Why are Asian kids so well behaved compared to other children?

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mephiston5

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With just casual observation as my only reference point, Asian kids, on average, seem to be better behaved than other children...at least in public.

Why is that? "Better" parenting styles, just a culture thing?
 

Ns1

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it's the beatings that really make the submissiveness stick
 

BassBomb

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it's the beatings that really make the submissiveness stick

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but really in public they arent that well behaved... just when they go wrong they know whats coming

its funny when white people try to make deals with their kids or discipline with stern tone in a store and it never works
 

iGas

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Haven't you notice how screwed up/immature some Asian individuals are?

It could be the cane as suggested but IMHO it is the incessant nagging from their mother that keeps them in line.

<----- Asian
 

MJinZ

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How old? Under a certain age, definitely not.

Over a certain age, do you mean "well behaved" as in not pulling out a gun and robbing people, carjacking etc?
 

BoomerD

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How old? Under a certain age, definitely not.

Over a certain age, do you mean "well behaved" as in not pulling out a gun and robbing people, carjacking etc?

We have a relatively small Ornamental population here, yet the ornamental kids seem to be into all sorts of crime...

We have a fairly large Hmong community (think Gran Torino) who are into all kinds of shit constantly.

On a similar note...WTF is up with the high-pitched screechy voices Asian women seem to use when yelling at their kids/others?
Makes me want to take a pair of pliers and rip their mouths out.
 

MJinZ

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We have a relatively small Ornamental population here, yet the ornamental kids seem to be into all sorts of crime...

We have a fairly large Hmong community (think Gran Torino) who are into all kinds of shit constantly.

On a similar note...WTF is up with the high-pitched screechy voices Asian women seem to use when yelling at their kids/others?
Makes me want to take a pair of pliers and rip their mouths out.

Ornamental?

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Pliablemoose

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I think its because Asian parents are that much better at parenting.

And Asian parents understand and believe in the concept of generational shame. ie if you fuck up, it reflects on your family... We gave that up decades ago, and I dont think thats a good thing in many cases.
 
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In China and Taiwan, students are (most/all of the time) well behaved and non-disruptive in class. Call it whatever you want, but I think its more of filial piety than physical discipline. Note that I refer to Chinese and Taiwanese in particular and not generalizing the Southeast Asians because these are the two groups I've actually experienced in the classroom.

The parents of kids that are uncontrollable lack the necessary insight to PROPERLY raise their children which is further compounded with their lack of ability to PROPERLY discipline their kids (whether it be physical discipline or passive methods).
 

Ronstang

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I think its because Asian parents are that much better at parenting.

So you think autocratic dominance of every aspect of a child's life that often lasts through young adulthood and sometimes later is good parenting? It's a balance which you should know being a parent. Most of the Asians I have known over the years were so terrified of disappointing their parents that it truly affected their social development.
 

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We have a relatively small Ornamental population here, yet the ornamental kids seem to be into all sorts of crime...

We have a fairly large Hmong community (think Gran Torino) who are into all kinds of shit constantly.

On a similar note...WTF is up with the high-pitched screechy voices Asian women seem to use when yelling at their kids/others?
Makes me want to take a pair of pliers and rip their mouths out.

So what sort of crime/trouble you see they get into? I also live around Norman, OK so please enlighten me. I have read many of your posts and sounds to me like you have some baggage left over from the war that you need to let go instead of keep bashing Asians with nonsense BSs. My dad went to that war too and thankfully he didn't have anywhere near such an ugly and small minded attitude when he came back.

"Makes me want to take a pair of pliers and rip their mouths out"

What are you, a psychopath?

Don't be such a bitter old man and take the ugliness of yourself and spread it around other people.

You're old enough, dude, so live and let live.
 

dbk

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I think its because Asian parents are that much better at parenting.

And Asian parents understand and believe in the concept of generational shame. ie if you fuck up, it reflects on your family... We gave that up decades ago, and I dont think thats a good thing in many cases.

This is true - they know how to throw that guilt around..
 

BlueAcolyte

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I (Asian, 16) think it's because of a few factors.

My parents taught me what was right, what I was expected to do, and what was important. (At least from their view) They felt it was important that I turned out even more successful then they did.

Based on my childhood, I do believe that Asian parents (Including my own) are less averse to punishment of any kind, and that in general, their children could feel a lack of control and a fear of disappointing them. My parents are relatively understanding compared to other parents; I know kids who do more work than I do, and a few of those are sick.

I'm disappointed at some of the replies in this thread; I don't appreciate being stereotyped.
 

CKent

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Same reason they're good at math, their culture holds intelligence in high esteem while intelligence is the worst trait you can have in America (although if you're smart enough to hide it you're ok).
 

