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imported_Lothar

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It will be helpful if everyone listed their states...

Maryland.
I'm Voting Martin O'Malley for governor...That is a fact.
The idiotic sitting governor has to go.

For Senate?
I'm torn between Ben Cardin and Michael Steele...
I'm trying to predict Steele on how he'll vote in the senate...Will he be a "Chuck Hagel, Lincoln Chaffee, Olympia Snowe, and Susan Collins" type of senator, or he'll be one of the majority who gives Bush a Carte blanche?

I'll make up my mind on election day.
 

Genx87

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Are you in the Sixth District? You're on your own on Michelle Bachmann, who seems about as blackhearted a Christian conservative as I've ever seen - she's like Minnesota's version of Katharine Harris. She really seems like a dangerous person to me. I am not especially enthusiastic about Patti Wetterling (though I've met her several times, and she seems like a nice person), who I don't consider a strong candidate, but Bachmann is pure evil. In my own (Fifth) district, Keith Ellison will win easily. I can't say I'm a fan, but I guess I'll probably vote for him.

Yes Bachman, a small govt minded republican. Those are the types I like.

Ellison sounds real shady but should win. Who is the indepdendence candidate in your district? She was on Jason Lewis yesterday and was talking about being a conservative then goign down the democratic talking points. She was so inept an indepdence party rep called in and he sounded even more foolish.

You think Norm Coleman is a "RINO" (I hate that term)? That's crazy. He's certainly a Bush lapdog and couldn't be chummier with AIPAC. He's pro-life and supports the Christian conservative line on gay rights. If anything I think he was always a "DINO" (again, a really stupid word IMO) earlier in his career.

Mark Kennedy, I like Norm Coleman, Kennedy comes off as a RINO. I got a letter from him in the mail where he goes down the list of social spending spree's he wants to implement while calling for smaller govt lol.

One thing is for sure: Amy Kloubuchar will spank Kennedy for the junior senator spot. That asshole's political career is finished. Pawlenty will also hammer Hatch. I don't love either of them, but Hatch is just a thoroughly disagreeable guy, and has no real chance IMO.

Yes, I am not a fan of Amy. But she will win because any self respecting republican or conservative wont vote for a RINO like Kennedy.

I also like Pawlenty, he managed to get the state back in a surplus after Ventura's disasterous reign.

he also seems to understand our idiotic road system in this city. For the love of god,~ 2million people traveling on 2 lane highways is pure idiocy! And dont give me any crap about light rail saving us.

 

piasabird

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Illinois.

GOP Versus the likes of Al Gore. Boy that is one hard decision.

I dont care much for the Gulf War, but it may just be a necessary evil. Putting Korea incharge of the UN is one interesting move. But at least they are somewhat of a democracy. Not many Muslims in Korea.

I have not seen a Democrat with a platform worth voting for. The intrest rate on a house is really low, the stock market is at an all-time high, and I have a job. What exactly is a good reason to change all of this?

Not many Republicans ever elected in my district, but they did recently appoint a Republican Judge. We voted the rascal judges out of office last go round.

The judiciary in Madison County Illinois has been refusing to take outside Law Suits for 2 years and things are just starting to look good for this region. This is probably despite anything any local law-maker has done.
 
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Are you in the Sixth District? You're on your own on Michelle Bachmann, who seems about as blackhearted a Christian conservative as I've ever seen - she's like Minnesota's version of Katharine Harris. She really seems like a dangerous person to me. I am not especially enthusiastic about Patti Wetterling (though I've met her several times, and she seems like a nice person), who I don't consider a strong candidate, but Bachmann is pure evil. In my own (Fifth) district, Keith Ellison will win easily. I can't say I'm a fan, but I guess I'll probably vote for him.

Yes Bachman, a small govt minded republican. Those are the types I like.

Ellison sounds real shady but should win. Who is the indepdendence candidate in your district? She was on Jason Lewis yesterday and was talking about being a conservative then goign down the democratic talking points. She was so inept an indepdence party rep called in and he sounded even more foolish.

You think Norm Coleman is a "RINO" (I hate that term)? That's crazy. He's certainly a Bush lapdog and couldn't be chummier with AIPAC. He's pro-life and supports the Christian conservative line on gay rights. If anything I think he was always a "DINO" (again, a really stupid word IMO) earlier in his career.

