Who's lying, Rice or the CIA?

[Moonbeam]

Rice says the CIA

 

[AvesPKS]

Which is funny, because the CIA had urged the White House not to include the uranium information in the SOTU...

 

[MonkeyK]

And moreover, whether the CIA cleared the Uranium statement or not, did Bush or other reviewers of the statement know that it was false.

 

[tnitsuj]

It doesn't matter. You will never be able to prove it either way.


Plausible Deniability. Learn It. Live It.

 

[phillyTIM]

yeah it doesn't really matter, they are playing the "scape goat" game right now, lookin' for a fall guy

it's all a matter of convenience for this Regime

 

[HappyGamer2]

But bush is supposed to be the boss, well he isn't.
it's his fault no matter what, take the heat and blame or step down.

PS: I am sick having a retarded runt punk as pres

 

[AvesPKS]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
yeah it doesn't really matter, they are playing the "scape goat" game right now, lookin' for a fall guy

it's all a matter of convenience for this Regime

Yep. That's how it goes in Washington.

 

[phillyTIM]

Originally posted by: HappyGamer2
But bush is supposed to be the boss, well he isn't.
it's his fault no matter what, take the heat and blame or step down.

PS: I am sick having a retarded runt punk as pres

You, me, and most of the rest of the WORLD. He's been nothin' but a JOKE. Just be sure you & friends VOTE HIM OUT in '04!

 

[BOBDN]

Originally posted by: HappyGamer2
But bush is supposed to be the boss, well he isn't.
it's his fault no matter what, take the heat and blame or step down.

PS: I am sick having a retarded runt punk as pres

I second that. An excellent description of the Supreme Court selection.

The truth is Bush is the leader of the current administration, and as the sign on President Truman's desk read, "The buck stops here."

Bush opens his mouth on matters of national security he'd better be damned sure of what he's saying. He wasn't and he is ultimately responsible.

It's going to be very interesting watching the entire Bush administration tripping all over themselves blaming each other until they drop off one by one and Bush is left defenseless.

This time around we'll see what a REAL impeachment is like.

 

[lozina]

In any job you take in real life where you manage other people, you take responsibility for them. OTherwise this world would be a chaotic place. If Bush refuses to take responsibility for this matter, he is not fit to be President.

 

[AvesPKS]

Originally posted by: lozina
In any job you take in real life where you manage other people, you take responsibility for them. OTherwise this world would be a chaotic place. If Bush refuses to take responsibility for this matter, he is not fit to be President.

Uhhh...Reagan was a master of "I didn't know what he was doing...fire him!", and he seemed to do just fine...

 

[CaptnKirk]

The work history of Bush always has been to let others take the fall to cover for his failures.
His business history is one failure after another, with either daddy covering for him, of the
wealthy friends of the oil industry stepping in to but him out for a proffit to him and letting
him persue another operation to drive into the ground.

Lesson here is that GOVERNMENT is NOT a Business, and should not be run as such.

All we are going to see for a while is posturing to try to keep Bush himself from being the
focal point, and there will be spin - spin - spin to lay the blame elsewhere to save his ass.
Lots of time spent yesterday trying to shift blame to Tony Blair as the source of false data,
and now there floating a contingency plan to nail the CIA as the designated goat.

I was so dissapointed to hear Colin Powell taake up the same cover for the boss route,
I kind of hopped that he would stand up and say enough is enough - I'm outta here.
I thought (Hoped) that he was more of a free thinker than just another tool.

 

[BOBDN]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
The work history of Bush always has been to let others take the fall to cover for his failures.
His business history is one failure after another, with either daddy covering for him, of the
wealthy friends of the oil industry stepping in to but him out for a proffit to him and letting
him persue another operation to drive into the ground.

Lesson here is that GOVERNMENT is NOT a Business, and should not be run as such.

All we are going to see for a while is posturing to try to keep Bush himself from being the
focal point, and there will be spin - spin - spin to lay the blame elsewhere to save his ass.
Lots of time spent yesterday trying to shift blame to Tony Blair as the source of false data,
and now there floating a contingency plan to nail the CIA as the designated goat.

I was so dissapointed to hear Colin Powell taake up the same cover for the boss route,
I kind of hopped that he would stand up and say enough is enough - I'm outta here.
I thought (Hopped) that he was more of a free thinker than just another tool.

Bush's business failures are a matter of public record. He is a disgrace to the White House.

