Whole Foods Market Employee fired over $1.50

Feb 4, 2005
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I, Nicholas Edwards, had my employment at Whole Foods Market Berkeley wrongfully terminated at about 7:20 PM on Thursday, Dec 22, 2005:

3 days before Christmas, and
a week before ending my stay at the store to leave for school.

I don't feel like there was any conspiracy against me, but I am unhappy about the situation, and the policies in question.

WFM has a history of being unfair to its employees:
http://www.buyblue.org/node/2182/view/ratings/tid/141

I contend that I have been a dedicated, trustworthy employee of WFM Brk for 3 years, with NO prior history of theft or suspicion of theft.

Many if not all of my supervisors and co-workers, have or will vouch for my character. None have ever known me to be dishonest in anyway, or suspected me of any thievery, including the ones who enforced the policy in question.

I am not nor have I ever been dishonest, a thief, or a liar in any way, and I believe my employment record and my relationship with WFM should reflect that.

I am seeking apology, reinstatement, a clean employment record, and an open discussion about changing the unfair policies that result in these termination situations.
Research will show that there is precedent for unfair employment practices, including a reinstatement in my own career at WFM Brk, over a false performance consensus from peers and supervisors.

I recall the events leading to my termination as follows:

At 6:30 PM I bought about $8 worth of snacks at a cash register for my lunch break. On my way to the back of the store I took a bottled water off the shelf, intending to pay the $1.50 for it later. Around 7pm, a manager asked to talk to me outside the break room that I was sitting in. He told me that the Loss Prevention agent on duty let him know that I had taken a water without paying for it on my way to the back break room. Upon brief questioning, I admitted to taking it and drinking it without a receipt, apologized, stated that I had just bought several items, and said that I intended to pay for the water. He asked me if I knew that the store policy said that my act looked like stealing. I said yes, and asked if I should go pay for the water. He said no, and told me that he would go talk to someone about what he could do about the situation. I went upstairs, clocked back in around 7pm, and looked for Steve. He waived me over to his position down the upstairs hallway where he was sitting with another manager. He said he was sorry about the situation. I saw him filling out the termination paperwork, and it was understood that there was nothing he could do about the situation. I asked to see the store's general information guide, which did in fact state that 'unauthorized consumption' of goods before purchase would result in termination. No other specific statements about store policy were made to my recollection. I agreed to leave the store under suspicion of theft, and not return to work in the near future. The terminating manager stated that the form I signed was not for me, and that it was very basic, agreeing with my implication that it was not necessary for my records. His apologetic demeanor said to me that this was a routine action and that there was no action for me to take at that point in time. Upon further contact with management, I was given a copy of my termination notice and my final pay check.

Simply put I don't think it's fair for a trustworthy and conscientious 3 year team member to be fired on the spot for what I believe is a minor infraction, and most likely my only infraction at the store.

SUMMARILY:

Management cannot say that it was made profusely clear to me that my action was a major infraction that would result in the enforcement of a policy involving immediate termination. I therefore assume that if the topic of the store's position on pre-purchase consumption was ever reviewed, I was never informed about it in a manner that was proportional to the potential punishment.

I believe the loss prevention agent was overzealous in his tracking and reporting of my supposed theft, which may have resonated throughout the whole enforcement process.

It is discriminatory to single me out from the numerous employees who regularly consume things before purchase, sample items without permission, or take write offs without paying. As a cashier I have frequently had both employees and customers ask me to charge them for items they have consumed or the wrappers/containers of consumed items.

I made absolutely no indication that I intended to steal the item. I had full intent to pay for the item, and not ample time to do so.

I made no attempt to leave the store or conceal the item after taking it from the shelf. I made no attempt to conceal my actions of taking it off the shelf.





 

Specop 007

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Jan 31, 2005
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With all due respect..

Its a grocery store. I mean.....dude....its a GROCERY STORE.......
 

gopunk

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Jul 7, 2001
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i dunno, i think they were justified... just because you're an employee doesn't mean you can do that.
 

DaveSimmons

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Aug 12, 2001
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Sad to hear it, but you did probably sign a piece of paper saying you had read their "zero tolerance for theft" policy and agreed to it.

It's unfortunate, but Jake Mumble has probably been helping himself to a "free" bottle of water every day for months, and if caught would say exactly the same thing you did. You know that you haven't been stealing, the store manager only knows that one or more employees have been looting the store.

You made an honest but boneheaded mistake and got fired for it. Learn in your next job not to give yourself a short-term loan of your employer's goods.
 

Anubis

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Aug 31, 2001
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every place i have worked that has sold food and such, whichc is a lot never had an issue with emplyes taking stuff and eateing it and paying for it later, the grocery stores ive worked at didnt care at all, and to fire you for that IMO is overboard, would they fire you if your drawer was 1.50$ short? if not then theres something really fvcked up there
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Thieft is thieft. i would can your ass myself. $1 or $1000 does not matter.
 

shilala

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Oct 5, 2004
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Sorry dude, it's 100% your fault.
Rub dirt in it and take a lap.

Try not to make the same mistake later.
 
Dec 10, 2005
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Yeah... grocery store, nothing too special about that, but being fired over that one incident is kind of ridiculous: There is one kid at the ShopRite I work in who is always screwing up, but for some reason, they have yet to fire him (maybe union issues? lol).
 