Mark Kennedy, I like Norm Coleman, Kennedy comes off as a RINO. I got a letter from him in the mail where he goes down the list of social spending spree's he wants to implement while calling for smaller govt lol.

One thing is for sure: Amy Kloubuchar will spank Kennedy for the junior senator spot. That asshole's political career is finished. Pawlenty will also hammer Hatch. I don't love either of them, but Hatch is just a thoroughly disagreeable guy, and has no real chance IMO.

Yes, I am not a fan of Amy. But she will win because any self respecting republican or conservative wont vote for a RINO like Kennedy.

I also like Pawlenty, he managed to get the state back in a surplus after Ventura's disasterous reign.

he also seems to understand our idiotic road system in this city. For the love of god,~ 2million people traveling on 2 lane highways is pure idiocy! And dont give me any crap about light rail saving us.

Michelle Bachmann is hardly for "small government" when it comes to social issues. She is a zealous Christian conservative and couldn't give a damn about the rights of individuals. She is, IMO, a very dangerous person, and I'd like it very much if Patti Wetterling knocked her out.

Tammy Lee is the Independent in my district. She does seem a little insubstantial. As I said, I'm a little wary of Ellison, but my mother, who works closely with the state legislature (she is the Executive Director of the Minnesota Criminal Sentencing Guidelines Commission), speaks very highly of him.

I don't know that I'd call Kennedy a "RINO" either - he is firmly in the hip pocket of big business and is a fervent supporter of AIPAC and the war in Iraq. I am not a huge Kloubuchar fan, but she'll do - God knows I like her more than Kennedy.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Genx87
Are you in the Sixth District? You're on your own on Michelle Bachmann, who seems about as blackhearted a Christian conservative as I've ever seen - she's like Minnesota's version of Katharine Harris. She really seems like a dangerous person to me. I am not especially enthusiastic about Patti Wetterling (though I've met her several times, and she seems like a nice person), who I don't consider a strong candidate, but Bachmann is pure evil. In my own (Fifth) district, Keith Ellison will win easily. I can't say I'm a fan, but I guess I'll probably vote for him.

Yes Bachman, a small govt minded republican. Those are the types I like.

Ellison sounds real shady but should win. Who is the indepdendence candidate in your district? She was on Jason Lewis yesterday and was talking about being a conservative then goign down the democratic talking points. She was so inept an indepdence party rep called in and he sounded even more foolish.

You think Norm Coleman is a "RINO" (I hate that term)? That's crazy. He's certainly a Bush lapdog and couldn't be chummier with AIPAC. He's pro-life and supports the Christian conservative line on gay rights. If anything I think he was always a "DINO" (again, a really stupid word IMO) earlier in his career.

Mark Kennedy, I like Norm Coleman, Kennedy comes off as a RINO. I got a letter from him in the mail where he goes down the list of social spending spree's he wants to implement while calling for smaller govt lol.

One thing is for sure: Amy Kloubuchar will spank Kennedy for the junior senator spot. That asshole's political career is finished. Pawlenty will also hammer Hatch. I don't love either of them, but Hatch is just a thoroughly disagreeable guy, and has no real chance IMO.

Yes, I am not a fan of Amy. But she will win because any self respecting republican or conservative wont vote for a RINO like Kennedy.

I also like Pawlenty, he managed to get the state back in a surplus after Ventura's disasterous reign.

he also seems to understand our idiotic road system in this city. For the love of god,~ 2million people traveling on 2 lane highways is pure idiocy! And dont give me any crap about light rail saving us.

Michelle Bachmann is hardly for "small government" when it comes to social issues. She is a zealous Christian conservative and couldn't give a damn about the rights of individuals. She is, IMO, a very dangerous person, and I'd like it very much if Patti Wetterling knocked her out.

Tammy Lee is the Independent in my district. She does seem a little insubstantial. As I said, I'm a little wary of Ellison, but my mother, who works closely with the state legislature (she is the Executive Director of the Minnesota Criminal Sentencing Guidelines Commission), speaks very highly of him.