Bush's a$$ can't be covered forever. We aren't talking about just another failed oil company here.

Tony Blair is in deep doo doo over his lust for war and Bush. Now Bush and Co. will abandon him and try using him as a scapegoat. So much for loyalty and friendship.

As for Colin Powell, he doesn't want to end up in an untimely accident somewhere so he wont resign and he will keep spouting any BS they tell him to. Losing all credibility in the process.

 

[freegeeks]

The sad thing is that a lot of americans doesn't seem to care that they have been lied to. Just read some posts from some members on this forum and you will see that they keep defending an administration that lied to the world.

 

[gordy]

same dubious info Bush got Sept. 10 '01, he chose not to make the same mistake twice, asshats

 

[freegeeks]

same dubious info Bush got Sept. 10 '01, he chose not to make the same mistake twice, asshats

200+ US and British soldiers and probably thousands Iraqis died because of this dubious info.

Who is the asshat

 

[CaptnKirk]

It's crystal clear that everyone in the world has lied about everything, except for Bush.
He is focused like a laser beam, and has everyone else on staff lying in his behalf.
He needs not lie, as he has a professional team to lie for him.

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: gordy
same dubious info Bush got Sept. 10 '01, he chose not to make the same mistake twice, asshats

Sheep sheep sheep sheep sheep.

 

[phillyTIM]

Supposely, George Tenent never saw the final draft of the speech. So that's a hole in her story that she hasn't explained. It seems to me though she is specifically trying to blame Tenent though. I guess he would be expenable since Clinton appointed him any way. One thing this ain't going to go away now.

 

[chowderhead]

What happened to the Republican mantra of taking personal responsibility? Who cares who approved what when. It is ultimately GWB's responsibility to fully understand what he is saying and to the best of his ability to fully vet/trust what he is saying IS the truth. Is he a mouthpiece or does he say what he means and mean what he says.
I thought one of the selling points to GWB's candidacy for president was, though he was a bit inexperienced, he was going to surround himself with experienced people who would do a good job advising him. Now we have Rice, et. al passing the blame elsewhere.
The buck stops where?

Enjoy your African Safari, GWB. Seems like you are always either golfing, fundraising, or on a working?/vacation.

 

[CaptnKirk]

The Republican Matra of Personal Responsibility is hard at work -
trying thier best to pin this mess they made on Clinton and his appointees.

It's Clintons fault for not taking Saddam and Iraq down when he was in office,
and since he was entangled in the Republican personal attacks back then he
never shousld have appointed anyone to that office anyway.

The Republicans spent 8 years attacking Clintons character so they could run
and ignoramus like Bush against Gore, and have their idiotic Right Extremists
rally behind Bush the original Rally Monkey.
They didn't allow laws to be made that would benifit the public, they held everything back
so they could pass weaker versions to claim glory and self-righteousness.

 

[Moonbeam]

Was it Czar in another thread who wanted to know who forged the papers that the EU intelligency agencies got? I want to know if they came off a PNAC press. We need to find the forger next. We forge um, you find um and we quote um wiould be really cool. I can see people of character thinking of that.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
Supposely, George Tenent never saw the final draft of the speech. So that's a hole in her story that she hasn't explained. It seems to me though she is specifically trying to blame Tenent though. I guess he would be expenable since Clinton appointed him any way. One thing this ain't going to go away now.

Just wanted to iterate that although this wasn't in the article CBS posted yeasterday about this, it was infact reported in the nightly news segment.

 

[sMiLeYz]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
The Republican Matra of Personal Responsibility is hard at work -
trying thier best to pin this mess they made on Clinton and his appointees.

It's Clintons fault for not taking Saddam and Iraq down when he was in office,
and since he was entangled in the Republican personal attacks back then he
never shousld have appointed anyone to that office anyway.

The Republicans spent 8 years attacking Clintons character so they could run
and ignoramus like Bush against Gore, and have their idiotic Right Extremists
rally behind Bush the original Rally Monkey.
They didn't allow laws to be made that would benifit the public, they held everything back
so they could pass weaker versions to claim glory and self-righteousness.

I disagree I really think there are honorable Republicans in congress like McCain and... a few others. It's just that their voices of moderation are drowned out by the voices of the neocons, the hardline christians, and the Im-for-sale Republicans.

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm reserving the word 'honorable' for the elected official that isn't rich and takes no campaign contributions and talks only and often about returning the government to the people.