I agree. They really need a compelling story (something Oblivion lacked)
If they have a compelling story + a dynamic and interesting world, I'll be interested in it potentially
I agree. They really need a compelling story (something Oblivion lacked)
If they have a compelling story + a dynamic and interesting world, I'll be interested in it potentially
PhatoseAlpha
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I'm honestly curious as to why anyone would be hyped for the release of FO3. It's a Bethesda game. History shows clearly that Bethesda games always require at least a few months for the fans to fix the horrific design mistakes Bethesda makes.
Another "Oblivion" type of RPG, one in where it's "Dumbed Down" for the masses.
Bethesda is out of touch with the RPG crowd and until they fire some asses and get people back in there that actually know what RPG stands for they will continue to fail at every "Dumbed Down" RPG they make
Bethesda is out of touch with the RPG crowd and until they fire some asses and get people back in there that actually know what RPG stands for they will continue to fail at every "Dumbed Down" RPG they make
Problem is, they don't lose money doing this at all. They have targetted short attention span gamers who will be on to another game after 2 or 3 months of play anyway. As such, they deliver just enough game for that time frame. They make it look pretty/cool, and it gets eaten up.
It's like bad mass market fiction, or so so popcorn.
StinkyPinky
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Or it may be due to the fact that most of us have lives outside of gaming, and can't afford, nor want to, spend hours a day on a game for half a year. I'm sure my wife and son would love it if I just ignored them for months.
I agree completely. I don't have time for something like WoW anymore. With a career, wife, house to maintain, and a baby on the way I am simply becoming a more casual gamer.
I think they'd rather have you play (and buy) six games in a year than make one that holds your interest that long. At the prices they charge, I expect some depth in the design. IIRC Morrowind was still hitting the top 20 on the sales charts years after its release. Is Oblivion doing that?
No one I knew was playing Oblivion 3 months after it came out. If Fallout 3 turns out better than that, I will be impressed. Me, I am going to by it on the cheap, 'cause I don't expect much from it.
No one I knew was playing Oblivion 3 months after it came out. If Fallout 3 turns out better than that, I will be impressed. Me, I am going to by it on the cheap, 'cause I don't expect much from it.
Dumac
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Originally posted by: zinfamous
I wasn't playing Morrowind a couple weeks after I started...b/c it was too god damn much BS and I had a life (such as it is) to live.
I played Morrowind months after purchasing it. Once I finally stopped, I always sporadically play again for a month or two after downloading a bunch of mods.
Oblivion was shelved in little more than a week, however.
I hope Bethesda brings some depth with Fallout 3. If the game is overly shallow or engineered for consoles, I'll cry.
thraashman
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I was playing Oblivion well over a year after it came out. My only problem with it was the scaling. I didn't mind it to some degree, but I thought it kinda silly that random highwaymen were now super ass powerful. I did manage to become psychotically powerful and virtually unkillable even in Oblivion, but the scaling in Morrowind was different enough that I preferred being a virtual god by the end of the game in that.
got to play it at PAX. I've got to say, I was very pleased with the implementation of VATS. The transition to and from vats is very fluid, and easy to manage. It seems like it would be very difficult to 'run n gun' the whole game, at least with a console controller. VATS will be probably be relied on for the harder, more strategic battles, and the FPS style will allow you to avoid long boring encounters with low level enemies (rad scorpions anyone?), or can be used as a fall back for when you've run out of AP and just need to finish off an enemy.
I obviously did not get to play long enough to speak on the depth of the game, but in a very short time i was able to swindle a woman out of some caps for a job I never intended to do, and also inadvertently decapitated some escaping slaves.
It seems very close to oblivion in that there will be many many quests and side stories to explore. However, the combat does seem much more fun than oblivion ever could be. There were points at which NPC's were engaged in fighting, however it wasn't clear whether or not this was scripted.
I don't believe there will be scaling in this game, or if there is, it won't be nearly as ridiculous as oblivion.
If you hated oblivion you probably won't dig Fallout 3 all that much.
However, if the idea of a tweaked (the characters are no longer completely homely) and more polished 'oblivion with guns' appeals to you, then you'll probably enjoy it.
For me, this is a title I will definitely be purchasing at launch.
I obviously did not get to play long enough to speak on the depth of the game, but in a very short time i was able to swindle a woman out of some caps for a job I never intended to do, and also inadvertently decapitated some escaping slaves.
It seems very close to oblivion in that there will be many many quests and side stories to explore. However, the combat does seem much more fun than oblivion ever could be. There were points at which NPC's were engaged in fighting, however it wasn't clear whether or not this was scripted.
I don't believe there will be scaling in this game, or if there is, it won't be nearly as ridiculous as oblivion.
If you hated oblivion you probably won't dig Fallout 3 all that much.
However, if the idea of a tweaked (the characters are no longer completely homely) and more polished 'oblivion with guns' appeals to you, then you'll probably enjoy it.
For me, this is a title I will definitely be purchasing at launch.
jonks
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I played Oblivion for 100 hours, not sure that qualifies as short attention span.
They did sell millions of copies across all the platforms, and the overwhelming majority of consumers loved it based on player reviews.
The critics fawned over it and called it game of the year/rpg of the year.
Bethesda now has tons of gamers awaiting F3 which will likely also sell millions and garner awards.
Yet some small (possibly tiny) set of hardcore gamers are unhappy.
What do you think Bethesda's goals are? I'd assume it's to make a game that 1) sells well, and 2) pleases the vast majority of people who purchase it.
Taking all that into context I think considering Bethesda a failure is itself a fail.
I don't think I will enjoy this game very much. It looks like rebadged oblivion from the 5 or so videos I just watched. Also, It appears to rip off from BioShock quite a bit with the cartoons and 50/60's type TVs and furnature. Furthermore, it looks really washed out and bland.
Now, I am not saying this game isn't going to be good. I am simply saying, from the videos I have seen, it doesn't look like I will personally enjoy this game. I have had enough of silly type weapons from the FF8+ Days... A gun blade? A machine gun attached to an arm? A huge peice of metal dubbing as a boxing glove? Naw, that isn't really for me. Stick to real and believable weapons is what I would prefer to see.
Now, I am not saying this game isn't going to be good. I am simply saying, from the videos I have seen, it doesn't look like I will personally enjoy this game. I have had enough of silly type weapons from the FF8+ Days... A gun blade? A machine gun attached to an arm? A huge peice of metal dubbing as a boxing glove? Naw, that isn't really for me. Stick to real and believable weapons is what I would prefer to see.
i'd say that bioshock's post-apocalyptic feel was more derived from Fallout.
in any case, I won't be buying this game right away. I'll wait until the reviews are out and/or the price goes down
StageLeft
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Although I've not played games in a few years, I was a big fan of Fallout 1 and 2, they are absolutely superb (F2 was unusable until it was patched, but then was awesome). I am watching vids now of F3 and it looks like any other FPS. blah. They should have stayed third person and been 100% turn based in combat like the previous games. Also, walking around the wasteland in the manner it appears in these vids just looks kind of unappealing.
i will say the official trailer looks pretty cool
I suppose if I was into PC Gaming right now I would still be excited for this, but third person is still best.
i will say the official trailer looks pretty cool
I suppose if I was into PC Gaming right now I would still be excited for this, but third person is still best.
videogames101
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Thanks for the correction - I only played Fallout: Tactics, which I enjoyed. I didn't see any of that stuff in that game.
Not sure what you find tragically hilarious... Perhaps where I was misinformed on the bolded? If so, look past that part and then comment, because it appears as if you are trolling.
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