I don't know that I'd call Kennedy a "RINO" either - he is firmly in the hip pocket of big business and is a fervent supporter of AIPAC and the war in Iraq. I am not a huge Kloubuchar fan, but she'll do - God knows I like her more than Kennedy.



Right here we have an example of the most dangerous thing to the GOP's agenda . . .

an educated and well informed voter who studies the issues and votes accordingly.

 

Lemon law

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Yes the economy is somewhat booming----but its all powered by huge debts.

any of you can do the same---assuming someone trusts you with credit.

Just slowly max all your credit cards out---spend spend spend---shop till you drop---buy what ever you want---but make the minimum payment on your credit cards---and make the minimum payments by borrowing more money.

One fine day your credit cards will be all maxed out---and you wont be trusted to get any more credit----and suddenly the merry go round stops---as GHB found out after Reagan.

As GWB or his sucessor will also find out.

Three trillion added to the national debt during the GWB watch---------are we nuts to allow it?------evidently--because --like GWB---the American voter can't see bad policy will come back to bite us----or that poorly planned invasions will blow up in our face---or that confronting terrorism in the wrong way will spread and increase terrorism---the evidence is all around us------clear as day---and MOST PEOPLE CAN"T SEE IT--------whats that new Woodword book--------State of Denial---aptly titled.

And no argument that the repubs got a lot of things done in the past 6 years---------almost none of of it any good is the problem---and a great deal of that is also very bad social policies that are and will continue to come back and bite us.
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Yes, I am not a fan of Amy. But she will win because any self respecting republican or conservative wont vote for a RINO like Kennedy.

So does that mean you'll be voting for Amy Kloubuchar or you won't vote at all in your senate election? ;)
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: Genx87
Yes, I am not a fan of Amy. But she will win because any self respecting republican or conservative wont vote for a RINO like Kennedy.

So does that mean you'll be voting for Amy Kloubuchar or you won't vote at all in your senate election? ;)

Most likely will vote myself in hehe

Been awhile, pretty sure you can write in for Senators as well.
 

shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: piasabird
Illinois.

GOP Versus the likes of Al Gore. Boy that is one hard decision.

I dont care much for the Gulf War, but it may just be a necessary evil. Putting Korea incharge of the UN is one interesting move. But at least they are somewhat of a democracy. Not many Muslims in Korea.

I have not seen a Democrat with a platform worth voting for. The intrest rate on a house is really low, the stock market is at an all-time high, and I have a job. What exactly is a good reason to change all of this?

Not many Republicans ever elected in my district, but they did recently appoint a Republican Judge. We voted the rascal judges out of office last go round.

The judiciary in Madison County Illinois has been refusing to take outside Law Suits for 2 years and things are just starting to look good for this region. This is probably despite anything any local law-maker has done.



"The intrest rate on a house is really low, the stock market is at an all-time high, and I have a job. What exactly is a good reason to change all of this?"

Translation: mememe... don't care about anything except what immediately effects me!

300 billion in added deficit won't hurt any of us or our children right?
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: piasabird
Illinois.

GOP Versus the likes of Al Gore. Boy that is one hard decision.

I dont care much for the Gulf War, but it may just be a necessary evil. Putting Korea incharge of the UN is one interesting move. But at least they are somewhat of a democracy. Not many Muslims in Korea.

I have not seen a Democrat with a platform worth voting for. The intrest rate on a house is really low, the stock market is at an all-time high, and I have a job. What exactly is a good reason to change all of this?

Not many Republicans ever elected in my district, but they did recently appoint a Republican Judge. We voted the rascal judges out of office last go round.

The judiciary in Madison County Illinois has been refusing to take outside Law Suits for 2 years and things are just starting to look good for this region. This is probably despite anything any local law-maker has done.



"The intrest rate on a house is really low, the stock market is at an all-time high, and I have a job. What exactly is a good reason to change all of this?"

Translation: mememe... don't care about anything except what immediately effects me!

300 billion in added deficit won't hurt any of us or our children right?


Did the billions our parents ran up hurt us? We have been running deficits for decades, each decade passes, our standard of living improves, and our economy grows.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: loki8481
losing congress would probably be the best thing that could possibly happen for the republican party.
As far as 2008, yes for sure.

