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Who will Kamala pick as VP?

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sdifox said:
Lies! No one's freezer is that empty/clean.
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My old one died in the heatwave 3-4 weeks ago. Fucking freon leak and everything smells like nail polish. No salvaging it! Had to throw out the food too.

This new one was delivered 2 weeks ago.. I haven't even filled it up yet! Replaced a 10 cubic foot one with a 18 cubic foot one so will be a while till it fills up!

I do like it can hold 4 gallons of milk and 3 2liter bottles of soda in the door alone though! So lots of room for milkshakes and water!
 
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Moonbeam said:
Not as different as it would have been if the Supreme Court hadn't elected George Bush instead of Gore who the majority in Florida wanted.
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Maybe, but not taking anything away from the lives lost in the Gulf War on both sides, I would argue that Trump and the MAGA movement has caused more long lasting damage internally to our country than Bush.

Edit: not to mention the thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands) of unnecessary Covid deaths incurred due to Trump's mishandling and politicizing the epidemic.
 
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People blaming Biden (and by extension Harris) for the border crisis when GOP Congresses have punted on the issue of changing the law 3+ times is so fucking exhausting.

Biden’s response has been hamstrung because the Trump executive orders that some of the policies are based on were eventually thrown out by the courts. So you’re left with a patchwork of EOs and selective enforcement of the law to best allocate the resources available.
 
The Border Patrol has virtually unlimited resources at its disposal. The agents have been on a four year job action since Trump lost in 2020. Again, it’s an agency with a broken culture and that needs a top to bottom cleaning.
 
IronWing said:
The Border Patrol has virtually unlimited resources at its disposal. The agents have been on a four year job action since Trump lost in 2020. Again, it’s an agency with a broken culture and that needs a top to bottom cleaning.
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We definitely don't need more border patrollers.

- We need vastly more border immigration judges to get through asylum claims in days or at most a few weeks, rather than the 4 year backlog it currently takes.
- And a far more robust system to track and remove visa overstays (somewhere upwards of 1,000,000 per year)
 
The border issue is why, so far, I like the Kelly pick as VP ...

I hope the Harris campaign realizes this is probably the biggest issue she needs to overcome and picks Kelly as someone who can speak on this topic first-hand and counter Trump and Vance’s bullshit on it.

It could even be part of the campaign messaging: “The border IS an issue, but instead of continuing to lie about it, politicize it and vote down legislation to help fix it like Trump and Republicans have done, the Harris-Kelly administration will actually address it.”

Turn the Harris campaign’s biggest weakness into an actual strength by having Kelly hit the trail and talk about the border and what Republicans did by sinking the bipartisan border bill. Have Kelly neutralize Trump’s and Vance’s attacks by boldly talking about the border from the perspective of a border state resident.

Let the running mate show that Democrats aren’t running from this issue, aren’t trying to make decisions about it from afar, and will actually address it in a humane way. Then let Harris be free to talk about other stuff like the economy, choice, Trumps lies, criminality, how unfit to serve he is etc.
 
allisolm said:
If you are putting bottles of soda in the freezer you're in for a BIG surprise. Just sayin'. 😉

Sorry. Don't mean to derail. 🙁
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Not soda bottles in the freezer but in fridge down below that. I have a top freezer!

However there are emergencies at times and if you want one to get cold in a hurry.. put one in for 50 minutes.. it's just before the freezing point. If you go past that.. volcano explosion time!
 
Zorba said:
He should have issued an order to build a massive amount of multi family housing near public transportation.
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Hopefully the next governor is more aggressive on housing because the legislature has had to do all the heavy lifting. I want a CEQA exemption for urban infill developments and a state permitting office to service projects in laggard municipalities.
 
Dave_5k said:
We definitely don't need more border patrollers.

- We need vastly more border immigration judges to get through asylum claims in days or at most a few weeks, rather than the 4 year backlog it currently takes.
- And a far more robust system to track and remove visa overstays (somewhere upwards of 1,000,000 per year)
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We also just need to simplify the process to immigrate to the US. The backlog, confusing forms, and overall time it takes is absolutely ridiculous, based on stories from people I know or I've read about.

We attract all sorts of top talent from other countries, but then make it extremely difficult and drawn out for them to stay. Or US citizens that marry someone else - getting the permissions for their partners is onerous.

Our country has plenty of room, and with unemployment so low, we could probably stand to have more people come in to keep feeding the economic growth and enriching our communities with new cultures.
 
Dave_5k said:
We definitely don't need more border patrollers.

