Why all the Palin angst?

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Is it truly because there is small chance that a conservative home-maker may finally break that last glass ceiling instead of a true feminist like Hillary?

Is that where all this anti-Palin anger is coming from?

 

Ldir

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I think it is because she sounds like an extremist wingnut, like she's George W Bush II.
 

Farang

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Because it wasn't a harmless pander, McCain did not pick the most qualified person and instead he picked a woman solely so he could go after the woman vote and accuse the other side of sexism (which they are quick enough to do you know they'd planned it all along). A key theme of Obama's stump speech isn't "Let's elect the first black President" but her main theme is electing a woman to the Vice Presidency. I don't believe a vagina is relevant qualification for that office.
 

nageov3t

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because when people say they're tired of the politics of division and negativity, what they mean is they're tired of the other guy using the politics of division and negativity.
 

alchemize

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Too bad his followers don't follow his advice:

?We don?t go after people?s families. We don?t get them involved in the politics. It?s not appropriate and it?s not relevant. Our people were not involved in any way in this and they will not be. And if I ever thought there was somebody in my campaign that was involved in something like that, they?d be fired,? Obama said.

Obama also said: ?This shouldn?t be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin?s performance as a governor or potential performance as a vice president. So I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories.?

 

Farang

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The pregnancy is not relevant to why this choice should outrage Americans and I don't know why you'd bring it up.
 

Thump553

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The main reason I'm upset is that it is concrete evidence of the implusive nature of McCain's decision making process. While this may be a good trait for a fighter pilot having a commander in chief act so recklessly scares the bejesus out of me. I used to admire McCain, now I'm worried if he is elected he could end up being a worse president than the present Bush.

That coupled with the fact she was selected purely as a token-the crassness gauls me.
 

RKDaley

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It is nice to not have the many Obama threads though.
But why was there a lot of Obama threads before? Was that angst too?
 

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Maybe it's not angst, but uncertainty. The debates will let the voters see both candidates on a level playing field. The moment that Sarah Palin throws down the gauntlet and says "bring it on", that will give Joe Biden the green light to shred her and expose her for what she is.
 

Ldir

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Originally posted by: Farang
The pregnancy is not relevant to why this choice should outrage Americans and I don't know why you'd bring it up.

To distract attention from her real problems.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: RKDaley
It is nice to not have the many Obama threads though.
But why was there a lot of Obama threads before? Was that angst too?
Wouldn't a better comparison be Biden?

 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: badnewcastle
It's because they know Paulin is a serious threat to Obama loosing.

yup

Nope. As was said above, McCain just opened up a large weakness. People have been waiting for one for awhile, and they pounced on it. Being that she's hot she would have gotten a bunch of attention anyway, but the fact that she has all these ridiculous stories in her background makes all that attention negative.

Like I said the day I heard it, an exceedingly poor VP choice.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: Farang
The pregnancy is not relevant to why this choice should outrage Americans and I don't know why you'd bring it up.

To distract attention from her real problems.
You might want to mention that to your leftie pals who seem to be fascinated with the discussion of her "pregnancy" her daughters pregnancy, what O'Reilly thinks about it, etc.
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Farang
Because it wasn't a harmless pander, McCain did not pick the most qualified person and instead he picked a woman solely so he could go after the woman vote and accuse the other side of sexism (which they are quick enough to do you know they'd planned it all along). A key theme of Obama's stump speech isn't "Let's elect the first black President" but her main theme is electing a woman to the Vice Presidency. I don't believe a vagina is relevant qualification for that office.

Kind of curious, then, how tons of Democrats screamed at Bush for nominating 2 men to the Supreme Court, a position that has much more power than the VP.

Apparently a vagina was relevant there.
 

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A would be book banner who ran against a Lutheran under the banner "?We will have our first Christian mayor"?

A "fiscal conservative" who increased the taxes 38% in her time in office as mayor while taking the SMALL town from zero debt to 22 million in debt, primarily to build a sports complex in a town that STILL doesn't have a sewage treatment plant or very good roads?