The Dems may spend two years going after Bush and most Americans will not like that, look what happened to the GOP is 1998, they were out of power and LOST seats, that almost never happens.
 

senseamp

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: loki8481
losing congress would probably be the best thing that could possibly happen for the republican party.
As far as 2008, yes for sure.

The Dems may spend two years going after Bush and most Americans will not like that, look what happened to the GOP is 1998, they were out of power and LOST seats, that almost never happens.

Well, GOP went against Clinton, who had around 70% approval at the time.
Bush's approval is around 40%, he'll make a nice pinata for the next Congress.
 

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I think it was around 2003, my dad and I were talking politics, and he said, "I'm not a great predictor of politics, but I do know this: pride cometh before a fall. And Bush is letting his pride get the best of him."

I have a feeling Bush's fall from grace is coming, and it's coming soon, hopefully in the form of bitch-slapping midterms.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: extra
While I hate bush, and don't like either party, lets be fair here. We should blame bush for:

1. Our economy
2. Millions in prison because of an illegal drug war
3. Total fiasco in Iraq/Afghanistan
4. Terrible world image of the U.S. (this one is huge)
1. The stock market hit a record high 4 days in a row. That is after the housing slow down, after nearly $3 a gallon gas, after Katrina caused half of one of major cities to relocate and RIGHT after NK sets off a Nuke!!!

How can you say the economy sucks? Growth is great, unemployment is near what they call "full employment" every thing looks really good. If this was a Democrat economy we would be hearing about how it?s the greatest economy in 20 years.

BTW: all the negatives you are going to throw up have been going on for long since Bush took over. (rich getting richer etc etc)

2. Bush is doing the same thing every President has done on drugs, why is this even in your list?

4. Our "world" image has been the same for a long time. A lot of people don't like us and bitch about us behind our backs, but the second there is trouble they come running for our help. Europe has an inferiority complex and wants to be treated like an equal on the world stage, while spending no where near what we spend in order to keep our position of world power, and China/ Russia are just following the same policies they've had for 20+ years.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: loki8481
losing congress would probably be the best thing that could possibly happen for the republican party.
As far as 2008, yes for sure.

The Dems may spend two years going after Bush and most Americans will not like that, look what happened to the GOP is 1998, they were out of power and LOST seats, that almost never happens.

Well, GOP went against Clinton, who had around 70% approval at the time.
Bush's approval is around 40%, he'll make a nice pinata for the next Congress.
Clinton's approval went UP during the Moncia thing. The President gets caught with an intern half his age, lies about under oath, then lies about it to the American people and when all this comes out his rating goes up.

That was because when the Republicans started trying to kick him out the American people had to decide if they really liked Clinton that much or if they wanted him to go as well. As they decided that he should not go their opinion of him went up. After the Monica thing was over his approval went back down.
Check the graph here Clinton approval
I just googled "clinton approval ratings graph" and found this page, since it works I posted it. Not the best page to use, but it works :)

What this means is that if the Democrats start talking impeachment they better have some damn good evidence, or else the American people will see it as just a political hit job and Bush's numbers will go up.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Clinton's approval went UP during the Moncia thing. The President gets caught with an intern half his age, lies about under oath, then lies about it to the American people and when all this comes out his rating goes up.

That's because his liberal media were successful in convincing the sheep that it was "just sex" and burying the real crimes. And, sadly, many of these sheep are still singing the same tune.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: extra
While I hate bush, and don't like either party, lets be fair here. We should blame bush for:

1. Our economy

Are you living under a rock? OUr economy is booming. Of course, no bush hater wants to admit that he is doing something right.


Booming? I work for the stock market, and .... it is as far from booming as can be.. numbers don't always equate with reality...

Talk to some REAL people, will ya... My father, a republican, and my boss, can see that.. why can't you? You seem unwilling to look outside a narrow view of what you want to believe so much that you make it so in your mind.

You say that as bad as the republicans are, the democrats must be worse.. this is brainwashed narrow minded nonsense... sorry, but if you support corruption, $300 billion in debt, and nothing accomplished, vote for gop..

What has been accomplished? Immigration reform? Nope... SS reform? Nope. Safer country? Nope. Ethics reform? Nope. What has been accomplished!?