Drakkon

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Aug 14, 2001
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sounds pretty messed up..but policy is you take it you buy it before eating/drinking it....so seems pretty stupid to risk something so petty....
 

olds

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Mar 3, 2000
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As per their policy, there were certainly justified.
I am surprised that they did though. There must be something else about your work history that you are not telling us.
 

juiio

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Feb 28, 2000
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Taking something and not paying for it, even if you intend to pay for it later, is a terrible idea. Even if your intentions are innocent, the appearance is not.
 

mb

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Jun 27, 2004
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Thats messed up. My roommate from last year worked at Food Lion.. he did stuff like this all the time and they never had a problem.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: etherealgrifter
I, Nicholas Edwards, had my employment at Whole Foods Market Berkeley wrongfully terminated at about 7:20 PM on Thursday, Dec 22, 2005:

3 days before Christmas, and
a week before ending my stay at the store to leave for school.

I don't feel like there was any conspiracy against me, but I am unhappy about the situation, and the policies in question.

WFM has a history of being unfair to its employees:
http://www.buyblue.org/node/2182/view/ratings/tid/141

I contend that I have been a dedicated, trustworthy employee of WFM Brk for 3 years, with NO prior history of theft or suspicion of theft.

Many if not all of my supervisors and co-workers, have or will vouch for my character. None have ever known me to be dishonest in anyway, or suspected me of any thievery, including the ones who enforced the policy in question.

I am not nor have I ever been dishonest, a thief, or a liar in any way, and I believe my employment record and my relationship with WFM should reflect that.

I am seeking apology, reinstatement, a clean employment record, and an open discussion about changing the unfair policies that result in these termination situations.
Research will show that there is precedent for unfair employment practices, including a reinstatement in my own career at WFM Brk, over a false performance consensus from peers and supervisors.

I recall the events leading to my termination as follows:

At 6:30 PM I bought about $8 worth of snacks at a cash register for my lunch break. On my way to the back of the store I took a bottled water off the shelf, intending to pay the $1.50 for it later. Around 7pm, a manager asked to talk to me outside the break room that I was sitting in. He told me that the Loss Prevention agent on duty let him know that I had taken a water without paying for it on my way to the back break room. Upon brief questioning, I admitted to taking it and drinking it without a receipt, apologized, stated that I had just bought several items, and said that I intended to pay for the water. He asked me if I knew that the store policy said that my act looked like stealing. I said yes, and asked if I should go pay for the water. He said no, and told me that he would go talk to someone about what he could do about the situation. I went upstairs, clocked back in around 7pm, and looked for Steve. He waived me over to his position down the upstairs hallway where he was sitting with another manager. He said he was sorry about the situation. I saw him filling out the termination paperwork, and it was understood that there was nothing he could do about the situation. I asked to see the store's general information guide, which did in fact state that 'unauthorized consumption' of goods before purchase would result in termination. No other specific statements about store policy were made to my recollection. I agreed to leave the store under suspicion of theft, and not return to work in the near future. The terminating manager stated that the form I signed was not for me, and that it was very basic, agreeing with my implication that it was not necessary for my records. His apologetic demeanor said to me that this was a routine action and that there was no action for me to take at that point in time. Upon further contact with management, I was given a copy of my termination notice and my final pay check.

Simply put I don't think it's fair for a trustworthy and conscientious 3 year team member to be fired on the spot for what I believe is a minor infraction, and most likely my only infraction at the store.

SUMMARILY:

Management cannot say that it was made profusely clear to me that my action was a major infraction that would result in the enforcement of a policy involving immediate termination. I therefore assume that if the topic of the store's position on pre-purchase consumption was ever reviewed, I was never informed about it in a manner that was proportional to the potential punishment.

I believe the loss prevention agent was overzealous in his tracking and reporting of my supposed theft, which may have resonated throughout the whole enforcement process.

It is discriminatory to single me out from the numerous employees who regularly consume things before purchase, sample items without permission, or take write offs without paying. As a cashier I have frequently had both employees and customers ask me to charge them for items they have consumed or the wrappers/containers of consumed items.

I made absolutely no indication that I intended to steal the item. I had full intent to pay for the item, and not ample time to do so.

I made no attempt to leave the store or conceal the item after taking it from the shelf. I made no attempt to conceal my actions of taking it off the shelf.

i think the key words in this whole post are right there in bold.
 

KarenMarie

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Sep 20, 2003
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the store has a policy about their employees and unpaid for merchandise. whether it was your intention to pay for it or not, it is against company policy and a terminable offense. Unfortunatley, corporate rules do not allow their managers distinguish between a long term loyal employee and a new hire who steals. While I am sure that the store manager felt bad for having to let you go... the bottom line is that by the companies definintion... taking merchandise without paying for it is stealing and that is what they say you did.

i am sorry for you. it really sucks, but that is the way it goes.
 

Whisper

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Feb 25, 2000
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They're within their rights to terminate you for that one act. Some places wouldn't, some would; you happen to have worked at one that would.

Honestly, I'd almost side with the store in this situation. Regardless of how long someone had worked for me, if they just grabbed something and started drinking/eating it, I'd at least give them some kind of warning...it doesn't reflect highly on your character, whether or not you intended to pay for the item later.

Then again, termination is a bit harsh; I'd have rather gone with some kind of formal warning.
 

Kaervak

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Jul 18, 2001
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Just goes to show you, never mess with hippies and their money. ;)




That's a joke if you're too dense to figure it out.
 

tommywishbone

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May 11, 2005
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My ridiculous obvious joke post was actually deleted & someone said STFU? LOL. OK then... A little touchy & stressed-out during the Holidays are we? XOXO
 

mb

Lifer
Jun 27, 2004
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I don't see why the store manager couldn't have just said "don't let it happen again" and that be the end of it... I don't like zero tolerance policies.
 

vtqanh

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Jan 4, 2001
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learn your lesson and move on. If you think they're unreasonable, then it's probably a good idea not working for them anymore.
Good luck in future jobs
 

mwtgg

Lifer
Dec 6, 2001
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That's funny, we take food and stuff all the time. Sucks to work for that hippy-ass store.