Who would win in a fight to the death?

[Leros]

A jaguar or a dolphin? Fight setting: wave pool.

 

[irishScott]

The dolphin would swim away and the jaguar would drown?

 

[Leros]

The dolphin would swim away and the jaguar would drown?

Jaguars are effective swimmers.
"The ambush may include leaping into water after prey, as a jaguar is quite capable of carrying a large kill while swimming; its strength is such that carcasses as large as a heifer can be hauled up a tree to avoid flood levels"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar

Also, keep in mind. The wave pool is fairly shallow so the dolphin will not be able to swim as deep as normal, so it will be fairly restricted.

 

[irishScott]

Jaguars are effective swimmers.
"The ambush may include leaping into water after prey, as a jaguar is quite capable of carrying a large kill while swimming; its strength is such that carcasses as large as a heifer can be hauled up a tree to avoid flood levels"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar

That's nice, but I doubt it could catch a dolphin, either in speed or depth.

 

[Zeze]

wtf is dolphin gonna do in a shallow wave pool? he just has his mouth.

jaguar got its deadly claw swipe.

 

[irishScott]

wtf is dolphin gonna do in a shallow wave pool? he just has his mouth.

jaguar got its deadly claw swipe.

Assuming neither is allowed to leave the pool, I assume the dolphin would swim around in circles until the jaguar got exhausted and drowned. Jaguars are not endurance hunters.

 

[Leros]

Assuming neither is allowed to leave the pool, I assume the dolphin would swim around in circles until the jaguar got exhausted and drowned. Jaguars are not endurance hunters.

Perhaps the jaguar would try to force the dolphin into the shallow part of the pool and beach it.

Also, the jaguar can swim the shallow part of the pool, stand up, and rest, out of the dolphin's reach. The dolphin doesn't need to rest as much, but its never out of the reach of the jaguar.

 

[mmntech]

Only one way to find out for sure. My neighbour has a pool and I don't like him very much. Who's gonna help me break into the zoo?

 

[Zeze]

Assuming neither is allowed to leave the pool, I assume the dolphin would swim around in circles until the jaguar got exhausted and drowned. Jaguars are not endurance hunters.

Jaguar is made to inflict damage- bite, swipe, etc..

Dolphins aren't sharks. They can't even tear flesh. They just swallow small fish.

 

[Sa7aN]

dolphin ramming the jaguar could break bones, also that tail is no joke

 

[irishScott]

Perhaps the jaguar would try to force the dolphin into the shallow part of the pool and beach it.

Also, the jaguar can swim the shallow part of the pool, stand up, and rest, out of the dolphin's reach. The dolphin doesn't need to rest as much, but its never out of the reach of the jaguar.

The jaguar would have to be able to outmaneuver the dolphin. Unless we're talking a really small or weirdly shaped pool, that isn't happening.

The jaguar can't stand up forever. The dolphin could stay in the deep end and rest just fine (how do you think they sleep without drowning in the ocean?) in a heightened state of alertness. They don't sleep like land mammals, half of their brain is always conscious.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/zoology/mammals/question643.htm

 

[Leros]

The jaguar would have to be able to outmaneuver the dolphin. Unless we're talking a really small or weirdly shaped pool, that isn't happening.

The jaguar can't stand up forever. The dolphin could stay in the deep end and rest just fine (how do you think they sleep without drowning in the ocean?) in a heightened state of alertness. They don't sleep like land mammals, half of their brain is always conscious.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/zoology/mammals/question643.htm

Wave pools have a dry area at the shallow end where the jaguar could go lay down and rest. Unless the dolphin drags itself out the water and kills the jaguar before it wakes up, the jaguar would be 100% safe.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Dolphins supposedly kill sharks when they need to somehow. I'd still bet in the jaguar though.

 

[irishScott]

Dolphins supposedly kill sharks when they need to somehow. I'd still bet in the jaguar though.

They do that by ganging up on them and ramming the shark to death. Ditto with killer whales sometimes. You'll never see a dolphin go 1v1 with a shark.

 

[Newbian]

They would team up and fight crime.

The jaguar would chase them into water and let the dolphin finish them off.

I would call the tv show "Kitty and Tuna".

 

[Leros]

Here's how I see it going down.

