who's going to take over manufacturing once wages in china rise?

[BlahBlahYouToo]

it's a cycle isn't it?
we had our heyday in the early 1900's, now it's china. who's next?

 

[LegendKiller]

it's a cycle isn't it?
we had our heyday in the early 1900's, now it's china. who's next?

The only reason why it is china is currency, we never had a currency advantage. It will go to another country that does, until they lose it also.

 

[a777pilot]

Germany.

 

[wuliheron]

There is no next. In fifty years the ecology will collapse and civilization will either reboot or die.

By most accounts we are already in the midst of the single largest extinction event in the history of the planet. Within twenty years there won't be enough fish to sustain commercial fishing and already fish farms are taking over the business. Within fifty years its projected most land wild land animals larger then a dog will be extinct. No more elephants, lions, tigers, and bears (oh my!) except in zoos which are going crazy collecting as many as possible right now. In fact, there are even concerted efforts to store embryos and plant seeds.

Then there's the water problem. Forget oil, within fifty years most of the world's largest aquifers will run dry. Already emergency food supplies are dropping thanks in part to people converting more food into fuel. People are already struggling to capture all the rainwater they can, but its not enough to make up for the lost aquifers. We can clean dirty water and use less, but all that costs money and half the world lives on $2.oo a day and it is these poor people who have the worst population problems.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

--snip--

Looks like someone hit the:

 

[a777pilot]

There is no next. In fifty years the ecology will collapse and civilization will either reboot or die.

By most accounts we are already in the midst of the single largest extinction event in the history of the planet. Within twenty years there won't be enough fish to sustain commercial fishing and already fish farms are taking over the business. Within fifty years its projected most land wild land animals larger then a dog will be extinct. No more elephants, lions, tigers, and bears (oh my!) except in zoos which are going crazy collecting as many as possible right now. In fact, there are even concerted efforts to store embryos and plant seeds.

Then there's the water problem. Forget oil, within fifty years most of the world's largest aquifers will run dry. Already emergency food supplies are dropping thanks in part to people converting more food into fuel. People are already struggling to capture all the rainwater they can, but its not enough to make up for the lost aquifers. We can clean dirty water and use less, but all that costs money and half the world lives on $2.oo a day and it is these poor people who have the worst population problems.

I can remember these very same predictions when I was in high school and that was over 50 years ago. We are better off now than then.

There is a sky and it is NOT falling.

 

[spidey07]

Communism doesn't work. Not gonna happen.

 

[UberNeuman]

it's a cycle isn't it?
we had our heyday in the early 1900's, now it's china. who's next?

Spin the wheel - comes down to what country is going be cheapest....

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Vietnam, India, Africa, Central Asia.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Plenty of third world countries to pick from that are already doing it. Thailand, India, Bangladesh, etc...

 

[LegendKiller]

Germany.

Wrong.

 

[DominionSeraph]

it's a cycle isn't it?

No. The standard paradigm throughout history has been an aristocracy getting rich off the poor worker. The worker actually having some riches for himself is new, and is due to the People asserting political power and limiting the wealthy's ability to fleece them. The aristocracy figured out a way around this with outsourcing.

If the Chinese don't revolt against indentured servitude they could be the manufacturing capital of the world for millennia.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Wrong.

Germany will always be manufacturing and exporting...but it will be the expensive stuff that people are willing to pay a premium for. Not a bad position to be in, eh?

 

[Anarchist420]

The only reason why it is china is currency, we never had a currency advantage. It will go to another country that does, until they lose it also.

I don't want my money devalued.

 

[wuliheron]

I can remember these very same predictions when I was in high school and that was over 50 years ago. We are better off now than then.

There is a sky and it is NOT falling.

We've been burning the candle at both ends for a long time now. That people saw it coming fifty years ago and didn't have the ability to accurately predict when or exactly how it would happen is not surprising. But if plugging your fingers in your ears and repeating "I can't hear you" makes you feel better, by all means, continue to do so.

Nor am I panicking. I won't be here to see it happen and my kids live in one of the best places in the world to survive such problems. I'm not saying it is the likely end of the world or any such nonsense, merely that the shit is about to hit the fan and there is no way to predict the results.

 

[Atreus21]

it's a cycle isn't it?
we had our heyday in the early 1900's, now it's china. who's next?

Vietnam and India.

 

[Macamus Prime]

By the time wages in China rise, the US will be a 3rd world country.

The Comtalist of China (a mutant child of communist and capitalist) will try to yeild maximum profits for their products (,.... which were once ours,...) and will seek to find the cheapest labor around; which will be the USA.

Fun fact; the richest city in America at this time will be Detroit. All these years of living through hell will teach them to rise far and above the troubled times of 3rd world America (aka; Obama's objective).

 

[manimal]

brazil

 

[artikk]

I think it could be Africa.

 

[wuliheron]

Nah, China was a one time deal.

The communists figured out if they grew food on every square foot of land they'd have enough left over for everyone to have one change of cloths a year. The totalitarian government had enormous untapped resources and a huge population willing to trust them to do whatever it took to get that extra change of cloths every year. It was a capitalist wet dream.

South America, Africa, Russia, just can't compare.

 

[cwjerome]

China still has close to a billion people living in sun-Saharan type poverty and is very regionalized. They will not run out of low pay jobs for some time.

 

[wuliheron]

China still has close to a billion people living in sun-Saharan type poverty and is very regionalized. They will not run out of low pay jobs for some time.

As long as they can keep the people alive. They have 22% of the world's population and only 7% of its fresh water. They've built the largest damn in the world and continue to work on water works, but already even major rivers are drying up in places. Yeah, we'll use them for as long as they last but exactly how long that might be debatable.