lol.

 

[Moonbeam]

Oh moonie we kill it not cause we hate it we kill it cause we understand it.

What can a person of understand be told about his or her lack of understanding. The acquisition of a humility and personal ignorance doesn't come as much from knowing but knowing you don't know. You may have a lot to unlearn to go down that road.

In the sea there are treasures beyond compare but if you seek safety it is on the shore.

Down is up.

In our culture we ascribe the worst of character to people who are ignorant. In this way we have all been humiliated. It is an excellent way to put people in a prison. Make them feel stupid if they seek. Tell them they are only of value if they insist they know already.

 

[MrSquished]

Conservatives live in nature. Where bad behavior is not a perception, just a reality. Nature cures all ails as we know.

 

[HomerJS]

Most of us know the real story of Brittney Griner's release. It was either take her or nothing. Republicans have decided that is a good reason to attack her. She will now be subject to death threats and harassment by their lunatic base.
Republicans make major move against Brittney Griner (msn.com)

There was recently a ceremony honoring people who helped protect Democracy including officers attacked on Jan 6. Giess how many Republicans attended that ceremony? One. Republicans never cease to remind everyone they are nothing but soulless dirtbags.
Video: Only 1 Republican showed up for House Jan. 6 ceremony. Hear former DC police officer's reaction | CNN Politics

 

[senseamp]

Conservatism can't function without someone to hate. Trickle down isn't selling by itself.

 

[Heartbreaker]

They have been trained for decades, by their political masters, to be that way. Fox news and other Right wing media are outrage factories. They scream all day, every day, that this terrible thing is happening that, you must be angry about.

They want to keep conservatives angry so they don't think, and do what they are told.

A reasonable, cool headed, critical thinking conservative (hypothetical at this point), wouldn't vote for policies against their own interest, or policies that drag America into the dark ages, but an angry one will just blindly vote against the evil socialist, pedophile, infidel, lizard people.

Keeping them outraged and angry, and they are so easy to manipulate.

 

[Pohemi]

They have been trained for decades, by their political masters, to be that way. Fox news and other Right wing media are outrage factories. They scream all day, every day, that this terrible thing is happening that, you must be angry about.

They want to keep conservatives angry so they don't think, and do what they are told.

Keeping them outraged and angry, and they are so easy to manipulate.

In before the #bOtHsIdEs clowns start braying.

Democrats get angry and even indignant as well, but it's (for the most part) not from watching political angertainment passing itself off as news. It tends to be due to the shit-headed, spiteful, anti-human actions/legislation and political fuckery that conservatards are attempting at any given moment. Conservatives have to literally make shit up because they can't get their base angry about Democrats trying to help them.