Based on your post record here, there is nothing you will admit that the bush administration has done that is good for the country. And therefore, you, my friend, are the one with the narrow mind.
 
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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Whos gonna vote GOP in four weeks?



Stupid people - really, really stupid people.
It must be that condecending, elitist attitude that keeps winning elections for you guys. :disgust:

The funniest part about the upcoming elections... The part that amuses me the most... if the Dems win it will have taken a total failure (implosion?) of the Republicans on every level. A failed policy in Iraq. North Korea with Nukes. Iran about to get nukes. Tapped phones. Torture in 'Gitmo. Renditions. Gay sex with interns. Squandering of whatever good will we had in the world. Ballooning national debt. Etc... Etc...

And if they can't win after all of that... If they don't have a message that drives people to vote for them AFTER ALL OF THAT... It speaks volumes about what a failed party the Ds really are. The mere fact that the congress is still in play is almost unfathomable to me. By all rights the Rs should get absolutely smashed in November. And the best the Ds are going to do (or even hope for) is barely take control.

And you call the Republicans stupid. Heh.
 

shurato

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Originally posted by: Lothar
It will be helpful if everyone listed their states...

Maryland.
I'm Voting Martin O'Malley for governor...That is a fact.
The idiotic sitting governor has to go.

For Senate?
I'm torn between Ben Cardin and Michael Steele...
I'm trying to predict Steele on how he'll vote in the senate...Will he be a "Chuck Hagel, Lincoln Chaffee, Olympia Snowe, and Susan Collins" type of senator, or he'll be one of the majority who gives Bush a Carte blanche?

I'll make up my mind on election day.


Gov Erlich is a pathetic travesty. Michael Steele? Your actually considering this tool. Well hope you make a good decision come election time.

edit:
Do you see O'Malley making any real difference if were to be elected Gov. though? Lesser of 2 evils by far as Erlich is a putz but still... I'm not holding my breath.
 
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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Whos gonna vote GOP in four weeks?



Stupid people - really, really stupid people.
It must be that condecending, elitist attitude that keeps winning elections for you guys. :disgust:

The funniest part about the upcoming elections... The part that amuses me the most... if the Dems win it will have taken a total failure (implosion?) of the Republicans on every level. A failed policy in Iraq. North Korea with Nukes. Iran about to get nukes. Tapped phones. Torture in 'Gitmo. Renditions. Gay sex with interns. Squandering of whatever good will we had in the world. Ballooning national debt. Etc... Etc...

And if they can't win after all of that... If they don't have a message that drives people to vote for them AFTER ALL OF THAT... It speaks volumes about what a failed party the Ds really are. The mere fact that the congress is still in play is almost unfathomable to me. By all rights the Rs should get absolutely smashed in November. And the best the Ds are going to do (or even hope for) is barely take control.

And you call the Republicans stupid. Heh.

That's a remarkably glib, self-serving perspective IMO.

As I've said earlier in this thread, each race has to be viewed separately. I don't see that a Republican victory in a particular race constitutes a failure for the Democrats globally, or vice versa. The reality is that, as a general rule, incumbent congressmen are almost always re-elected. If that holds true to form, it won't, IMO, be a matter of a global lack of vision by the Democratic party (though I agree the party lacks vision, just as the Republican party does).

What I will agree with, however, is that your own party has failed so many times, on so many levels, in recent years that it's a wonder that it still enjoys such widespread support.
 

shurato

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Clinton's approval went UP during the Moncia thing. The President gets caught with an intern half his age, lies about under oath, then lies about it to the American people and when all this comes out his rating goes up.

That's because his liberal media were successful in convincing the sheep that it was "just sex" and burying the real crimes. And, sadly, many of these sheep are still singing the same tune.

Ok Pal, us liberals will give that one to you if you admit your commander in chief lied to us about Iraq and lead us to a war where there have been one too many casualties. I'll take lying over a BJ and trying to cover it up over basically what amounts to mass murder by incompetance by your president... Cya Sheep.
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: shurato
Originally posted by: Lothar
It will be helpful if everyone listed their states...

Maryland.
I'm Voting Martin O'Malley for governor...That is a fact.
The idiotic sitting governor has to go.

