Whoa. Someone needs to check the temps in Hell today.

Fausto

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What. The. Hell? :confused:
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Sudan won an uncontested election Tuesday to the United Nations main human rights watchdog, prompting the United States to walk out because of alleged ethnic cleansing in the country's Darfur region.

Sudan's envoy immediately shot back that the U.S. delegation was "shedding crocodile tears," and he accused the United States of turning a blind eye as Iraqi prisoners were mistreated and civilians were harmed in battle.
 

Czar

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they need an overhaul, like some sets of standards before entering any of the councils
 

Zephyr106

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Originally posted by: freegeeks
the UN is only as strong as its member states make it

What?!!!!111 I thought the UN was a global liberal conspiracy seeking to take over the world???

Zephyr
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: Zephyr106
Originally posted by: freegeeks
the UN is only as strong as its member states make it

What?!!!!111 I thought the UN was a global liberal conspiracy seeking to take over the world???

Zephyr

they also have an army in Mexico that is standing by to take over the USA
 

maddogchen

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So does this mean Sudan joins Syria on the Human Rights board? who else is on there? China?
 

tnitsuj

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Get rid of the veto power on the SC, and institute a standing peacekeeping force and you might see some changes.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Get rid of the veto power on the SC, and institute a standing peacekeeping force and you might see some changes.

that would be a start

but ultimately I think it needs to be changed to regional councils and each region selects one to reprisent them in the security council and vetos should only be applied on a case to case bases as in a country who reprisents one region should automaticly get a veto on issues that directly concern that region
 

jagec

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that's CRAZY.

I love how they refer to Iraq, too...a handful of our guys get out of hand and pee on someone, and suddenly it's just as bad as the millions of people being massacred and sold into slavery in Sudan :roll:
 

NumbersGuy

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Originally posted by: maddogchen
So does this mean Sudan joins Syria on the Human Rights board? who else is on there? China?

full list:
UN Human Rights Commmission

Some paragons of human rights in the group:
Burkina Faso
China
Congo
Cuba
Indonesia
Sierra Leone
Sudan
Uganda
Zimbabwe

:shocked::disgust::roll:
(At least Lybia, Syria and Vietnam are gone)
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: NumbersGuy
Originally posted by: maddogchen
So does this mean Sudan joins Syria on the Human Rights board? who else is on there? China?

full list:
UN Human Rights Commmission

Some paragons of human rights in the group:
Burkina Faso
China
Congo
Cuba
Indonesia
Sierra Leone
Sudan
Uganda
Zimbabwe

:shocked::disgust::roll:
(At least Lybia, Syria and Vietnam are gone)
CHINA!?!?!
The UN should just close down already.
 

Czar

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well there are 53 countries in the council which is ALOT in the light of there being around 190 countries in the UN, impossible to not get a few bad, realy realy bad apples in there im afraid
 

MovingTarget

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w....t.....f.... Thats who's on the human rights commission these days? Seems more like a list of the "who's who" of violators of human rights. That is insane. The members of the commission should serve as examples of respect of human rights, not like many on there.
 

conjur

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In Sudan, Militiamen on Horses Uproot a Million

NYALA, Sudan, May 2 ? Hawa Muhammad, 15, lost just about everything when the men on horseback came. They took her family's horses, donkeys and small herd of goats and sheep. They took her cooking pots and her clothing. They took her mother and her father, too.

"The men on horses killed my parents," she said, referring to the Janjaweed, loose bands of Arab fighters. "Then the planes came."

Now it is she to whom her six younger sisters turn when their bellies rumble. She recounted her tale as if in a trance.

Hawa left her village on the run and settled with thousands of others at the camp in Kalma, outside Nyala, part of a tide of a million people that the United Nations and others say has been displaced in this vast region of western Sudan. The government in Khartoum has closed the region to outsiders for much of the last year.

Hawa's account of how the attack unfolded is the same as those heard in camp after camp across Darfur, as well as the settlements across the border in the desert of eastern Chad, where the United Nations estimates another 100,000 villagers have streamed.

Many were driven away by the Janjaweed, a few thousand uniformed militia men who have worked with government soldiers and aerial bombardments to purge villages of their darker-skinned black African inhabitants.

The government denies any relationship to the Janjaweed, but ousted villagers say the links are strong, and their accounts are backed by numerous aid workers and outside experts.

Human rights groups and international officials charge that the Janjaweed have been used as a tool of the government to pursue a radical policy resembling ethnic cleansing.

The conflict has pitted Arab nomads and herders against settled black African farmers. The tensions have been worsened by droughts in the north and the slow creep of the desert southward.

For 20 years rebels in southern Sudan have sought to topple the Arab-dominated government in the north. Two million people died in that larger conflict, and a peace agreement is considered near.

But since early 2003 two rebel groups in Darfur, the Sudan Liberation Army and the Justice and Equality Movement, initiated a separate rebellion, complaining that the region's people, especially the black Africans, were being marginalized.

Sudan's decades-old civil war was much about religion ? the north is mostly Muslim, the south animist and Christian. Darfur's conflict is over ethnicity and resources; it pits Muslim against Muslim.

The rebels here scored some early victories, and the government responded with a fury, angering countries that thought it was finally taking the country toward peace after decades of civil war.

The army has used helicopter gunships and old Russian-made Antonov planes loaded with bombs. But the Arab-African rivalry has long festered here, and the most ruthless weapon has been the mounted Janjaweed fighters, who know no rules of war.

The Janjaweed ride camels and horses and use automatic weapons against those they come across. They ride into villages en masse and shoot anyone in sight. As the militiamen torch and loot, the villagers grab what they can and run.

An empty village is an eerie place. There are no babies crying, no goats bleating, no women pounding grain into mush. The only sound comes from the wind as it whips over the huts that used to house families but now lie toppled and torched.

Today there are many such villages in the vast Darfur region. Eleven ghost villages line the main road just northwest of here. Each stands frozen, just as it was when it was overrun.

Some were cleared months ago. Others were attacked as recently as last week. In each it is clear that life came to a sudden halt. Beds are overturned, and pots lie on their sides. In front of one hut is a child's sandal, but no child anywhere.

Fatima Ishag Sulieman, 25, did not have time to get away. She was in bed when the Janjaweed moved in. Two men entered her hut. They hit her, then they raped her in front of her family.

"I screamed, and they ran away," she said in Arabic.
 

NumbersGuy

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Originally posted by: Czar
well there are 53 countries in the council which is ALOT in the light of there being around 190 countries in the UN, impossible to not get a few bad, realy realy bad apples in there im afraid

Very true, unfortunately