A radical religious fundamentalist who, if elected, will be a heartbeat away from the Presidency?

A choice so desperate and pandering and rushed that she was not even vetted thoroughly by the very people who chose her?

A person who NOW says she is against earmarks, but who, as mayor of a town of 6,000 or so people, hired a paid lobbyist to go to Washington to suck off the federal teat and came away with 28 million dollars worth of earmarks, out of our tax money?

Yeah, really, why have any further scrutiny of her at all? Nothing to see here! Move along, move along. :roll:



 

Moonbeam

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I think there is genuine concern McSenile nominated a total nobody out of right field who has no qualifications at all to be President simply to try to win an election, and the consequences, if he dies, be damned. It's damn sad and pathetic.
 
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Speaking as a Democrat, I am loving the whole thing. She is a questionable choice at best, and it's apparent she wasn't thoroughly vetted - more of an impulse buy, like the National Enquirer and gum in the supermarket. I have posted this in another thread, but it reminds me of President Bush's choice of Harriet Miers for the Supreme Court. When the dust settles Palin will be a liability to her ticket, not an asset, and she will provide a whole lot of entertainment in the process.
 

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The more attention that is paid indicate the more concerned the opposition is about her.

In the past, the VP choice has been more of a non issue.

This may be the first time in recent history that the VP choice seems to be not for geographical ties, but for countering percieved weaknesses in your own plank or exposing issues on the other's.

And the Dems seemed to be much more concerned about Palin than the Rep do about Biden.

To paraphrase a an old saying: "Doths that protest to loudly, have something to fear"

Palin may have that ability to pull in independents and the female vote.
That scares the Dems much more than her policies.
 
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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Farang
Because it wasn't a harmless pander, McCain did not pick the most qualified person and instead he picked a woman solely so he could go after the woman vote and accuse the other side of sexism (which they are quick enough to do you know they'd planned it all along). A key theme of Obama's stump speech isn't "Let's elect the first black President" but her main theme is electing a woman to the Vice Presidency. I don't believe a vagina is relevant qualification for that office.

Kind of curious, then, how tons of Democrats screamed at Bush for nominating 2 men to the Supreme Court, a position that has much more power than the VP.

Apparently a vagina was relevant there.

I don't recall any "screaming," but in any case to the extent there was any disappointment that Bush didn't pick a woman for the Court, it was because he was replacing a woman (the same dynamic motivated the elder Bush to pick the laughably unqualified Clarence Thomas to replace black justice Thurgood Marshall.

I for one don't fault McCain for picking a female running mate, I fault him for picking a horribly unqualified female running mate. There are any number of females who would have been more viable candidates, like Kay Bailey Hutchison, Ann Richards, hell, even Condoleezza Rice. Instead he picked an unknown with almost no relevant experience for the most cynical political reasons. I just can't applaud or even condone that.

For what it's worth, it simply isn't true IMO that being an associate justice on the Supreme Court is a more powerful position that being the President Pro Tem of the Senate and having the President's ear, and particularly not when the President is a physically frail man in his 70s.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: badnewcastle
It's because they know Paulin is a serious threat to Obama loosing.

yup

Well yes and no. I'm worried that IF Obama "looses" that McCain may not live out his first term, making the Mayor of Whoville the most powerful person in the world. That should worry everyone.

Seriously, coming off W who has a record of appointing the most unqualified people to the highest posts (Harriet? Gonzales? Brownie???) McCain started off his first meaningful personnel decision with, not a thud, but a freaking implosion.

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Is it truly because there is small chance that a conservative home-maker may finally break that last glass ceiling instead of a true feminist like Hillary?

Is that where all this anti-Palin anger is coming from?

Yes, clearly, the democrats, the party that 50% voted for a women for PRESIDENT, is upset with Palin as VP not because of her record and lack thereof, but because she has a vagina. Well played.
 
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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

To paraphrase a an old saying: "Doths that protest to loudly, have something to fear"

This is some bizarre paraphrasing of "the lady doth protest too much." You do know that "doth" is a verb (meaning "does"), not a noun, right?