- We need vastly more border immigration judges to get through asylum claims in days or at most a few weeks, rather than the 4 year backlog it currently takes.
- And a far more robust system to track and remove visa overstays (somewhere upwards of 1,000,000 per year)
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That doesn’t fit in a 3 second sound bite. Too difficult for folks to understand
 
Brainonska511 said:
We also just need to simplify the process to immigrate to the US. The backlog, confusing forms, and overall time it takes is absolutely ridiculous, based on stories from people I know or I've read about.

We attract all sorts of top talent from other countries, but then make it extremely difficult and drawn out for them to stay. Or US citizens that marry someone else - getting the permissions for their partners is onerous.

Our country has plenty of room, and with unemployment so low, we could probably stand to have more people come in to keep feeding the economic growth and enriching our communities with new cultures.
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Not to mention the big lament over "depopulation" that I've heard from some righties. Migrants seem like a kill two birds with one stone fix!

But don't forget, there's a "right" kind of population and "wrong" one--those migrants aren't exactly ready for roles on Leave it to Beaver. If we had a border with Norway, sure it would be "c'mon in, folks!"

To your other point, it's been a couple decades since I went through extended dealings with the INS and yes--it's multi-year torture and it ain't cheap. INS makes dealing with the DMV or TSA seem like you have a personal concierge to make you happy. It was Joe vs the Volcano's office and everyone there seemed both miserable and more than willing to extend that misery to you. I saw security guards laughing at crying applicants when they forgot one of the fucking many forms, too bad come back and wait in line tomorrow for hours. The place sucked. The process of immigrating does take years and it's all by design I reckon--weed out as many people as possible just by making the whole thing a gauntlet.

It cracks me up when I hear mouth-breathers yelling about rounding up every undocumented worker--you sure about that? Georgia threatened it years ago and backed down in a hurry. Just be ready to accept the other side of what you are asking for to go with whatever satisfaction giving the boot to people working under the table gives you. But then, they don't even accept that these people are mostly here working their asses off. My wife's sister came here and worked 7 days a week, hey stop making me look bad! The rubes think the migrants are just set up on welfare living off the gov, brought in to somehow vote for Democrats out of gratitude...I mean, really, that's your conspiracy story?
 
ondma said:
Yea, the electoral college needs to go. I think Kamala should win the popular vote, but winning the electoral college is much more problematic. Just such an outdated and archaic institution. Hell, without the electoral college, Hillary would have won in 2016, and perhaps Trump would have slunk back into the hole he came out of and not been heard from again. Can you imagine how different the country would be?
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If it were true popular vote we probably wouldn’t have even had Hillary.
 
Brainonska511 said:
Our country has plenty of room, and with unemployment so low, we could probably stand to have more people come in to keep feeding the economic growth and enriching our communities with new cultures.
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I think we have to be careful here as we can't always be ever optimists.

Some come here from very right wing authoritarian regimes where might makes right and then they end up wanting the same thing here.
 
Indus said:
I think we have to be careful here as we can't always be ever optimists.

Some come here from very right wing authoritarian regimes where might makes right and then they end up wanting the same thing here.
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That sounds like a load of bupkis to me. Plenty of people already here for generations seem to love authoritarian ideas.

And I didn't say it should be completely open borders. Just this current Kafkaesque system is counterproductive and stupid.
 
Brainonska511 said:
That sounds like a load of bupkis to me. Plenty of people already here for generations seem to love authoritarian ideas.

And I didn't say it should be completely open borders. Just this current Kafkaesque system is counterproductive and stupid.
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It's bupkis like virtually all of his political hot takes. If I have and love X in my native country, why would I bother going to the U.S. if it doesn't already have X?

Furthermore, the U.S. has a 200 year history of assimilating its immigrants. Even if it doesn't happen to the first generation, it soon happens with their U.S.-born children.

I'm sure there are some immigrants who want DJT to be like Xi, which pales in comparison to the approx. 50M MAGA voters cultists.
 
Brainonska511 said:
That sounds like a load of bupkis to me. Plenty of people already here for generations seem to love authoritarian ideas.
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And you wanna feed em more?

Brainonska511 said:
And I didn't say it should be completely open borders. Just this current Kafkaesque system is counterproductive and stupid.
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Yeah that was my point.. vet them.

Otherwise you get psychotic families like the Trumps, Habbas, D'Souza's, Vivek (whatever his last name is)
 
Indus said:
And you wanna feed em more?
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Most immigrants are working to support themselves and their families. Unless you're suggesting some sort of lazy immigrant trope. Maybe that's just what your racist rightwing neighbors think.
Indus said:
Yeah that was my point.. vet them.

Otherwise you get psychotic families like the Trumps, Habbas, D'Souza's, Vivek (whatever his last name is)
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Our immigration system does vet people.
 
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