BoomerD

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Oh noes...I've been flamed by a newbie...

WWYBYWB?



So what sort of crime/trouble you see they get into? I also live around Norman, OK so please enlighten me.


Around here, the Hmong gangs are into all sorts of shit. Drugs, car theft, you name it. Maybe in Norman Oklahomie they're nicer, better behaved kids...:rolleyes:



I have read many of your posts and sounds to me like you have some baggage left over from the war that you need to let go instead of keep bashing Asians with nonsense BSs.


FWIW, my personal experience with the Hmong people is good. I fought along side many of them in Vietnam and other parts of Uncle Sam's IndoChinese vacation wonderland. Good people, perhaps the fiercest Communist-hating fighters I knew at the time. Quite often, they had lost entire families to the Communists...and had a level of hatred we Americans didn't have. (although boot camp did a good job of teaching us to hate the "gooks."

I had a good deal of respect for those fine Hmong warriors. Their Americanized kids...not so much.



My dad went to that war too and thankfully he didn't have anywhere near such an ugly and small minded attitude when he came back.

I'm glad to hear that your dad came home in one piece. Many didn't. Many either came home missing lots of parts & pieces, or else came home with severe PTSD. Some of the things seen in war can't be unseen...some things should NEVER be seen by a sentinent human being. It changes you...not always for the better.
Tell him Boomer says, "Welcome Home." (that's something we didn't get when we returned from that war.)



Originally Posted by BoomerD
Makes me want to take a pair of pliers and rip their mouths out"

What are you, a psychopath?

Don't be such a bitter old man and take the ugliness of yourself and spread it around other people.


Perhaps I am a psychopath...or perhaps I have zero tolerance for that sort of behavior. Screeching is not acceptable to me in any form.



You're old enough, dude, so live and let live.


Actually, I DO "let live." I haven't killed anyone that I'll admit to in more than 38 years...well...except for that one time in Oldsmoboat's basement...but we never talk about that...
 

Lean L

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Oh noes...I've been flamed by a newbie...

WWYBYWB?






Around here, the Hmong gangs are into all sorts of shit. Drugs, car theft, you name it. Maybe in Norman Oklahomie they're nicer, better behaved kids...:rolleyes:






FWIW, my personal experience with the Hmong people is good. I fought along side many of them in Vietnam and other parts of Uncle Sam's IndoChinese vacation wonderland. Good people, perhaps the fiercest Communist-hating fighters I knew at the time. Quite often, they had lost entire families to the Communists...and had a level of hatred we Americans didn't have. (although boot camp did a good job of teaching us to hate the "gooks."

I had a good deal of respect for those fine Hmong warriors. Their Americanized kids...not so much.





I'm glad to hear that your dad came home in one piece. Many didn't. Many either came home missing lots of parts & pieces, or else came home with severe PTSD. Some of the things seen in war can't be unseen...some things should NEVER be seen by a sentinent human being. It changes you...not always for the better.
Tell him Boomer says, "Welcome Home." (that's something we didn't get when we returned from that war.)






Perhaps I am a psychopath...or perhaps I have zero tolerance for that sort of behavior. Screeching is not acceptable to me in any form.






Actually, I DO "let live." I haven't killed anyone that I'll admit to in more than 38 years...well...except for that one time in Oldsmoboat's basement...but we never talk about that...

self pwn
 

Pliablemoose

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So you think autocratic dominance of every aspect of a child's life that often lasts through young adulthood and sometimes later is good parenting? It's a balance which you should know being a parent. Most of the Asians I have known over the years were so terrified of disappointing their parents that it truly affected their social development.

So they got good grades, behaved well, and became physicians, engineers, and scientists.

I think that's a reasonable trade off for society, instead of claiming that the public education system is responsible for an our of control child not being able to read or balance a checkbook as an adult.

Our system of being supportive of failure/piss poor performance is going to kill us as a country.
 

Ronstang

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So they got good grades, behaved well, and became physicians, engineers, and scientists.

I think that's a reasonable trade off for society, instead of claiming that the public education system is responsible for an our of control child not being able to read or balance a checkbook as an adult.

Our system of being supportive of failure/piss poor performance is going to kill us as a country.

Those are two different issues. It IS your responsibility to see that your kids are motivated, driven, and learn the right tools.....that sure is not going to happen in the public school system. That does not mean you have to take the same approach Asian parents do. You can achieve the same results without having your kids insecure and socially challenged.
 

bdude

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Those are two different issues. It IS your responsibility to see that your kids are motivated, driven, and learn the right tools.....that sure is not going to happen in the public school system. That does not mean you have to take the same approach Asian parents do. You can achieve the same results without having your kids insecure and socially challenged.

Got any successful happy kids to your name? No? Hm, must be your terrible parenting skills.
 
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