- jaguar retreats to the dry end of the pool, out of reach of the dolphin
- dolphin retreats the deep end of the pool, out of reach of the jaguar
- so, we start out with a statemate
- the dolphin can't venture out onto land, so the jaguar will have to make the first move
- the jaguar will walk out into the very shallow water, attempting to draw the dolphin in. If the dolphin is drawn in, the jaguar has the clear advantage and will slash the dolphin to death.
- If the dolphin doesn't get drawn in, the jaguar will have swim out into deeper water. At this point, the dolphin and jaguar will have to battle. The dolphin will body slam the jaguar and try to drown it. The jaguar will fight back by clawing at the dolphin.
- Both animals take on serious injuries
- The jaguar will tire much quicker than the dolphin and the be too tired to fight back. The dolphin will then be able to drown the jaguar.

 

[lxskllr]

Alky

 

[RossMAN]

Alky

With or without M3?

 

[lxskllr]

With or without M3?

Without. He doesn't need a M3 to do the dolphin's mom.

 

[RossMAN]

Without. He doesn't need a M3 to do the dolphin's mom.

Don't forget about the abundance of jellyfish, bro.

 

[2timer]

Here's how I see it going down.

- jaguar retreats to the dry end of the pool, out of reach of the dolphin
- dolphin retreats the deep end of the pool, out of reach of the jaguar
- so, we start out with a statemate
- the dolphin can't venture out onto land, so the jaguar will have to make the first move
- the jaguar will walk out into the very shallow water, attempting to draw the dolphin in. If the dolphin is drawn in, the jaguar has the clear advantage and will slash the dolphin to death.
- If the dolphin doesn't get drawn in, the jaguar will have swim out into deeper water. At this point, the dolphin and jaguar will have to battle. The dolphin will body slam the jaguar and try to drown it. The jaguar will fight back by clawing at the dolphin.
- Both animals take on serious injuries
- The jaguar will tire much quicker than the dolphin and the be too tired to fight back. The dolphin will then be able to drown the jaguar.

To me, if the jaguar retreats, he loses. Any fight that is judged on objective criteria gives victory to the aggressor. If the jaguar has to run away from the fight, he is the loser.

 

[Leros]

It's a fight to the death. The only thing that matters is who dies first.

Assuming they have bloodlust and immediately start fighting, you short circuit the first part and jump right into the water battle. Same outcome. Dolphin wins.

 

[Schmide]

Depends on the Dolphin!

PS a Orca is actually a dolphin.

Regardless. If you're talking about a Bottlenose Dolphin, Dolphin hands down.

A Dophin can take a shark bite and heal

http://sites.bu.edu/ombs/2011/07/25/dolphins-prove-themselves-yet-again/

Their skin is 3 layers including a 1-2 inch blubber under layer and a outer layer that sheds (repairs itself) every 4 hours or so. Doesn't bleed out either.

Size - Dolphins can weight up to 500kg (1100lbs), a 90kg (200lb) Jaguar doesn't have a chance.

 

[2timer]

It's a fight to the death. The only thing that matters is who dies first.

Assuming they have bloodlust and immediately start fighting, you short circuit the first part and jump right into the water battle. Same outcome. Dolphin wins.

Aha, I see. Missed that part.

In that case, I would also hand the victory to the dolphin. I would see the dolphin thrashing and doing a lot of spinning and churning in the water. The jaguar is going to be inhaling water and that would interfere with it's aerobic ability.

The dolphin doesn't really have any great weapons to damage the jaguar on it's own. Basically like you said, the jaguar is going to lose because it will simply lose energy and be unable to move or resist, at which point the dolphin can drown it.

The jaguar also can't really bite the dolphin if you think about it. That would mean it has to put it's nostrils in the water. So I'm thinking the dolphin wins it.

 

[Karl Agathon]

A jaguar or a dolphin? Fight setting: wave pool.

LMAO @ it taking place in a wave pool. From what I understand a Jag is a very decent swimmer. Obviously very powerful too. That being said, the Dolphin could easly outswim a jag. Speed in the water wouldn't even be close. I guess eventually if the jag gets its paws/mouth on the dolphin, its game over?

A little OT but your post reminds of a comic book character verses forum. Superman vs Darkseid on an empty planet with bloodlust on :awe: LOL