Who's at fault here? A or B?

simms

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Person A has an item they're selling, as is.
B buys it. There is no mention of the part being dead during the sale just that they haven't had time to test it.
B finds out person A had knowledge the part was dead BEFOREHAND but sold it "as is" to make a sale. Person A knew it would not work.
B wants a refund.

Who wins?
 

BigJ

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Technically, Party A is in the right. Morally, Party A is a complete fvcking douchebag and I'd like to know who it was.
 

Migroo

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Technically, Party A is in the right. Morally, Party A is a complete fvcking douchebag and I'd like to know who it was.

QTF.
 

purbeast0

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they are both correct, but in this case, the buyer should be refunded. while technically it was sold "as is" and was broken, nothing is wrong here. but then again, the seller KNEW it was broken and should have sold it as "not working" instead of "as is".

i will never buy anything sold "as is" for this very reason, and the reason the 3 people above quoted in a row.
 

43st

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To me as-is implies it was used, out of warranty, and my have some defects. Not 100% broken.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: tami
as is usually implies dead or partially broken. :p

To me, "as is" implies unknown/untested working state--unless otherwise specified (IE "works except for xxxx" or something).
 

Toasthead

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theres a big difference between havent had time to test it ...and I didnt test it because I knew it wouldnt work.
 

waggy

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what a rip off.

AS-IS does not mean it is broken. it just means you do not grantee that it will be working in a week.

IF IT IS BROKEN SAY IT IS BROKEN.

Who did the auction? that way we know not to deal with the scumbag.
 

iamwiz82

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I've sold stuff on ebay that I flagged as dead in the subject, description, and picture and still had people demand a refund
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: NuroMancer
qft = Quoted for truth
OR
Quick Fvcking Talking

In this case I think the above are #1

Dyslexic much?

I know what QFT stands for. But WTF is QTF?
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: NuroMancer
qft = Quoted for truth
OR
Quick Fvcking Talking

In this case I think the above are #1

Dyslexic much?

I know what QFT stands for. But WTF is QTF?

Someone else want to say it?
 

Kelemvor

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That's why it says AS IS. I would never buy an item listed as As Is without first emailing the user and asking if they know for a fact the item works or not.

Sorry but you're screwed.