For Senate?
I'm torn between Ben Cardin and Michael Steele...
I'm trying to predict Steele on how he'll vote in the senate...Will he be a "Chuck Hagel, Lincoln Chaffee, Olympia Snowe, and Susan Collins" type of senator, or he'll be one of the majority who gives Bush a Carte blanche?

I'll make up my mind on election day.


Gov Erlich is a pathetic travesty. Michael Steele? Your actually considering this tool. Well hope you make a good decision come election time.

I'm not a big fan of Ben Cardin.
Michael Steele saying stem-cell research is unethical or comparable to Nazi experimentation is a turn off for me.

I may just end up writing my name on the ballot or Paul Sarbanes.
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: shurato
Do you see O'Malley making any real difference if were to be elected Gov. though? Lesser of 2 evils by far as Erlich is a putz but still... I'm not holding my breath.

He's made a difference since he became mayor of Baltimore.
 
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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Whos gonna vote GOP in four weeks?



Stupid people - really, really stupid people.
It must be that condecending, elitist attitude that keeps winning elections for you guys. :disgust:

The funniest part about the upcoming elections... The part that amuses me the most... if the Dems win it will have taken a total failure (implosion?) of the Republicans on every level. A failed policy in Iraq. North Korea with Nukes. Iran about to get nukes. Tapped phones. Torture in 'Gitmo. Renditions. Gay sex with interns. Squandering of whatever good will we had in the world. Ballooning national debt. Etc... Etc...

And if they can't win after all of that... If they don't have a message that drives people to vote for them AFTER ALL OF THAT... It speaks volumes about what a failed party the Ds really are. The mere fact that the congress is still in play is almost unfathomable to me. By all rights the Rs should get absolutely smashed in November. And the best the Ds are going to do (or even hope for) is barely take control.

And you call the Republicans stupid. Heh.

That's a remarkably glib, self-serving perspective IMO.

As I've said earlier in this thread, each race has to be viewed separately. I don't see that a Republican victory in a particular race constitutes a failure for the Democrats globally, or vice versa. The reality is that, as a general rule, incumbent congressmen are almost always re-elected. If that holds true to form, it won't, IMO, be a matter of a global lack of vision by the Democratic party (though I agree the party lacks vision, just as the Republican party does).

What I will agree with, however, is that your own party has failed so many times, on so many levels, in recent years that it's a wonder that it still enjoys such widespread support.

I don't buy that at all. It's not self serving, it's the truth.

History proves that if the minority party presents a unifying message against a (perceived) corrupt/misguided administration/party they can create a wave of change.

The Dems are in a very similar situation right now to where the Rs were in '94. (Actually they are in a much better situation all things considered) There was a single party rule. The administration was portrayed as being caught in scandal after scandal and enacting policy that was counter to the principles of the average american. And that situation was nothing compared to present circumstances.

The Rs got together and presented a simple plan: "Forget who your congressperson is now. If you elect the R candidate and the Rs take the majority we will push these items (Contract for America) through to the President's desk." It worked. They created a message that agreed with the principles of the average american, nationalized what had previously been local elections and they cleaned house.

The fact that the Ds, with a LOT more ammo to go after the Rs now than the Rs had in '94, can't pull together a landslide of change is laughable and at the same time, sad... Because as pathetic as the Rs agenda (or lack thereof) is, the Ds don't even have one.

Sadder still is how far the Rs have drifted from that original '94 message.


 

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I seem to remember Pelosi promising certain things if the Democrats take the Majority...like a raise in minimum wage, some sort of ACTUAL plan for Iraq, revamped medicare bill...all in 100 hours.

It's just that this stuff doesn't get reported, because the Republican scandals are taking center stage. Which, really, is more helpful than anything the Democrats could come up with. But really, the tired nation of 40 years of Democratic control of the House and Senate were what really catapulted the Republican victory. It's only taken 10 years for the Republicans to be in a WORSE place than the Democrats were 12 years ago.

Seriously. That's pretty f'ing big testament to the effectiveness of that mythical "Contract to America". I doubt Americans would fall for that shtick again, which is why, probably, no one is really saying anything and just letting the corrupt, awful, awful, awful Republican party finally implode by itself.