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Why all the candidate controversy?

Saint Nick

Saint Nick

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Does this happen every year? I've only been able to vote for the past three terms, so I don't have a lot of experience in the political realm. I feel like Ron Paul is the only one going into the race without bring a bunch of private/additional baggage with him. He seems to be the only candidate who is talking straight.
 
Do you people have a script of what to post in what sequence?

Ron paul loves freedom.

Media hates ron paul

Ron paul will everything.

Ron Paul. Ron Paul. Ron Paul.

Paulbot spam didn't work in the last election, why do you think it will work now?
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It's much worse this time since there's a large field of Republicans running. The media has pulled out all the stops to spew puke on all the candidates while Obama is running unopposed and uncovered. Things will settle down to the usual left-wing press bias when the primaries are over.
 
Pretty much has happened all along. It seems worse this time for two reasons. First the GOP is running a very large slate of third tier candidates-the sort that wouldn't attract real scrutiny ordinarily because they would be #5 in the polls.

Secondly, in the days of YouTube and the internet, for all but the most obscure candidate there is a treasure trove of information far more easily available than in the past.

Herman Cain is an excellent example. Very little attention was paid to him until he hit the top of the polls, which he got to only because of the very weak slate.

Mono's a bit dingy finding a left wing media conspiracy-reporters and media companies always strive for the scoop, the expose-regardless of who is involved. That's how they make the reputation and money. Besides, there is a lot of truth to the old saying that sunlight is the best disinfectant. I guess he would prefer the GOP to get a free pass.
 
Nope, but I really would like to see balanced coverage. You talk as if this presidential election is the only election that's being covered or has ever been covered.
 
Saint Nick said:
I feel like Ron Paul is the only one going into the race without bring a bunch of private/additional baggage with him.
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Is this a joke? How about his incredible history of racism? That's pretty serious baggage. The media just doesn't talk about it because it is aligned with Paul, but it's definitely gotten out and will prevent him from going anywhere.
 
yes, in the US-of-KKK-A, there's always a lot of controversy as guns for hire research teams dig up anything they can to throw at their political opponents.
 
monovillage said:
It's much worse this time since there's a large field of Republicans running. The media has pulled out all the stops to spew puke on all the candidates while Obama is running unopposed and uncovered. Things will settle down to the usual left-wing press bias when the primaries are over.
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Did you ever consider that the problem isn't the media, but the quality of candidates that are running?
 
The GOP has fielded a really lousy batch of candidates this time. There is little that any of them can point to with any truth about their own qualifications and standing to be President, so they all shout "But I'm better than him! Here's how flawed everybody else is!". And it's easy to do since they are all so flawed. It's funny to watch.
 
Many on the right, left, and center like Ron Paul for some of his anti-war and anti-censorship ideas. The Ron Paul problem is that the rest of his Libertarian ideas are totally unworkable.

After all folks, it no accident that we can't find a single example of a Libertarian government in the history of the planet. An unregulated government would simply become the toy of only the rich.

And while all utopian schemes look good on paper, they always flop when put into practice.
 
RabidMongoose said:
Is this a joke? How about his incredible history of racism? That's pretty serious baggage. The media just doesn't talk about it because it is aligned with Paul, but it's definitely gotten out and will prevent him from going anywhere.
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Not only does Ron Paul have a vast history of incredible racism, but he talks straight? Of course not. He talks of the Constitution and civil liberties, but he's actually against them.
 
RabidMongoose said:
Is this a joke? How about his incredible history of racism? That's pretty serious baggage. The media just doesn't talk about it because it is aligned with Paul, but it's definitely gotten out and will prevent him from going anywhere.
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"because it is aligned with Paul"? The media? Aligned with Ron Paul? What planet do you live on?

The media is trying its absolute best to ignore and inconsequentialize Paul.
 
Kadarin said:
"because it is aligned with Paul"? The media? Aligned with Ron Paul? What planet do you live on?

The media is trying its absolute best to ignore and inconsequentialize Paul.
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If the media focused on Paul, he would be completely destroyed due in part to his racist history. He would be viewed as a monster. By ignoring him, they are doing him a favor.

Paul doesn't want their cameras trained on him, and the media is obliging. They need to keep the circus going.
 
The problem Paul will have is that his newsletters show that either he's somewhat rascist, or he was selling his name with no regard as to how it was used. Neither looks that good.
 
Face the facts, there are far more registered democratic and Independents than there are registered to vote in GOP primaries.

In 2008 Ron Paul could not even pull in 5% of the GOP primary vote in any of the early primaries. And his later wins came only as a protest vote after McCain had locked up the GOP nomination.

This year, Ron Paul GOP is averaging about 20% of the GOP primary vote. Maybe impressive so far, but as various GOP candidates drop out, the new GOP question may become, can Ron Paul pull in 40-50% of the later GOP primary vote. And if and when Ron Paul wins the GOP nomination, the bar raises far higher, because the GOP voters are a minority, Ron Paul will need all GOP votes plus the ability to peel off enough independent and democratic voters to reach 50.1% of the general election voters.

So far, IMHO, the media has been kind to Ron Paul by basically ignoring him most of the time. While still granting him a soapbox to denounce our too aggressive foreign policy and other too big government issues.

But if the media and other entities start to really delve into all Ron Paul fibertarian fantasies, and what it would mean to the average American, Ron Paul support would drop to near zero.
 
Saint Nick said:
What are you talking about???
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There are alot of people who are ignorant, or chemically imbalanced...

so when they see Ron Paul saying reasonable things, they can't handle it. These people prefer to side with honest guys like newt gingrich who cheat on their wives and take bail out money for questionable services rendered.
 
Also, there's just soo much more dirt to toss around this time.

Newt is a prick who's cheated on his wife, takes money he shouldn't, wanted an open marriage, and thinks he's smarter than everyone. He's a smart guy on somethings, but has been caught with foot in mouth syndrome on many occasions where he doesn't the typical ATPN political shill divert, dodge, and never admit to being wrong crap.

Mitt Romney has a questionable background with his finances. His political actions in the past seem to be completely different than what he has stated are so. His silly claims about his healthplan being RADICALLY different than obamacare was stupid. He reminds me of McCain saying whatever he can to the person for whom he's speaking towards to get them to get their vote.

Ron Paul is a self admitted bigot. While his political actions and views haven't clashed that much, like Romney's or Newt's, he just reminds me of the guy trying to lay as low as possible to hope no one else digs up any more skeletons he may have.

Rick Perry is a religious nut, stupid as shit, and a stereotypical Texas hick. He has no business running for any office let alone the highest. Glad his ass is out of the running.

Bachmann is just Perry without a dick and more annoying to listen to. Glad she's out too.

Cain was a retarded womanizer. Glad he's gone.

I don't know much about Santorum except he supported the current form of SOPA. I also don't know much about Huntsman. Neither Santorum nor Huntsman really seem to be much in the running to care much about 🙁 There are a few more candidates running, but they are even lower in the standings to look up much info about them at this juncture.
 
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